FALSE PROPHETS IN THE LAST DAY.

[Scotth1960]

THERE WILL BE MANY FALSE PROPHETS IN THE LAST DAYS.

Dear Wakeup,
Harold Camping. "Last days" false prophet currently popular with some self-deceived people.
1. False. September 4, 1994.
2. False. May 21, 2011.
3. False again? Wait for October 21, 2011.
That will be false prophecy number 3 for Harold Camping. He keeps trying to know "the day and the hour" of Christ's return, when not even the Son of Man, Christ, knows this, but only God the Father knows this.
When a man prophesies falsely even once, Deuteronomy says we are not to fear that man. So Camping is a multiple false prophesier and keeps on going into delusions while the LORD tarries. We do not know! Christ may indeed come in our lifetime, but it is not certain either that He will, or that He will not. This is left for God the Father to know and to say when. May God have mercy on us. Amen. In Erie PA USA May 2011 AD Scott R. Harrington


We have been warned; all these false prophets are for a pupose,and the purpose is to cause confusion and doubt amongst the believers, to create immunity.
When the true predicrion comes, they will not adhere, thingking its another false prediction.
All predictions must be followed up by scriptures; The scriptures tells us when the end will be,there are certain things in the prophesy that must be fulfilled first.

1. The 10 kings will unite to set up a one world order.system.
2. Then a man will appear with all powers and lying wonders,as he comes up he will uproot 3kings,and he will change laws,and rules and introduce the number.
and make it compulsory for all to take the number to live.

3. Then he will gather his armies in a place called MEGIDO 70km north of jerusalem,and push south into jerusalem. Jerusalem will be trodden down by the gentiles.This man is a non religious man,for he considers himself God,and all to worship him.
He will destroy the dome,and build his temple on the spot. He will sit in his temple, taking Gods position.

4. THe king of the east will stand up ,the medes(iran and alliance (all muslems) and the king of the north,this could be russia) this will be the war of all wars,no rules followed.
5. Christ will come to stop the war,he will be in the air ,the first fruits will meet him in the air. He will destroy babylon from the air with the sword out of his mouth(his word)

6. Satan will be locked up for a 1000yrs.I think this will happen as soon as Jesus appears. The 10horned beast and the false prophet cast in lake of fire, BUT NOT SATAN?? Good question for the amillenialists. Why not?
7. The resurection of the multitudes,then his kingdom setup.
These are the signs, any predictions that does not follow these signs are false.

 

[wakeup]

Sorry, dude. You are wrong, wrong wrong!!! Nowhere does scripture say that anyone can know the month or year. Not even Jesus. So don't elevate yourself above Him.

Maggie

Can you show me that scripture waggie,where it says the no one know the mont or the year. You are twisting it for your purpose. Must be honest maggie.

 

[wakeup]

In acts, these things are spoken to, what I find interesting, is it is said that they will prophecy, but it does not call any one prophet.

Acts 2;17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, I will pour out my of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and daughters shall prophecy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.
18: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophecy:

If one looks at these scriptures, it is not about who is a prophet, but that of the Spirit , shall be in all men.

Just my thoughts on this.
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles

Good one pickles, anyone intepreting prophesy is not necessary a prophet.
My christian brothers are very easy to picup stones,if anything is said they can not comprehend,the one thing to do is lash out.

 

[wakeup]

God justifies and you can't even answer simple request to back your words with scriptures, but want people to follow blinding your visions/interpretation of events and twisted Bible reading.

I don't seek to know the scriptures. I seek to know God's heart and will for my life and the world and to follow His commandments.

what do you seek, wakeup?


Tell us again what month and year YOUR Lord is coming? You just said; I dont seek toknow scripture. So why ask?

if not that give us a clue what Bible verses should we seek understanding from? Just keep on doing what you always have been doing.


November 2017???

hot, cold?

You seem to be happy with the knowledge you have now,ok good.

 

[wakeup]

just astounding.

you are an idolator, then, if you pray to or worship a created Christ.

EMMANUEL....any clue what that means?

God WITH US, GOD DWELLING INSIDE THE FLESH. If the holy spirit dwells in you,ARE YOU THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT??

So many questions you refuse to answer ,why ? Because you have not got the answer.
Your doctrine is bogged down,cant go any further,there are no answers.
You cant even answer this simple question; Is jesus born in the flesh,or born in a spirit body??

 

[zone]

God WITH US, GOD DWELLING INSIDE THE FLESH. If the holy spirit dwells in you,ARE YOU THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT??

