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When you are concentrating on something you might miss some meal doing this thing which you are concentrating on. Simply refusing food or water for a period of time is hunger-strike(starvation)!
Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.(Col 2:23)
Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.(Col 2:23)
Christ instructed us to fast...
Mat 6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
Mat 6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
Luk 5:34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them?
Luk 5:35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
And a fast is to not eat or drink...
Est 4:16 Go, gather together all the Jews that are present in Shushan, and fast ye for me, and neither eat nor drink three days, night or day: I also and my maidens will fast likewise; and so will I go in unto the king, which is not according to the law: and if I perish, I perish.
There is no instruction in the Bible concerning a fast in which one ate or drank at all.
Mat 6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
Mat 6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
Luk 5:34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them?
Luk 5:35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
And a fast is to not eat or drink...
Est 4:16 Go, gather together all the Jews that are present in Shushan, and fast ye for me, and neither eat nor drink three days, night or day: I also and my maidens will fast likewise; and so will I go in unto the king, which is not according to the law: and if I perish, I perish.
There is no instruction in the Bible concerning a fast in which one ate or drank at all.
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True Fasting is Strengthening the spiritman within while JESUS was with them true there was no need to Fast but Yes since we are waiting for HIS return we are told to do so, now understand we are not truly without GOD for we lives within us. Fasting allows the body/flesh to come subject to the spirit when it begins to crave we say no and feed the spirit with GOD's Word, healthy foods vegetation and not artificial preservatives etc. Keep in mind as well when we Fast we must Pray, Pray for Strength, Wisdom, Sight, Hearing and Vision this breaks down the flesh for we must die to the flesh daily. This is not about tradition it is about Relationship and Obedience.
Blessings!!!!!!!
Blessings!!!!!!!
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THERE IS! In Isaiah 58
"Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry(to Share your breadwith the hungry), and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?"
To share means you eat with them(him)!!! This is the fasting the Lord has chosen!
"Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry(to Share your breadwith the hungry), and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?"
To share means you eat with them(him)!!! This is the fasting the Lord has chosen!
I LOVE that passage/chapter!!!!!!
I want to post it for those that would like to read it, if it's too long, scroll past it please!
Isayah 58, "Cry aloud, spare not; lift up your voice like a trumpet, and show My people their transgressions, and the house of Yaaqob their sins. Yet they seek Me daily, and delight to know My ways, like a nation that did righteousness, and did not forsake the ordinance oftheir Father: they ask of Me the ordinances ofjustice; they take delight in approaching Yahweh. They say; Why have we fasted, and You do not see it? Why have we afflicted ourselves, and You take no knowledge of it? Behold, in the day of your fast you find pleasure; pursue profit, and exact all your labors; expect your workers to be employed. Behold, you fast for strife and debate, and to strike with the fist of wickedness. You cannot fast as you do this day, and expect your voice to be heard on high. Is this the kind offast that I have chosen, the day for a man to afflict his body? Is it only for bowing one's head like a reed, and for lying on sackcloth and ashes? Is that all there is to your fast? Will you call that an acceptable day to Yahweh? Is this not the kind of fast that I have chosen: to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, to let the oppressed go free, and that you break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry, and that you bring to your house the poor who are cast out; when you see the naked, that you cover him, and not hide yourself from your own flesh? Then your light will break forth like the morning, and your health will spring forth speedily, and your righteousness will go before you; the glory of Yahweh will be your corrector; to cleanse and purify. Then you will call, and Yahweh will answer; you will cry, and He will say: Here I am. If you take away the yoke from your midst, the pointing of the finger, and speaking vanity; iniquity, unrighteousness; And if you extend yourself on behalf of the hungry, to satisfy the afflicted soul; then your light will rise in obscurity, and your darkness will be as the noonday. Yahweh will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; strengthen, your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of Yahweh honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in Yahweh; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father--for the mouth of Yahweh has spoken it.
I want to post it for those that would like to read it, if it's too long, scroll past it please!
