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louis

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Approaching the end of the age when the current world administrations under Satan are experiencing the worst of times (Matthew 24:21), we see that many false Christs will then appear (Matthew 24:23-24). My question then is: Is the world going to care if anyone claims themselves to be God, even if they were to do some miracles as did Jesus?
The fact of the matter is that when the people of the earth are experiencing the worst of times, through famines, plagues, wars, etc. (Matthew 24:7), the only thing they are going to care about is someone who will have answers to terminate these horrible conditions.
I therefore suggest that the false Christs and false prophets who shall arise during these worst of times will be people who will claim to have the solution in resolving these matters, and will not be people claiming themselves to be God.

Even by definition, Christ which is synonymous with Messiah, refers to a leader or savior. Someone who saves the people from whatever bad is going on.
An example of this would be Hitler who during the great depression in Germany was a false Messiah/prophet to the German people.
It is therefore reasonable to assess that when things get worse than they were in depression era pre WWII Germany, that there will then be many more Hitler type false Messiah/prophets who shall rise to claim themselves having the solution to their problems.



Matthew 24:21 [FONT=&quot]For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.[/FONT]

23 [FONT=&quot]Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
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KelbyofGod

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That was a rather insightful post.
 
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That was a rather insightful post.
Yes, that was undoubtedly a very disturbing and confusing time for the 1st-Century Believers when all those "Jesus's" began showing up.
 

joaniemarie

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Delusion is a major factor in how the enemy gets his lies across to the human mind. In most cases the general public believes what they want to believe and the ones holding the strings are those who know the best way to show and package a lie and make things "look" appealing or ugly.

Politicians are so skillful at this as are those in the media., tv., commercials, movies., etc.... The Bible says that the lost are without a shepherd. People are like sheep who follow whoever and whatever they believe will take care of them. But His sheep hear His voice and follow only Him. But the world have no such inner compass (the Holy Spirit) and are at the mercy of the enemy of this world.

Observing the news these days is just a study in contradictions. Hollywood has been pushing immorality forever even in the 1930s. Don't tell anyone who to sleep with and when and how. Woman can sleep with hundreds of men and there is nothing wrong with that so says the TV and media. Don't tell a woman she can't have an abortion. Don't dictate to anyone how people should behave... Don't push morality on people....

Enter the Harvey Winstiens., for some reason after alll these years abuse gets focused on again and all of the sudden everyone who is anyone is appalled. Despite the fact everyone knew about abuse in hollywood all of the sudden everyone who is in the hollywood world is ashamed and shocked?

Then we can see child pornography all over since the time of Shirley Temple and then Brook Shields (another actress) who did actual kiddie porn in well known movies but today all of the sudden people are seeing "the light" for the very first time?.
Yet no one mentioned the shock at the time the movies were applauded and given awards. (except some Christians) Now the shock and disgust from everyone about it is all over the internet.

People are getting fed how and when to be shocked and how and when to put blinders on and ignore the obvious. The truth is hidden by the enemy it's so obvious in such a black and white way. 2 Cor.4:3-4

[SUP]3 [/SUP]And even if our [SUP][a][/SUP]gospel is veiled, it is veiled in them that [SUP][b][/SUP]perish: [SUP]4 [/SUP]in whom the god of this [SUP][c][/SUP]world hath blinded the [SUP][d][/SUP]minds of the unbelieving, [SUP][e][/SUP]that the [SUP][f][/SUP]light of the [SUP][g][/SUP]gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn upon them.

Many of us didn't live in the 1920s and 30s and 40s but it's been this way forever. The truth is hidden and people are led by feelings being stirred up by those smarter than they are who are used of the devil. It also brings to mind that he is the prince of the power of the air.

I'm very thankful for Christian owned media because the airwaves can be used for good when believers are involved. The Bible is getting out too more and more via the internet. The more Christians are involved in the world the more the salt, the more truth. I've heard it said when we see the evil out there it's evidence of how the devil is countering what God is doing in the world that is not obvious for everyone's eyes. The enemy always counters what God is doing on the earth.

So when we see these evil things going on., we can know our redemption draws close!!


 

NayborBear

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#6
Delusion is a major factor in how the enemy gets his lies across to the human mind. In most cases the general public believes what they want to believe and the ones holding the strings are those who know the best way to show and package a lie and make things "look" appealing or ugly.

Politicians are so skillful at this as are those in the media., tv., commercials, movies., etc.... The Bible says that the lost are without a shepherd. People are like sheep who follow whoever and whatever they believe will take care of them. But His sheep hear His voice and follow only Him. But the world have no such inner compass (the Holy Spirit) and are at the mercy of the enemy of this world.

