God's ideal diet IS vegetarian.

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MarkayMrk777

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God's ideal diet IS vegetarian.

Man was originally created as vegetarian:
In the Garden of Eden, God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed
which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to
you it shall be for food." Gen 1:29

Man ends as a vegetarian:
In the New Heaven and New Earth. No more death ( ie, slaughter of animals ) Rev. 21:4

Isaiah 11:6-9, foresee a return to this vegetarian world where the wolf, lamb, lion, cow, snake
and little child co-exist peacefully.

Basically, there are health vegans and ethical vegans. Many vegans are both. Health-wise,
a diet high in animal fat and casein from dairy products is a trigger for many of our Western
diseases, specifically heart disease and cancer.
As man returns to a Garden of Eden diet, a vegetarian diet, scientific research confirms that this
diet is responsible for the prevention, regression, or even the reversal of many of the diseases
present in our society today.

And from an ethical standpoint, I believe that God’s instruction for mankind to behave as benevolent
stewards of His kingdom on earth has been basically ignored through mankind’s selfish choices.
Mankind must cease to be motivated by the desire for oppressive power, and instead work to eliminate
the shameful, gruesome and inhumane practices of factory farming for food and fur, indiscriminate
hunting, poaching and other animal cruelties that threaten the very definition of humanity.

We see that being vegan was God's initial plan in the book of Genesis, and is his ultimate plan in the
book of Revelation. Yet is it OK to live up to God's ideal of being vegan today? Of course!
As Jesus said, "Your kingdom come. Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven" (Matthew 6:10).
However, eating certain meats is allowed in the Bible. Therefore, vegan Christians and Christians who
eat meat must not look down or condemn each other, because "God has accepted them"
 
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MarkayMrk777

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webchatter

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Read Ezekial. It is not Biblical to be vegan or vegetarian. If you are vegetarian for religious reasons, you obviously aren't Christian, maybe you are Buddist.
Many Christians are vegetarian & vegan, but it is for reasons other than Christianity beliefs. There is no death in heaven agreed. Why would we need to eat anything in heaven? WE go to heaven & become vegetarians is adding to the Bible.
As I've seen so often, vegetarianism becomes a religion in itself.
 

Ariel82

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1 Timothy 4:2-4

King James Version (KJV)

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:


Jesus ate fish:



Luke 24


40 When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet.[f] 41 But while they still did not believe for joy, and marveled, He said to them, “Have you any food here?” 42 So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb.[g] 43 And He took it and ate in their presence.
 

crossnote

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I'd be careful...

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
(1Ti 4:1-5)
 
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jimmydiggs

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[h=3]Slow down bud.

Romans 14:2[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]2 [/SUP]One person
 
Nov 22, 2012
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Since when ascetic way of life we call diet?I think that can say only a man who have no idea about life by Gospel...
 
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nathan3

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Read Ezekial. It is not Biblical to be vegan or vegetarian. If you are vegetarian for religious reasons, you obviously aren't Christian, maybe you are Buddist.
Many Christians are vegetarian & vegan, but it is for reasons other than Christianity beliefs. There is no death in heaven agreed. Why would we need to eat anything in heaven? WE go to heaven & become vegetarians is adding to the Bible.
As I've seen so often, vegetarianism becomes a religion in itself.
thats a general thing to say. How are you going to judge some one is a Christian or not based off what kind of food they choose to eat or not ????? : / Im a Christian and perffer only vegtables .and its for Biblical reasons.
 

Ariel82

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grr my post is missing...

Jesus ate FISH and was not a vegetarian.

Luke 24
[h=3][/h][SUP]36 [/SUP]Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them,
 
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rauleetoe

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God's ideal diet IS vegetarian.

Man was originally created as vegetarian:
In the Garden of Eden, God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed
which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to
you it shall be for food." Gen 1:29

Man ends as a vegetarian:
In the New Heaven and New Earth. No more death ( ie, slaughter of animals ) Rev. 21:4

Isaiah 11:6-9, foresee a return to this vegetarian world where the wolf, lamb, lion, cow, snake
and little child co-exist peacefully.

Basically, there are health vegans and ethical vegans. Many vegans are both. Health-wise,
a diet high in animal fat and casein from dairy products is a trigger for many of our Western
diseases, specifically heart disease and cancer.
As man returns to a Garden of Eden diet, a vegetarian diet, scientific research confirms that this
diet is responsible for the prevention, regression, or even the reversal of many of the diseases
present in our society today.

And from an ethical standpoint, I believe that God’s instruction for mankind to behave as benevolent
stewards of His kingdom on earth has been basically ignored through mankind’s selfish choices.
Mankind must cease to be motivated by the desire for oppressive power, and instead work to eliminate
the shameful, gruesome and inhumane practices of factory farming for food and fur, indiscriminate
hunting, poaching and other animal cruelties that threaten the very definition of humanity.

