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RgM

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are you missing off a few words here that could put a different spin to what you are saying ?
'made him to be sin FOR US....(OUR sin was put on Him) who knew no sin.
Please post the complete verse you want to use word for word and we will discuss it.
 

posthuman

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#42
Do you believe that God made Jesus Christ?

what a silly question

God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us,
so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.

(2 Corinthians 5:21)

just gotta read the whole verse :rolleyes:

the complete verse

IKR??
;)
 

RgM

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#43

what a silly question

God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us,
so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.

(2 Corinthians 5:21)

just gotta read the whole verse :rolleyes:
Do you believe Him is sin?
 

RgM

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#47
do you believe in the resurrection?
I believe that you do not believe that to which you quote to me from out of the bible.
If you did you would answer the simple questions I have asked you in reply to
what you have told me you believe.

But you do not.

Why not?
 

RgM

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I will answer any question to the point to the simplest point as to anything I believe.
 

RgM

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Do I believe that God made Jesus sin?

No

I do not.
 

RgM

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Do I believe that Jesus died on a cross and was resurrected?

Yes I do.
 

RgM

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#51
Jesus was the Light of God.

Do you believe that God made His own Light to be sin?

That is so of the devil how could anyone of a sane mind that knows God believe such nonsense?

That is why I came here asking you?

To see if you would even admit believing it and them to try to understand why you believe it?
 

RgM

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#52
Make me understand why you believe the Almighty Living Lord God
Would take the Light of Life and make it into sin?

If God had actually made Jesus to be sin then Jesus would be sin.

Who among you believe Jesus is sin?
 

RgM

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#53
Most of you believe that Jesus is the Word.

Do you believe that God made the Word to become sin for you?

No you do not.

If you do then admit it to me.
 

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#56
Jesus was the Light of God.

Do you believe that God made His own Light to be sin?

That is so of the devil how could anyone of a sane mind that knows God believe such nonsense?

That is why I came here asking you?

To see if you would even admit believing it and them to try to understand why you believe it?
Have I missed anything ? where did anyone say that Jesus is sin ? so why are you harping on about it ?
 

RgM

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Have I missed anything ? where did anyone say that Jesus is sin ? so why are you harping on about it ?
The let's start with you...Do you believe that God made Jesus to be sin?

Yes or no?
 

RgM

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I do not believe that God made Jesus to be sin.
 

posthuman

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[TD="class: top, width: 17%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]Strong's[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 20%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]Transliteration[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 21%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]Greek[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 21%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]English[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 21%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]Morphology[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]3588 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]ton[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]τὸν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]the [one][/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Art-AMS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]3361 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"][/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]μὴ[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]not[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Adv[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1097 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]gnonta[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]γνόντα[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]having known[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]V-APA-AMS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]266 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hamartian[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἁμαρτίαν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]sin,[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-AFS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]5228 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hyper[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ὑπὲρ[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]for[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Prep[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1473 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hēmōn[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἡμῶν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]us[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]PPro-G1P[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]266 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hamartian[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἁμαρτίαν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]sin[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-AFS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]4160 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]epoiēsen[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἐποίησεν,[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]he made,[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]V-AIA-3S[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]2443 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hina[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἵνα[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]that[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Conj[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1473 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hēmeis[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἡμεῖς[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]we[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]PPro-N1P[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1096 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]genōmetha[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]γενώμεθα[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]might become[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]V-ASM-1P[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1343 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]dikaiosynē[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]δικαιοσύνη[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"][the] righteousness[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-NFS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]2316 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]Theou[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]Θεοῦ[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]of God[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-GMS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1722 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]en[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἐν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]in[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Prep[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]846 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]autō[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]αὐτῷ.[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]him.[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]PPro-DM3S[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


maybe this will help :)


"epoi
ēsen" is to manufacture or construct. it's not "create" or "become" or "come into being" --
"genōmetha" is to come into being, to be born, to occur.

 

RgM

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[TABLE="class: maintext, width: 100%"]
[TR]
[TD="class: top, width: 17%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]Strong's[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 20%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]Transliteration[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 21%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]Greek[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 21%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]English[/TD]
[TD="class: top, width: 21%, bgcolor: #0099FF"]Morphology[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]3588 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]ton[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]τὸν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]the [one][/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Art-AMS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]3361 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"][/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]μὴ[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]not[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Adv[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1097 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]gnonta[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]γνόντα[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]having known[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]V-APA-AMS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]266 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hamartian[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἁμαρτίαν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]sin,[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-AFS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]5228 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hyper[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ὑπὲρ[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]for[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Prep[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1473 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hēmōn[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἡμῶν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]us[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]PPro-G1P[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]266 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hamartian[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἁμαρτίαν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]sin[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-AFS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]4160 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]epoiēsen[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἐποίησεν,[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]he made,[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]V-AIA-3S[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]2443 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hina[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἵνα[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]that[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Conj[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1473 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]hēmeis[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἡμεῖς[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]we[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]PPro-N1P[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1096 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]genōmetha[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]γενώμεθα[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]might become[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]V-ASM-1P[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1343 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]dikaiosynē[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]δικαιοσύνη[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"][the] righteousness[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-NFS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]2316 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]Theou[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]Θεοῦ[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]of God[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]N-GMS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]1722 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]en[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]ἐν[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]in[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]Prep[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: strongsnt"]846 [e][/TD]
[TD="class: translit"]autō[/TD]
[TD="class: greek2"]αὐτῷ.[/TD]
[TD="class: eng"]him.[/TD]
[TD="class: pos"]PPro-DM3S[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


maybe this will help :)


"epoi
ēsen" is to manufacture or construct. it's not "create" or "become" or "come into being" --
"genōmetha" is to come into being, to be born, to occur.

Do you believe that God made Jesus to be sin?

Yes or no?
 
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