Observing the news these days is just a study in contradictions. Hollywood has been pushing immorality forever even in the 1930s. Don't tell anyone who to sleep with and when and how. Woman can sleep with hundreds of men and there is nothing wrong with that so says the TV and media. Don't tell a woman she can't have an abortion. Don't dictate to anyone how people should behave... Don't push morality on people....

Enter the Harvey Winstiens., for some reason after alll these years abuse gets focused on again and all of the sudden everyone who is anyone is appalled. Despite the fact everyone knew about abuse in hollywood all of the sudden everyone who is in the hollywood world is ashamed and shocked?

Then we can see child pornography all over since the time of Shirley Temple and then Brook Shields (another actress) who did actual kiddie porn in well known movies but today all of the sudden people are seeing "the light" for the very first time?.
Yet no one mentioned the shock at the time the movies were applauded and given awards. (except some Christians) Now the shock and disgust from everyone about it is all over the internet.

People are getting fed how and when to be shocked and how and when to put blinders on and ignore the obvious. The truth is hidden by the enemy it's so obvious in such a black and white way. 2 Cor.4:3-4

[SUP]3 [/SUP]And even if our [SUP][a][/SUP]gospel is veiled, it is veiled in them that [SUP][b][/SUP]perish: [SUP]4 [/SUP]in whom the god of this [SUP][c][/SUP]world hath blinded the [SUP][d][/SUP]minds of the unbelieving, [SUP][e][/SUP]that the [SUP][f][/SUP]light of the [SUP][g][/SUP]gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn upon them.

Many of us didn't live in the 1920s and 30s and 40s but it's been this way forever. The truth is hidden and people are led by feelings being stirred up by those smarter than they are who are used of the devil. It also brings to mind that he is the prince of the power of the air.

I'm very thankful for Christian owned media because the airwaves can be used for good when believers are involved. The Bible is getting out too more and more via the internet. The more Christians are involved in the world the more the salt, the more truth. I've heard it said when we see the evil out there it's evidence of how the devil is countering what God is doing in the world that is not obvious for everyone's eyes. The enemy always counters what God is doing on the earth.

So when we see these evil things going on., we can know our redemption draws close!!


There are even those, who claim to be Jews, yet, are actually of, the "synagogue of satan", as well as others, not claiming to be jews at all, yet, get "labelled" as such, that say " Give me control over their money, and I won't care, WHAT god, or God, they worship!"
 

Nehemiah6

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#7
Approaching the end of the age when the current world administrations under Satan are experiencing the worst of times (Matthew 24:21), we see that many false Christs will then appear (Matthew 24:23-24). My question then is: Is the world going to care if anyone claims themselves to be God, even if they were to do some miracles as did Jesus?
The issue is not whether the world will care, but whether the world will be deceived and accept the ultimate false Christ -- the Antichrist -- as the "true" Christ and indeed God Himself?

There will not be just one miracles, but multiple "lying" signs, and wonders, and miracles, and given the universal presence of TV and the internet, all the inhabitants of the earth will see these miracles and be totally dazzled and enamored. The reason being that at that time God will send a "strong delusion" upon all men so that they will believe the lie. See 2 Thessalonians for details.
 

jb

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I therefore suggest that the false Christs and false prophets who shall arise during these worst of times will be people who will claim to have the solution in resolving these matters, and will not be people claiming themselves to be God.
That was a rather insightful post.
Not at all insightful, quite the reverse, for 2Thess 2v1-12 (with Rev 13, Matt 24v15, 24, Dan 8v24) clearly states that the man of sin will sit in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that he is God and along with the false prophet doing mightly lying signs, wonders and miracles which will deceive many!
 

louis

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Delusion is a major factor in how the enemy gets his lies across to the human mind. In most cases the general public believes what they want to believe and the ones holding the strings are those who know the best way to show and package a lie and make things "look" appealing or ugly.

Politicians are so skillful at this as are those in the media., tv., commercials, movies., etc.... The Bible says that the lost are without a shepherd. People are like sheep who follow whoever and whatever they believe will take care of them. But His sheep hear His voice and follow only Him. But the world have no such inner compass (the Holy Spirit) and are at the mercy of the enemy of this world.



I agree with your perspective on politicians.
 

louis

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The issue is not whether the world will care, but whether the world will be deceived and accept the ultimate false Christ -- the Antichrist -- as the "true" Christ and indeed God Himself?