Isayah 58, "Cry aloud, spare not; lift up your voice like a trumpet, and show My people their transgressions, and the house of Yaaqob their sins. Yet they seek Me daily, and delight to know My ways, like a nation that did righteousness, and did not forsake the ordinance oftheir Father: they ask of Me the ordinances ofjustice; they take delight in approaching Yahweh. They say; Why have we fasted, and You do not see it? Why have we afflicted ourselves, and You take no knowledge of it? Behold, in the day of your fast you find pleasure; pursue profit, and exact all your labors; expect your workers to be employed. Behold, you fast for strife and debate, and to strike with the fist of wickedness. You cannot fast as you do this day, and expect your voice to be heard on high. Is this the kind offast that I have chosen, the day for a man to afflict his body? Is it only for bowing one's head like a reed, and for lying on sackcloth and ashes? Is that all there is to your fast? Will you call that an acceptable day to Yahweh? Is this not the kind of fast that I have chosen: to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, to let the oppressed go free, and that you break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry, and that you bring to your house the poor who are cast out; when you see the naked, that you cover him, and not hide yourself from your own flesh? Then your light will break forth like the morning, and your health will spring forth speedily, and your righteousness will go before you; the glory of Yahweh will be your corrector; to cleanse and purify. Then you will call, and Yahweh will answer; you will cry, and He will say: Here I am. If you take away the yoke from your midst, the pointing of the finger, and speaking vanity; iniquity, unrighteousness; And if you extend yourself on behalf of the hungry, to satisfy the afflicted soul; then your light will rise in obscurity, and your darkness will be as the noonday. Yahweh will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; strengthen, your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of Yahweh honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in Yahweh; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father--for the mouth of Yahweh has spoken it.
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Isa 58:5 Is it a fast that I have chosen, A day for a man to afflict his soul? Is it to bow down his head like a bulrush, And to spread out sackcloth and ashes? Would you call this a fast, And an acceptable day to the LORD?
Here is an example of David fasting...
2Sa 12:17 So the elders of his house arose and went to him, to raise him up from the ground. But he would not, nor did he eat food with them. 2Sa 12:18 Then on the seventh day it came to pass that the child died. And the servants of David were afraid to tell him that the child was dead. For they said, "Indeed, while the child was alive, we spoke to him, and he would not heed our voice. How can we tell him that the child is dead? He may do some harm!"
2Sa 12:19 When David saw that his servants were whispering, David perceived that the child was dead. Therefore David said to his servants, "Is the child dead?" And they said, "He is dead."
2Sa 12:20 So David arose from the ground, washed and anointed himself, and changed his clothes; and he went into the house of the LORD and worshiped. Then he went to his own house; and when he requested, they set food before him, and he ate.
Esther...
Est 4:16 "Go, gather all the Jews who are present in Shushan, and fast for me; neither eat nor drink for three days, night or day. My maids and I will fast likewise. And so I will go to the king, which is against the law; and if I perish, I perish!"
One fasts and humbles oneself by not eating or drinking, by afflicting one's soul. Eating and drinking is not fasting.
Here is an example of David fasting...
2Sa 12:17 So the elders of his house arose and went to him, to raise him up from the ground. But he would not, nor did he eat food with them. 2Sa 12:18 Then on the seventh day it came to pass that the child died. And the servants of David were afraid to tell him that the child was dead. For they said, "Indeed, while the child was alive, we spoke to him, and he would not heed our voice. How can we tell him that the child is dead? He may do some harm!"
2Sa 12:19 When David saw that his servants were whispering, David perceived that the child was dead. Therefore David said to his servants, "Is the child dead?" And they said, "He is dead."
2Sa 12:20 So David arose from the ground, washed and anointed himself, and changed his clothes; and he went into the house of the LORD and worshiped. Then he went to his own house; and when he requested, they set food before him, and he ate.
Esther...
Est 4:16 "Go, gather all the Jews who are present in Shushan, and fast for me; neither eat nor drink for three days, night or day. My maids and I will fast likewise. And so I will go to the king, which is against the law; and if I perish, I perish!"
