Dwight Pentecost claims Gentiles will be Israel's servants during Millennium

[Muzungu256]

Zech 14:16 ¶ And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD’S house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

but new testament says animal sacrifices are done for in hebrews......... so what now?

 

[notuptome]

but new testament says animal sacrifices are done for in hebrews......... so what now?

It will be for a memorial not a sacrifice for sin. Purely symbolic sacrifice in the millennium where there is no death.

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Roger

 

[Bogadile]

It will be for a memorial not a sacrifice for sin. Purely symbolic sacrifice in the millennium where there is no death.

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Roger

I have been told this as well, however it quickly evaporates as an explanation due to Ezekiel specifically mentioning sin offerings.

Such offerings would seem meaningless as a "reminder" for sins or something like that. If it were a "reminder" of sins, we should be doing that right now, yet we do not.

The best explanation I have heard (it is heretical, but logical) is that when Jesus Christ is on the earth as a King, people can no longer believe in Him because faith is believing in things not seen, and all would see Jesus when He is on the earth. (Hebrews 11:1)

I have heard many explanations, each more or less heretical, the key issue here is that Jesus let us know that the temple will be destroyed, and the New Testament is clear that the need for sacrifices to cover sins is no longer required, because Jesus paid it all.

I am still waiting for some unknown explanation that fits it all together, as I have seen some here just throw away those verses in the OT by saying the New has replaced the Old, which certainly is the case (hebrews 8:13) but I still believe that in some way or fashion, all Scriptures must be fulfilled.

 

[Bogadile]

tthen answer matthew 25:46?????? some eternal condemnation some eternal life, no middle of the road. no flesh humans in a half-way condition u see??? where do u get that from. not from the new testament u see.

Matthew 25:46 is certainly one of the key texts for amillennialism.

However, where people get the "half-way condition" from is Isaiah 65:17-25

 

[Muzungu256]

It will be for a memorial not a sacrifice for sin. Purely symbolic sacrifice in the millennium where there is no death.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

wait u say there is no death in the millennium????? so all there have eternal life? how can they rebel then.... they lose even their eternal life??? whaaat

and if they are in the flesh u see... u still gotta deal with matt 25:46. where is the half-way condition u see

 

[notuptome]

wait u say there is no death in the millennium????? so all there have eternal life? how can they rebel then.... they lose even their eternal life??? whaaat

and if they are in the flesh u see... u still gotta deal with matt 25:46. where is the half-way condition u see

That is not what I said. I said people will not die in the millennium. Many will die in the rebellion at the end of the millennium when satan is released from the bottomless pit and one last time deceives men who hate the rule of Christ.

Isaiah 11:9

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Muzungu256]

That is not what I said. I said people will not die in the millennium. Many will die in the rebellion at the end of the millennium when satan is released from the bottomless pit and one last time deceives men who hate the rule of Christ.

Isaiah 11:9

For the cause of Christ
Roger

ok. what about matthew 25:46 that says they gain eternal life at the second coming?????? why do they die at the rebellion? contradiction

 

[notuptome]

I have been told this as well, however it quickly evaporates as an explanation due to Ezekiel specifically mentioning sin offerings.

Such offerings would seem meaningless as a "reminder" for sins or something like that. If it were a "reminder" of sins, we should be doing that right now, yet we do not.

The best explanation I have heard (it is heretical, but logical) is that when Jesus Christ is on the earth as a King, people can no longer believe in Him because faith is believing in things not seen, and all would see Jesus when He is on the earth. (Hebrews 11:1)

I have heard many explanations, each more or less heretical, the key issue here is that Jesus let us know that the temple will be destroyed, and the New Testament is clear that the need for sacrifices to cover sins is no longer required, because Jesus paid it all.

I am still waiting for some unknown explanation that fits it all together, as I have seen some here just throw away those verses in the OT by saying the New has replaced the Old, which certainly is the case (hebrews 8:13) but I still believe that in some way or fashion, all Scriptures must be fulfilled.

The people living on the earth during the millennial reign will still have their old nature. They will not have the new nature given to those who are born again. They will have the Living Word of God before them but they will still be required to choose to receive Him as their Savior. Like Cain they will still reject the perfect rule and reign of Christ for self rule when prompted by Satan.