There will not be just one miracles, but multiple "lying" signs, and wonders, and miracles, and given the universal presence of TV and the internet, all the inhabitants of the earth will see these miracles and be totally dazzled and enamored. The reason being that at that time God will send a "strong delusion" upon all men so that they will believe the lie. See 2 Thessalonians for details.
You are correct that there will be multiple signs and wonders by these false Messiahs and prophets, as that is what is stated in Matthew 24:24.
This then raises the question: why will there be a need for all these false Messiahs and prophets?
Answer: According to the data in Matthew 24:7 & 21 there will be many bad things going on throughout the entire world.
People will be looking to anyone who will be able to remedy all the bad that will be going on, and so this is when the many false Saviors and prophets of remedies appear (Matthew 24:23:24).
The greatest false one of which will of course be from the beast who shall rise from the sea (Revelation 13).

Matthew 24:7 [FONT=&quot]For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
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21 [FONT=&quot]For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

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[FONT=&quot]23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.[/FONT]
 

Adstar

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Approaching the end of the age when the current world administrations under Satan are experiencing the worst of times (Matthew 24:21), we see that many false Christs will then appear (Matthew 24:23-24). My question then is: Is the world going to care if anyone claims themselves to be God, even if they were to do some miracles as did Jesus?
The fact of the matter is that when the people of the earth are experiencing the worst of times, through famines, plagues, wars, etc. (Matthew 24:7), the only thing they are going to care about is someone who will have answers to terminate these horrible conditions.
I therefore suggest that the false Christs and false prophets who shall arise during these worst of times will be people who will claim to have the solution in resolving these matters, and will not be people claiming themselves to be God.

Even by definition, Christ which is synonymous with Messiah, refers to a leader or savior. Someone who saves the people from whatever bad is going on.
An example of this would be Hitler who during the great depression in Germany was a false Messiah/prophet to the German people.
It is therefore reasonable to assess that when things get worse than they were in depression era pre WWII Germany, that there will then be many more Hitler type false Messiah/prophets who shall rise to claim themselves having the solution to their problems.



Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
While most of the false Messiahs will not claim to be God.. I believe the Final Son of perdition the wicked one shall claim to be the returned Jesus Christ and will indeed claim to be God on earth.. That i believe will be the final great deception which will lead many to worship the image of the beast which is the image of a man whom i believe will be the son of perdition.. Below is some critical scriptures well worth taking in..

2 Thessalonians 2: KJV
1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, {2} That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. {3} Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; {4} Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. {5} Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? {6} And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. {7} For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. {8} And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: {9} Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, {10} And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: {12} That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
 

louis

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Not at all insightful, quite the reverse, for 2Thess 2v1-12 (with Rev 13, Matt 24v15, 24, Dan 8v24) clearly states that the man of sin will sit in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that he is God and along with the false prophet doing mightly lying signs, wonders and miracles which will deceive many!
This is a very complicated topic and I will try to explain the basics. I for a very long time was of the same opinion as the majority who believed in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem being where the Antichrist would sit where he should not.
About two years ago I noticed certain scriptures (which I had read many times before), which state that the Lord does not dwell in buildings made by man (Acts 7:48; 17:48), and that the Lords temple is in the people (1 Corinthians 3:16-17; 6:19; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Ephesians 2:21). Through these scriptures I understood that the Antichrist sitting in a stone building in Jerusalem was not Gods temple where he should not sit.
Through these scriptures I also understood that when 2 Thessalonians 2:4 describes the Antichrist sitting in the temple of God where he should not, that this scripture to be referring the Antichrist sitting in the hearts of the people where he should not.

The Antichrist is the mouth speaking great things who propagates the beasts system, contending with and wearing out the saints over 42 months (Daniel 7:8,20-21,25; Revelation 13:5-7), all the while sitting in the hearts of the saints.

Acts 7:48 [FONT=&quot]Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,

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[FONT=&quot]17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in [/FONT]temples made with hands;

1 Corinthians 3:16 [FONT=&quot]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.[/FONT]
6:19 [FONT=&quot]What? know ye not that your body is the [/FONT]temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

2 Corinthians 6:16 [FONT=&quot]And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

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Ephesians 2:21 [FONT=&quot]In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy [/FONT]temple in the Lord:

2 Thessalonians 2:4 [FONT=&quot]Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the [/FONT]temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Daniel 7:8 [FONT=&quot]I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.[/FONT]
20 [FONT=&quot]And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;[/FONT]
25 [FONT=&quot]And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.[/FONT]

Revelation 13:5 [FONT=&quot]And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.[/FONT]
 

louis

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While most of the false Messiahs will not claim to be God.. I believe the Final Son of perdition the wicked one shall claim to be the returned Jesus Christ and will indeed claim to be God on earth.. That i believe will be the final great deception which will lead many to worship the image of the beast which is the image of a man whom i believe will be the son of perdition.. Below is some critical scriptures well worth taking in..