We see that being vegan was God's initial plan in the book of Genesis, and is his ultimate plan in the
book of Revelation. Yet is it OK to live up to God's ideal of being vegan today? Of course!
As Jesus said, "Your kingdom come. Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven" (Matthew 6:10).
However, eating certain meats is allowed in the Bible. Therefore, vegan Christians and Christians who
eat meat must not look down or condemn each other, because "God has accepted them"

Yes, and if you look at romans 14, the whole chapter talks about this,also..if you look at it technically..before the fall, Adam and Eve WERE vegan! All this creature eating another did not happen until after the fall..and I do think it is interesting how the first ones to try to justify their love of meat are christians, which is fine..but then they will be the first to try to get you to eat meat with them, as if somehow you abstaining from animal flesh makes you less of a christian! I know this because i was a vegan for about a year and was vegetarian for almost a full decade. The ones who gave me the most problems and the biggest resistance were christians, some of whom assumed i was of a 'different' religion because i was vegan, and here i was attending the same church as they were! (maybe they thought i was a vegan spy, lol)
 
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God's ideal diet IS vegetarian.

Man was originally created as vegetarian:
In the Garden of Eden, God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed
which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to
you it shall be for food." Gen 1:29
Yes, there was no death in the beginning, even of animals.

The first animal to die was as a sacrifice to clothe Adam and Eve with its skin (Ge 3:21).

After that God gave mankind everything that lives and moves as his food. (Ge 9:3)
It matters not what we will eat in the New Jerusalem. That is future.

On this earth now, God has given us everything that lives and moves as food.
And if God has given it to me, I don't need to improve upon it.
 
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God's ideal diet IS vegetarian.

Man was originally created as vegetarian:
In the Garden of Eden, God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed
which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to
you it shall be for food." Gen 1:29
Yes, there was no death in the beginning, even of animals.

The first animal to die was as a sacrifice to clothe Adam and Eve with its skin (Ge 3:21).

After that God gave mankind everything that lives and moves as his food. (Ge 9:3)
It matters not what we will eat in the New Jerusalem. That is future.

On this earth now, God has given us everything that lives and moves as food.
And if God has given it to me, I don't need to improve upon it.
 
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webchatter

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thats a general thing to say. How are you going to judge some one is a Christian or not based off what kind of food they choose to eat or not ????? : / Im a Christian and perffer only vegtables .and its for Biblical reasons.
I didn't judge anyone. Where is the verse that proves your claim that Christians should be vegetarians?
 
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'If a man eats only vegetables, he does so to the Lord'.

The burnings at the altar weren't necessarily eaten either.

And since Jesus death there is no need for animal sacrifice.

So, technically, there's no need to eat meat or kill any animals.

that said, I'm not sure whether every animal that was eaten in OT was killed as a sacrifice.

If it was, then it's sinful to eat meat. If it wasn't, and some of the men ate meat as part of a daily diet, then it isn't sinful.

But there's no reason a Christian can't be vegan.
 
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Also I think there's a distinction between slaying lambs and oxen as opposed to eating fish.
 
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webchatter

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'If a man eats only vegetables, he does so to the Lord'.

The burnings at the altar weren't necessarily eaten either.

And since Jesus death there is no need for animal sacrifice.

So, technically, there's no need to eat meat or kill any animals.

that said, I'm not sure whether every animal that was eaten in OT was killed as a sacrifice.

If it was, then it's sinful to eat meat. If it wasn't, and some of the men ate meat as part of a daily diet, then it isn't sinful.

But there's no reason a Christian can't be vegan.
I don't see a verse here saying Christians are to be vegetarian.
People wern't supposed to eat sacrified animals.
 
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I don't see a verse here saying Christians are to be vegetarian.
People wern't supposed to eat sacrified animals.
Nor do I. I'm just saying, you don't have to be a meat eater either. If we don't sacrifice animals to God any more, and sacrificed animals aren't to be eaten anyway, then there's no reason that a believer has to eat meat.
 

Laodicea

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God's original diet is a vegetarian diet and it has been found that a vegetarian diet is the healthiest diet for us. Is it a sin to eat meat? No, God gave a list of clean and unclean meat they could eat and they were not to eat clean meat with the blood.
 
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It actually isn't unclean to eat anything anymore, unless it's a sacrificial animal. We aren't meant to sacrifice animals to God. Instead our sacrifice is shown within our lives. We shed our sins as far as possible.

But yea, Laodicea is right. The human body is designed to eat meat once in a while. Fish is better than red meat.

eating meat all the time is attributed to all sorts of illnesses, obesity and heart disease.
 
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rauleetoe

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I don't see a verse here saying Christians are to be vegetarian.
People wern't supposed to eat sacrified animals.
Actually..look in Genesis. The diet God commanded Adam and Eve was to eat from the trees/plants. No talk of animals dying for meat/food until after the fall. So technically,and scripturally..They were vegan.