Imagine living on the earth and having the Son of God speak and teach the word of God to you every day for a thousand years. As a Christian we will be there as well and I'm looking forward to having Jesus expound the word of God to me. Going through the bible a thousand time in a thousand years is exciting.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

ok. what about matthew 25:46 that says they gain eternal life at the second coming?????? why do they die at the rebellion? contradiction

No contradiction when you put the passage into context. When are men judged and cast into the lake of fire? Not during the millennium reign.

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Roger

 

[Muzungu256]

No contradiction when you put the passage into context. When are men judged and cast into the lake of fire? Not during the millennium reign.

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Roger

it says they gain etenral life and this is the second coming in matthew 25:46 yes?

 

[Nehemiah6]

tthen answer matthew 25:46?????? some eternal condemnation some eternal life, no middle of the road. no flesh humans in a half-way condition u see??? where do u get that from. not from the new testament u see.

What does Matthew 25:46 have to do with this? Please note: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

So after this judgment of the nations, some will go into eternal life, others into eternal damnation.

i posted new testament quotes from Jesus u guys always post old testament stuff like roger posted zechariah 14 but new testament says animal sacrifices are over!!!!!

Well the Bible is ONE BOOK which means that we must take everything that is written and then arrive at our doctrine. So the ones who ignore the Old Testament fail to learn that God has an eternal plan for redeemed and restored Israel. Therefore your first priority at this time (and for others who are in the same boat) is to start a serious study of all the prophets from Isaiah to Malachi. After that you can comment on the matter of a future kingdom of Israel.

 

[notuptome]

it says they gain etenral life and this is the second coming in matthew 25:46 yes?

This is at the end of the tribulation. Those who are saved during tribulation are given eternal life. Those who were against Christ are cast into condemnation. Those who are of Israel are given the kingdom promised to them. Matt 25:34.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Muzungu256]

What does Matthew 25:46 have to do with this? Please note: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

So after this judgment of the nations, some will go into eternal life, others into eternal damnation.

im starting to believe that u guys have no answer to matthew 25:46........ so some go to eternal damnation, some to eternal life........ now who goes to the millennial kingdom in the flesh u see???? nobody.

 

[Muzungu256]

This is at the end of the tribulation. Those who are saved during tribulation are given eternal life. Those who were against Christ are cast into condemnation. Those who are of Israel are given the kingdom promised to them. Matt 25:34.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

there is only two groups sheeps and goats... eternal damnation for goats and eternal life for sheep......
this is purely made up... "those who are of israel" are in either group, either they believed on Jesus and are sheep, or didnt believe and are goats......

 

[notuptome]

there is only two groups sheeps and goats... eternal damnation for goats and eternal life for sheep......
this is purely made up... "those who are of israel" are in either group, either they believed on Jesus and are sheep, or didnt believe and are goats......

Did you actually read verse 34? To whom did God promise a kingdom? Not to the Gentiles. Not to the church.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Muzungu256]

Did you actually read verse 34? To whom did God promise a kingdom? Not to the Gentiles. Not to the church.

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Roger

ive read the entire ting and be wondering u see... u have three groups, israel, sheep and goats.
when there are only two groups sheep and goats...... israel belongs to either one of those, some good some bad.

 

[SovereignGrace]

That hashtag is offensive and anti-semitic and should be removed. Im sorry SG,thats beyond the pale.Romans says the Jews are loved because of the patriarchs,and we Gentiles are not to be proud and boastful. When I see the disdain for the Jewish people by some here,it grieves me and worries me. But that hashtag is not the heart of God SG.

No, it's not anti-Semitic. But this special attention Christ-denying Jews are getting is absurd. The true Jews of God are those who are circumcised in their hearts by the Spirit, not the foreskin. Romans 2 and Galatians 4 can not be any clearer.

Jews should be loved and respected, but not given special treatment.

 

[davida]

Yes, it is anti semitic and has been reported

 

[notuptome]

ive read the entire ting and be wondering u see... u have three groups, israel, sheep and goats.
when there are only two groups sheep and goats...... israel belongs to either one of those, some good some bad.

To whom did Jehovah God promise a kingdom? Who is looking for that kingdom even today?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[davida]

No, it's not anti-Semitic. But this special attention Christ-denying Jews are getting is absurd. The true Jews of God are those who are circumcised in their hearts by the Spirit, not the foreskin. Romans 2 and Galatians 4 can not be any clearer.

Jews should be loved and respected, but not given special treatment.

I know, some of your best friends are Jewish.