2 Thessalonians 2: KJV
1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, {2} That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. {3} Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; {4} Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. {5} Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? {6} And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. {7} For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. {8} And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: {9} Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, {10} And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: {12} That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
The man of sin, who is the Antichrist will sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God (2 Thess 2:4). What does this mean?
We are the temple of God; not a stone building.
God is love (1 John 4:8 & 16).
The Antichrist will show himself as love within the temple of God in us.
The whole world will worship (love fervently) the beasts system (Revelation 13:4).
And why will the world fervently adore the beasts system?
Answer: his system will have brought about a temporary hiatus to all the bad that will have been going on throughout the world. Not the saints, or anyone will be able to contend/war (Rev 13:4) with the actual relief from all the bad the beasts system will temporarily bring in for a period of 42 months, after which his system will commence to implode (Daniel 7:26).

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.


Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Daniel 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
 
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Approaching the end of the age when the current world administrations under Satan are experiencing the worst of times (Matthew 24:21), we see that many false Christs will then appear (Matthew 24:23-24). My question then is: Is the world going to care if anyone claims themselves to be God, even if they were to do some miracles as did Jesus?
The fact of the matter is that when the people of the earth are experiencing the worst of times, through famines, plagues, wars, etc. (Matthew 24:7), the only thing they are going to care about is someone who will have answers to terminate these horrible conditions.
I therefore suggest that the false Christs and false prophets who shall arise during these worst of times will be people who will claim to have the solution in resolving these matters, and will not be people claiming themselves to be God.

Even by definition, Christ which is synonymous with Messiah, refers to a leader or savior. Someone who saves the people from whatever bad is going on.
An example of this would be Hitler who during the great depression in Germany was a false Messiah/prophet to the German people.
It is therefore reasonable to assess that when things get worse than they were in depression era pre WWII Germany, that there will then be many more Hitler type false Messiah/prophets who shall rise to claim themselves having the solution to their problems.



Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
How does that happen? One of those things that always befuddle me. You're 62 years old, therefore, you've had enough years to learn a bit of history and study something of God, and yet you still think this is the worst of times? I mean, it is so bad you haven't even noticed we're not in a depression, not even a recession. Since you think that in itself is a "fact," might I make a suggestion? Get out of whatever church you're learning this stuff from and then find a church that preaches Christ instead of your version of End Times fortune telling.
 

louis

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How does that happen? One of those things that always befuddle me. You're 62 years old, therefore, you've had enough years to learn a bit of history and study something of God, and yet you still think this is the worst of times? I mean, it is so bad you haven't even noticed we're not in a depression, not even a recession. Since you think that in itself is a "fact," might I make a suggestion? Get out of whatever church you're learning this stuff from and then find a church that preaches Christ instead of your version of End Times fortune telling.
You are alluding that the worst of times in Matthew 24 do not happen.
While I agree that we are not at the worst of times yet, it nevertheless is apparent to me that we are at the beginning of sorrows where wars, pestilences, famines, and earthquakes are occurring have commenced.

Matthew 24:7 [FONT=&quot]For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.[/FONT]
 

jb

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This is a very complicated topic...
It's not complicated at all!

You've made it complicated by mangling last day prophetic truth!
 

KelbyofGod

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These forums are an interesting place to post. There can be so many ideas to potentially address, it takes a minute to decide where to start.

I said it's an insightful post because whenever there is catastrophe, chaos, or challenge, it seems people start looking for a solid leader to bring them away from the danger. That would create an opening for someone wanting control. Anyone showing ability to deal with the challenge would be a natural choice of the people to become their ruler. Consider how the people responded to Jesus' ability to feed them in the wilderness... they wanted to make him king right there on the spot.
 

KelbyofGod

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I would also suggest that it's not going to be something so easy to navigate.

Remember, at the same time this stuff is going on,"they that do know their God shall be strong and do exploits" according to Daniel. That means there will be lying wonders and miracles "after the working of Satan" at the same time God is working greatly on behalf of his people.
 

louis

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It's not complicated at all!

You've made it complicated by mangling last day prophetic truth!
Very uninsightful response, without any elaboration.
 

louis

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These forums are an interesting place to post. There can be so many ideas to potentially address, it takes a minute to decide where to start.

I said it's an insightful post because whenever there is catastrophe, chaos, or challenge, it seems people start looking for a solid leader to bring them away from the danger. That would create an opening for someone wanting control. Anyone showing ability to deal with the challenge would be a natural choice of the people to become their ruler. Consider how the people responded to Jesus' ability to feed them in the wilderness... they wanted to make him king right there on the spot.
Good, sound logical reasoning, backed by historical events.