So many questions you refuse to answer ,why ? Because you have not got the answer.
Your doctrine is bogged down,cant go any further,there are no answers.
You cant even answer this simple question; Is jesus born in the flesh,or born in a spirit body??

ask your gnostic teachers.
i have no idea what you're on about.

 

[FireOnTheAltar]

Zone, I'm intreagued by your views of the end times. While I'm not a dispensationist, I have always been taught / believed that the millenium is yet to come after Christ returns, although I do agree with you the temple Ezekiel saw is the same that John saw descend down to earth. I've held to the view that the kingdom (while not fully manifest in this life) is accessible to the modern believer. Is there a website or a few articles one look at to get another look? Eschatology has always been an interest of mine.

 

[MaggieMye]

Can you show me that scripture wMaggie,where it says the no one know the month or the year. You are twisting it for your purpose. Must be honest maggie. Right here:

Acts 1:7
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. No one can know the TIMES OR the SEASONS; Time refers to not only the clock, but the day, week, month and year. Seasons refers to, basically, Sowing, Growing, Harvest and Rest; Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter. So ALL forms of time are covered in this verse and there is no need to be repetitive by the specification of 'month' or 'year'. If we are not to know the TIMES, we are not to know PERIOD. This verse sets the premise that if someone DOES think they know, they have listened to the deceiver or become proud and are so elevated in their own mind. They have listened to a voice, other than God, because GOD ISN'T TELLING.​

　
Maggie​

 

[zone]

Zone, I'm intreagued by your views of the end times. While I'm not a dispensationist, I have always been taught / believed that the millenium is yet to come after Christ returns, although I do agree with you the temple Ezekiel saw is the same that John saw descend down to earth. I've held to the view that the kingdom (while not fully manifest in this life) is accessible to the modern believer. Is there a website or a few articles one look at to get another look? Eschatology has always been an interest of mine.

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[zone]

Zone, I'm intreagued by your views of the end times. While I'm not a dispensationist, I have always been taught / believed that the millenium is yet to come after Christ returns, although I do agree with you the temple Ezekiel saw is the same that John saw descend down to earth. I've held to the view that the kingdom (while not fully manifest in this life) is accessible to the modern believer. Is there a website or a few articles one look at to get another look? Eschatology has always been an interest of mine.

and while some may not change their dispensational (or other) interpretation of the coming events: not a single follower of the Lamb of God can read Stephen Sizer's work and not be moved to serious repentence for Dominionism of any kind.

Stephen Sizer

 

[FireOnTheAltar]

and while some may not change their dispensational (or other) interpretation of the coming events: not a single follower of the Lamb of God can read Stephen Sizer's work and not be moved to serious repentence for Dominionism of any kind.

Stephen Sizer

Did a little research on Sizer. Definitely a controversial character. While I can totally understand his stance concerning Christian Palestinians, I find the fact that he's a regular contributor to various pro-Islamic media outlets a little alarming. Anyways, I really don't know enough about him or his beliefs to comment either way.

So you believe we that the "kingdom" that both Christ and John the Baptist referrs to in the first four gospels is literally right here, right now? I can see how a person could draw that conclussion. However, how would you interpret the Lord's prayer, specifically: "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven"?

Also, I could be mistaken however, I believe I read a previous comment that you made earlier in this thread that you believe that we are now living in the millenium? I would be interested in hearing why you belief this. Of course, as you probably have encountered, the first question that comes to mind is how can this be "the millenium" when roughly two milleniums have passed since the Church era has begun?

By no means am I trying to debate or argue, just trying to understand.

 

[zone]

Did a little research on Sizer. Definitely a controversial character. While I can totally understand his stance concerning Christian Palestinians, I find the fact that he's a regular contributor to various pro-Islamic media outlets a little alarming. Anyways, I really don't know enough about him or his beliefs to comment either way. .

huh?
you think islam is dangerous?
look into Talmudism.

of course he's controversial! he's saying hold it! check the Sermon on the Mount people: what's with the DU weapons dropped in the ME in God's Name?

i didn't post him for any ecumenical reasons: he offers a highly esteemed study into dispensationalism (including future 1,000 years) which is manifested in the west as christian zionism, which has attached to it pretribulation rapture: dual covenant theology: 2 peoples of God etc etc. >> two parallel but distinct Plans for 2 peoples.

anyways....its all related.

So you believe we that the "kingdom" that both Christ and John the Baptist referrs to in the first four gospels is literally right here, right now? I can see how a person could draw that conclussion. However, how would you interpret the Lord's prayer, specifically: "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven"?

