GIANTS IN THE BIBLE? (Genesis 6:1-4)

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RachelBibleStudent

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Elizabeth619 said:
You mentioned "bound"

Does bound literally mean "held and cannot move" or can it mean "limited or restricted"

Could "bound" mean he is restricted? Doesn't have the same abilities he used to?
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in the bible when satan is bound he is restrained from deceiving the nations...
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
in the bible when satan is bound he is restrained from deceiving the nations...
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Not trying to be an idiot here, but explain "deceiving the nations" What he is not allowed to do that he once was able to do?
 
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see satan has yet to be cast down to earth by the arch angel michael

he is not bound till Rev 20 when a great angel with a chain binds him hand and foot and casts him into hell. probably the angel of the Lord
 
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Markseasigh said:
actually you just didn't read the Mount Hermon search and therefore are ignoring my points.

so i will show you.

Jos 13:10 KJV - And all the cities of Sihon king of the Amorites, which reigned in Heshbon, unto the border of the children of Ammon;
Jos 13:11 KJV - And Gilead, and the border of the Geshurites and Maachathites, and all mount Hermon, and all Bashan unto Salcah;
Jos 13:12 KJV - All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.

whats that say to ya?

I will find azazel in the Bible for you. he did come here and I have read it, but lets start with that. The name is like asaiel or spelled differently but itdoes say it.

Og is a giant king from the descendants of the Angel and Man procreation what do you think of that?

Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV
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i read the verses at the link...none of them said anything about fallen angels or nephilim...

the hebrew word that the king james version translates as 'giants' in joshua 13:12 is not even the same word nephilim...the hebrew word used there is actually 'rephaim'

the rephaites were an amorite people...they had several branches including the emites and zuzites or zamzummites and anakites...and the land of bashan was also once controlled by rephaites...of which og was the last...

being amorites the rephaites' origins go back to canaan son of ham...grandson of noah...there is nothing in the bible to suggest any angelic intermingling in the lineage of canaan...

the one place where the hebrew word 'azazel' appears in the bible is not in reference to an angel...instead it refers to the scapegoat of the day of atonement...
 
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the only thing Satan is not allowed to do is touch us. think about it. in the story of Job, God told him that could send famine and other natural disasters to his servant Job, but he was not allowed to to put a hand on Job
 
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Elizabeth619 said:
Not trying to be an idiot here, but explain "deceiving the nations" What he is not allowed to do that he once was able to do?
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i am not totally sure...i have always taken it to mean that he has lost his power to deceive entire nations wholesale...
 
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u r totally wrong. satan has already been cast down to Earth. u need to read the word again . bc wat u just said was a lie markseasigh
 
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richyrich

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the word says that hes in the core of the Earth. now it uses a different word, but it means center. which is where the core is
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Markseasigh said:
see satan has yet to be cast down to earth by the arch angel michael

he is not bound till Rev 20 when a great angel with a chain binds him hand and foot and casts him into hell. probably the angel of the Lord
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revelation is not in chronological order...so you cannot make assumptions about what has and has not yet happened just based on the fact that one thing is described before another thing in revelation...

and when satan is bound he is cast into the abyss...not hell...
 
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MS.RACHEL , LOOKS LIKE WERE BOTH ON ONE ACCORD. LOL
 
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richyrich said:
the only thing Satan is not allowed to do is touch us. think about it. in the story of Job, God told him that could send famine and other natural disasters to his servant Job, but he was not allowed to to put a hand on Job
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yeah thats why these angels were cast into hell.
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
revelation is not in chronological order...so you cannot make assumptions about what has and has not yet happened just based on the fact that one thing is described before another thing in revelation...

and when satan is bound he is cast into the abyss...not hell...
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really what order is it in?
 
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NONE OF THE ANGELS HAVE BEEN CASTED INTO HELL. THEIR LOCKED UP UNDER US, TILL THE DAY WEN GOD WILL RELAESA THE TRUMPET SOUND, WHICH WILL OPEN UP THE ENTRANCE FOR THE ANGELS TO BE RELEASED.
 