One fasts and humbles oneself by not eating or drinking, by afflicting one's soul. Eating and drinking is not fasting.
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[FONT="]I completely agree with oldhermit about the meaning of Luke 5:35. There was no need to fast while Jesus was [/FONT][FONT="]with his disciples it was a joyful time. Later, when Jesus died his disciples mourned and fasted. But when he was resurrected and ascended to heaven, they had no further cause for mournful fasting.[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT]
[FONT="]You quoted Matthew 5:6 and then posed the question: In order for the righteous will of God to be done on Earth we may need to fast? [/FONT]
[FONT="]Do you mean a literal fast where a person does not eat? Matthew 5:6 is talking about being hungry for spiritual food. We are blessed if we have this desire or hunger in us for God’s word, This is the opposite of fasting or abstaining from “food”, we want to recognize the need for spiritual food and fill the need.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Jesus and his Jewish followers fasted on Attonment day because God instructed them to do so under the Mosaic Law. There are other accounts of fasting by Christian’s in the New Testament but it was not considered a ritual practice or an obligation. For Christian’s it is a personal choice. For some people it helps them feel more focused during prayer or bible study. Sometimes when we are mourning or deeply stressed we naturally fast because lose our appetite. [/FONT]
[FONT="]You quoted Matthew 5:6 and then posed the question: In order for the righteous will of God to be done on Earth we may need to fast? [/FONT]
[FONT="]Do you mean a literal fast where a person does not eat? Matthew 5:6 is talking about being hungry for spiritual food. We are blessed if we have this desire or hunger in us for God’s word, This is the opposite of fasting or abstaining from “food”, we want to recognize the need for spiritual food and fill the need.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Jesus and his Jewish followers fasted on Attonment day because God instructed them to do so under the Mosaic Law. There are other accounts of fasting by Christian’s in the New Testament but it was not considered a ritual practice or an obligation. For Christian’s it is a personal choice. For some people it helps them feel more focused during prayer or bible study. Sometimes when we are mourning or deeply stressed we naturally fast because lose our appetite. [/FONT]
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Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
8 ¶ Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.
The true New Testament fast is to give to those in need ...not starve yourself!
God desires mercy not sacrifice!
7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
8 ¶ Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.
The true New Testament fast is to give to those in need ...not starve yourself!
God desires mercy not sacrifice!
This is the 21 century now it is impossible to fast and be in physical employment at the same time.
Im sure does not want people putting themselves in danger and would people stay from other luxuries as in TV internet etc.
abstain from drinking coffee just have water.how much time do you spend on the net convert that time into praying. same as tv time. maybe fast from food on a day when your not working.instead of driving that 2 mile journey to work walk it feel some inconvienience.
Im sure does not want people putting themselves in danger and would people stay from other luxuries as in TV internet etc.
abstain from drinking coffee just have water.how much time do you spend on the net convert that time into praying. same as tv time. maybe fast from food on a day when your not working.instead of driving that 2 mile journey to work walk it feel some inconvienience.
Hmmm, when I compare this to...
Heb 11:36 Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment.
Heb 11:37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented—
Heb 11:38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.
Heb 11:39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise,
Heb 11:40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us.
I wonder what in the world?
Heb 11:36 Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment.
Heb 11:37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented—
Heb 11:38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.
Heb 11:39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise,
Heb 11:40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us.
I wonder what in the world?
The eyes eat, and so do the ears, and so does the mouth, nose...etc.
I do not disagree that there are many forms of fasting, and Jesus used the solitude of the wilderness to fast completely for the 40.
Matthew 6:21-23King James Version (KJV)
21*For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22*The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23*But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
I do not disagree that there are many forms of fasting, and Jesus used the solitude of the wilderness to fast completely for the 40.
Matthew 6:21-23King James Version (KJV)
21*For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22*The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23*But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
The game I posted does make it really easy to fast from the unclean thing.
2 Corinthians 6:16-18King James Version (KJV)
16*And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17*Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18*And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
2 Corinthians 6:16-18King James Version (KJV)
16*And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17*Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18*And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
