God Does Not Seem to Be Listening...Well Maybe Get Right!
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Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.[SUP]10 [/SUP]Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Give us this day our daily bread.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
As anyone can see from the words written in black and white, you pray because you lack understanding. Prayer is for people in a "possessive state of mind" "carnally inclined", some more than others and some not at all, ahem, yeah I.
OUR is a possessive pronoun
THY and THINE (YOUR/s)are also possessive pronouns
Possession or desire PERIOD is separation from God or sin and in all cases possession is seeking the worldly, whether it is to know God as being who talks to you, or sexual desires, or even food.
However...
US is an Oblique pronoun-cannot be used as the subject; used as the role of a verb
WE is a Nominative pronoun-used as the subject
This is God showing that you think you speak to him, how so, when you SEEK to properly read the verses of the bible written in plain English your prayers are all you must do to talk to him. LOL.
I will share more on MY pronoun theory...
There are two extremes of SELF or ONENESS
"I" being whole, total self, spiritual, ubiquitous, GOD, total truth...that is why Jesus teaches with "I AM"
John...
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
I AM is the father and Nominative case
ME is the next step down from "I" and Oblique case
My, MINE is the next step down from ME and they are possessive case (MAN, WORLDLY, CARNAL)
Hence the verse ...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me
On the other end of the spectrum there is the word "THEIRS". Now this word represents total separation from self. It speaks entirely of others and only of the ownership or possessive nature of those others. There is no self, no ONENESS, no GOD, CARNAL, only coveting that which is the neighbor's
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Give us this day our daily bread.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
As anyone can see from the words written in black and white, you pray because you lack understanding. Prayer is for people in a "possessive state of mind" "carnally inclined", some more than others and some not at all, ahem, yeah I.
OUR is a possessive pronoun
THY and THINE (YOUR/s)are also possessive pronouns
Possession or desire PERIOD is separation from God or sin and in all cases possession is seeking the worldly, whether it is to know God as being who talks to you, or sexual desires, or even food.
However...
US is an Oblique pronoun-cannot be used as the subject; used as the role of a verb
WE is a Nominative pronoun-used as the subject
This is God showing that you think you speak to him, how so, when you SEEK to properly read the verses of the bible written in plain English your prayers are all you must do to talk to him. LOL.
I will share more on MY pronoun theory...
There are two extremes of SELF or ONENESS
"I" being whole, total self, spiritual, ubiquitous, GOD, total truth...that is why Jesus teaches with "I AM"
John...
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
I AM is the father and Nominative case
ME is the next step down from "I" and Oblique case
My, MINE is the next step down from ME and they are possessive case (MAN, WORLDLY, CARNAL)
Hence the verse ...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me
On the other end of the spectrum there is the word "THEIRS". Now this word represents total separation from self. It speaks entirely of others and only of the ownership or possessive nature of those others. There is no self, no ONENESS, no GOD, CARNAL, only coveting that which is the neighbor's
What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? 2You desire but do not have, so you kill. You covet but you cannot get what you want, so you quarrel and fight. You do not have because you do not ask God.3When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures. (JAMES 4:1-3 NIV)
An actual example of praying outside of God's will:
Years ago, a woman wanted to marry Kenneth Copeland, but he was already married to Gloria. The woman prayed that Gloria Copeland would die, so that she could marry Kenneth Copeland. Of course that woman was outrageous, but that's an example of praying outside of God's will. The woman's motives were wrong.
You've Already Got It!: So Quit Trying to Get It - Andrew Wommack - Google Books
The Bible teaches us, "You must not covet." (Rom 7:7). This woman coveted Gloria's husband. Coveting is outside of God's will; it's sin. God does not answer or grant sinful prayers.
We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who does his will (John 9:31).
An actual example of praying outside of God's will:
Years ago, a woman wanted to marry Kenneth Copeland, but he was already married to Gloria. The woman prayed that Gloria Copeland would die, so that she could marry Kenneth Copeland. Of course that woman was outrageous, but that's an example of praying outside of God's will. The woman's motives were wrong.
You've Already Got It!: So Quit Trying to Get It - Andrew Wommack - Google Books
The Bible teaches us, "You must not covet." (Rom 7:7). This woman coveted Gloria's husband. Coveting is outside of God's will; it's sin. God does not answer or grant sinful prayers.
We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who does his will (John 9:31).
Futhermore...
The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single(I), thy whole body shall be full of light.[SUP]23 [/SUP]But if thine eye be evil(literal human eyeball), thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
[SUP]24 [/SUP]No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single(I), thy whole body shall be full of light.[SUP]23 [/SUP]But if thine eye be evil(literal human eyeball), thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
[SUP]24 [/SUP]No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
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God's will is rarely our will. This is where the problem often lies. We pray for God to bless OUR WILL, rather than pray to be willing to follow His will, whatever that may be. No, CEF, you are wrong when you say nothing is out of God's will. Unless what you mean is that God's Will will prevail no matter what we humans do. In the end, God's plan will come true. It would just be better, and make life nicer, to follow His will immediately and live the life He graciously planned for us.
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I think someone else may have posted this as well, but it bears repeating. Prayer was never intended to inform God of things He doesn't know. The point of prayer is not merely to get what we want but to nurture our relationship with God. As a result prayer can change us rather than the situation, reinforcing our confidence in our God's sufficiency and realigning our will with His. At the same time God invites us to involve ourselves in His work by praying.
1) i pray out of obedience - we are called to pray in a number of scriptures, especially instead of worrying
2) i have learned to rely on God when i'm feeling upset or needy, instead of calling a friend to vent or complain.
3) rather than prayer "events", i find myself "talking" to God all day long, like an open conversation that never closes - to me that is what "prayer without ceasing" is about.
great question! : )
2) i have learned to rely on God when i'm feeling upset or needy, instead of calling a friend to vent or complain.
3) rather than prayer "events", i find myself "talking" to God all day long, like an open conversation that never closes - to me that is what "prayer without ceasing" is about.
great question! : )
Technically it is God that shows us everything as it is the light that makes manifest and the word of God states clearly that....
1. The Word of God is spiritual in origin
2. The Word of God is spiritually discerned
3. The Spirit of truth leads and guides into ALL truth
4. It is God that gives understanding of ALL things by the Spirit of God....
Just saying that is and not mouthing...for real!
1. The Word of God is spiritual in origin
2. The Word of God is spiritually discerned
3. The Spirit of truth leads and guides into ALL truth
4. It is God that gives understanding of ALL things by the Spirit of God....
Just saying that is and not mouthing...for real!