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richyrich

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READ THE BOOK OF DANIEL AND ISAIAH. BECAUSE REVELATION IS NOT IN ORDER. ITS SCATTERED FOR A REASON.
 
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richyrich said:
u r totally wrong. satan has already been cast down to Earth. u need to read the word again . bc wat u just said was a lie markseasigh
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no lie give me one bible verse that says, "satan was cast out a long time ago" it says angels are bound in hell for sinning against god and man. but if Satan was bound in hell, than i ask you how is he able to speak to job and tempt Jesus? no lies here just truth, sorry, it doesn't fit your belief system, guess you have to change your beliefs to what the Bible says, like I did.

after all, i once believed as you had, that is what allows me to know the lies ive found that were created by the RCC and the Masons. Otherwise why would I have written to correct it?
 
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richyrich said:
READ THE BOOK OF DANIEL AND ISAIAH. BECAUSE REVELATION IS NOT IN ORDER. ITS SCATTERED FOR A REASON.
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lol I have.

show me a verse in Isaiah that says satan has been bound in hell. GO ON!!

if your belief is true you should be able to prove it with a bible verse. like me

ANGELS REPRODUCED WITH MAN...

see here:

Gen 6:2 KJV - That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:4 KJV - There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
 
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WELLL, TO CORRECT YOU, THE ONLY THING SATAN IS ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW IS USE HIS SPIRIT TO USE PEOPLE TO TAKE CONTORL OF THE WORLD, IF HE WAS ON EARTH NOW, HE WOULDVE ALREADY, BUT HES LOCKED UP, SO ALLHE HAS IS HIS SPIRIT. JUST LIKE GOD. JESUS WALKED ON EARTH,BUT WHEN HE LEFT, WHAT DID HE SAY. HES SENDING THE COMFORTER. WHO IS THAT. THE SPIRIT OF GOD. LIIKE THIS SIS SIMPLE STUFF TO UNDERSTAND
 
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LOOOK SIR, THAT WAS BEFOORE THE FLOOD. CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE FLOOD TOOK PLACE. GOD SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT THE FLOOD WAS SO THAT HE CA CLEAN OUT ALL EVILNESS. COME ON MAN, THIS IS SIMPLE STUFF. STOP OVER ANALYZING
 
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richyrich said:
WELLL, TO CORRECT YOU, THE ONLY THING SATAN IS ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW IS USE HIS SPIRIT TO USE PEOPLE TO TAKE CONTORL OF THE WORLD, IF HE WAS ON EARTH NOW, HE WOULDVE ALREADY, BUT HES LOCKED UP, SO ALLHE HAS IS HIS SPIRIT. JUST LIKE GOD. JESUS WALKED ON EARTH,BUT WHEN HE LEFT, WHAT DID HE SAY. HES SENDING THE COMFORTER. WHO IS THAT. THE SPIRIT OF GOD. LIIKE THIS SIS SIMPLE STUFF TO UNDERSTAND
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Then with all your cap letters can you please explain why He is able to go to heaven and see God in Job?

and able to tempt Jesus in the dessert ?

or does this not fit into your theory.

do you believe in evil men, or just a devil that makes good men do bad things?
 
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richyrich said:
LOOOK SIR, THAT WAS BEFOORE THE FLOOD. CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE FLOOD TOOK PLACE. GOD SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT THE FLOOD WAS SO THAT HE CA CLEAN OUT ALL EVILNESS. COME ON MAN, THIS IS SIMPLE STUFF. STOP OVER ANALYZING
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yes thats right. and thats why moses was killing off the remainder of the Giants after the flood, cause God wanted them GONE. they were an abomination to Him

If they were an abomination to him, that means he didn't create them, they were the product of the angel and Man reproduction in the days just before the flood of Noah.
 
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