Also, I could be mistaken however, I believe I read a previous comment that you made earlier in this thread that you believe that we are now living in the millenium? I would be interested in hearing why you belief this. Of course, as you probably have encountered, the first question that comes to mind is how can this be "the millenium" when roughly two milleniums have passed since the Church era has begun?

By no means am I trying to debate or argue, just trying to understand.

mkay.

let's do it like this: (your answers, and my questions don't mean we are setting anything in stone)....let's just see if we can answer some basic questions. i'll post questions, you post an answer...k?

HERE WE GO:

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

Matthew 21:5
“Say to the daughter of Zion, ‘Behold, your king is coming to you, humble, and mounted on a donkey, and on a colt, the foal of a beast of burden.’”

Matthew 12
Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit
22Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw. 23And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?” 24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” 25Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. 26And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. 28But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29Or how can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house. 30Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Luke 17
The Coming of the Kingdom
20 Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, 21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”h

John 18:36
Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."

QUESTION:

IS THE KINGDOM UNDERWAY?

or is it Postponed, as dispensational theology says, since the Pharisees rejected Jesus?

 

[journey41]

[/QUOTE]Tell me Zone, when Jesus was born out of Mary, was his body spirit or flesh?

I am still waiting for your answer? Just a one word answer please. We can take it from there. This way we can clarify and put to death any misconceptions.

 

[pickles]

Can you show me that scripture waggie,where it says the no one know the mont or the year. You are twisting it for your purpose. Must be honest maggie.

I have heard many saying though we cannot know the day or hour, that scriptures do not say we cannot know the month or year.
Ive wondered about this as when Jesus soke to this day, its time is not to be known.
I wondered about how often one will , pick at words in others, looking for the slightest thing that can indicate what one wants and wondered if this is being done with the word of Jesus as well.
Not to say one is wrong, but that we may be more careful about how we recieve what is said.
Then I remebered these words Jesus spoke on this unknown time.

Mark 13:18 Keep praying that this does not happens in winter.

This simple statement, speaks to not knowing the month as well.
But surpprisingly, Jesus is telling us that prayers can affect the time of year.
Also, does not revelations speak to the quota of saints being filled.
This also speaks to the time being subject to other influences.

It all though, shows that this time is known only to God Our Father.

in Jesus, God bless.
pickles

 

[zone]

I am still waiting for your answer? Just a one word answer please. We can take it from there. This way we can clarify and put to death any misconceptions.

oh please do.
the Son of Man was born in the flesh.

one word: flesh.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Unless and until one has a revelation understanding of Logos expressing Rhema, any Godhead belief will be merely a doctrine of men.

God manifest the complete substance of Himself in flesh; the Rhema divine content and the Logos divine expression. God spoke Himself into flesh as Jesus.

 

[MaggieMye]

AGAIN:
No one can know the TIMES OR the SEASONS; Time refers to not only the clock, but the day, week, month and year. Seasons refers to, basically, Sowing, Growing, Harvest and Rest; Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter. So ALL forms of time are covered in this verse and there is no need to be repetitive by the specification of 'month' or 'year'. If we are not to know the TIMES, we are not to know PERIOD. This verse sets the premise that if someone DOES think they know, they have listened to the deceiver or become proud and are so elevated in their own mind. They have listened to a voice, other than God, because GOD ISN'T TELLING.

　
Maggie​

 

[journey41]

oh please do.
the Son of Man was born in the flesh.

one word: flesh.

[/QUOTE]ok, we agree.

So we know by the scriptures that the Word became Flesh, and was concieved in his mothers womb, and grew in that womb and was born into this world like every other human being.

And although this human called Jesus is flesh, he has the Word of God in him which has been with God from the beginning when everything was created, now has all of a sudden become a lesser material than Spirit, which is flesh and my question is now
Are flesh bodies creatures?

Yes or no?

Please bear with me.

 

[zone]

[/QUOTE]ok, we agree.

So we know by the scriptures that the Word became Flesh, and was concieved in his mothers womb, and grew in that womb and was born into this world like every other human being.

And although this human called Jesus is flesh, he has the Word of God in him which has been with God from the beginning when everything was created, now has all of a sudden become a lesser material than Spirit, which is flesh and my question is now
Are flesh bodies creatures?

Yes or no?

Please bear with me.

journey i'm not the slightest bit interested in a discussion which has at its core the denial of the Deity of Christ.

if you can't understand the Incarnation and who Jesus is, i'm sorry.

 

[southern]

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