Dwight Pentecost claims Gentiles will be Israel's servants during Millennium

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MarcR

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new testament doesn't mention another age after church age except for eternity!!!!!!!!

Matthew 12:32
"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

and look what the parallel verse to this says about the age to come and its duration u see:

Mark 3:28-29
"Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;
but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin "--



it seems final in Matthew 25:46 too, only two options u see?

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

seems pretty clear, i could be wrong but how can u fit mortals in a 1000 year earthly reign to matthew 25:46 i wanna know..... i will believe it if its demonstrated
Between the church age and Eternity is the Millennium.The only Scripture that specifically speaks about the millennium, to the best of my knowledge, is Zec 14.
 
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Yes, it is anti semitic and has been reported
snitching on a christian forum on brother named SovereignGrace?????? shame on u..... snitching in itself is shameful in my world.
 
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Between the church age and Eternity is the Millennium.The only Scripture that specifically speaks about the millennium, to the best of my knowledge, is Zec 14.
u would think Jesus Paul or Peter would have mentioned this over and over.

Matthew 12:32
"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

and look what the parallel verse to this says about the age to come and its duration u see:

Mark 3:28-29
"Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;
but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an
eternal sin "--
 

MarcR

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u would think Jesus Paul or Peter would have mentioned this over and over.

Matthew 12:32
"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

and look what the parallel verse to this says about the age to come and its duration u see:

Mark 3:28-29
"Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;
but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an
eternal sin "--
I honestly don't see how your response relates to my post, that you cited. please explain.
 

MarcR

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You cited the source of Dwight Pentecost's comments; but I would like to see the context and I don't have a Kindle reader.
 

Locutus

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Let's have a look at Zechariah:

Zec 14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

So where do we find the fulfillment of this prophecy? And what is this "living waters"?

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow
rivers of living water.

John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for
the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

In the above we have identified what the living waters are - there is only on source of the living water.

Acts 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

In the above we see when the living waters were given and which would flow out of the apostles bellies during their ministry.

On to the next:

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against
Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

There is no need to interpret the above in a wooden literal sense:

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels.

In Hebrews above we have the people of the nations going up "year to year" to worship the King in the heavenly Jerusalem not a pile of rocks on dirt in the middle.










 

davida

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snitching on a christian forum on brother named SovereignGrace?????? shame on u..... snitching in itself is shameful in my world.
Our perceptions of what is shameful differ, brother.
 
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UnderGrace

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Thank you for explaining, I was not sure what you meant by it, I understand better now :)

No, it's not anti-Semitic. But this special attention Christ-denying Jews are getting is absurd. The true Jews of God are those who are circumcised in their hearts by the Spirit, not the foreskin. Romans 2 and Galatians 4 can not be any clearer.

Jews should be loved and respected, but not given special treatment.
 

mcubed

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Leave it to a "genital" to try to create Jew hatred and separation. This is just STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Pretty sure the bible states that there is neither JEW nor Gentile in Christ, but a new creation and the two have become ONE........the rest is pure speculation......erroneous at best I might add!
 

Blain

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Hmm... sounds to me like this man is one those teachers who is not in any way qualified to be a teacher. I am half Jewish not full blood even so according this man the gentile will be my servant? As if! I myself treasure the role of a loving humble servant I find far more honor in serving others than being served.

Blood does not entitle one to be better than anyone else and the sooner people understand this the better, whether your Jew or gentile good or bad black or white young or old in the kings eyes we are all loved and treasured equally he only sees his beloved children and the arrogance to say that gentiles will serve the Jews is on a stupendous scale
 

tourist

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According to Revelation the Gentiles will be reigning with Jesus during the millennium and not Israel's servants.
 

Blain

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Good, now go read your Bible! ;) :p :D
Reading it is great but have you tried listening to it with your eyes closed? It's amazing how you can perceive things without relying on your sight:D
 

OneFaith

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You are obviously speaking of the Church Age, and during the Church Age -- and within the Church -- there is absolutely no distinction between Jews and Gentiles.

But what about after the Church Age and the Rapture of the Church? Have you studied the prophets and seen what God has revealed concerning a redeemed and restored Israel on earth for eternity? If not why not? Are the writings of the prophets not the Word of God? And is there no significance to the second coming of Christ and its relationship to Israel and the Jews?

The real issue is that pastors and teachers in many churches have failed to bring out the difference between the Church Age and the future of the earth after Christ has established the Kingdom of God on earth. Everything is simply "spiritualized" since that is the easy way out.
When Christ comes back He's not stepping foot on this earth, God's people will rise to meet Him in the air. Then this earth will be destroyed (the moon will turn to blood, the sun will not shine its light, the clouds will be rolled up as a scroll). Therefore Christ will not being reigning with Israelites on the earth for all eternity (physically). All the prophesies concerning Israelites after the cross will be fulfilled spiritually, not physically.

It is not the 'easy way out' of a debate, it's simply the truth.
 
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When Christ comes back He's not stepping foot on this earth, God's people will rise to meet Him in the air. Then this earth will be destroyed (the moon will turn to blood, the sun will not shine its light, the clouds will be rolled up as a scroll). Therefore Christ will not being reigning with Israelites on the earth for all eternity (physically). All the prophesies concerning Israelites after the cross will be fulfilled spiritually, not physically.

It is not the 'easy way out' of a debate, it's simply the truth.
sounds great and matches with the NT u see. how do u deal with revelation and ot passages tho? verses?
 
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Reading it is great but have you tried listening to it with your eyes closed? It's amazing how you can perceive things without relying on your sight:D
You mean like listening to it audibly? Yes, I've done that, then my eyes closed. It usually ends with the sound of my alarm clock going off, lol! :D
 

Blain

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You mean like listening to it audibly? Yes, I've done that, then my eyes closed. It usually ends with the sound of my alarm clock going off, lol! :D
Even so not a bad way to catch some zzz's