God's Very Simple Will, Under His Pure GRACE!

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Precious friend(s). God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

(2) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE thy neighbor as thyself!"
(
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(3) "Study" HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, for "Approval!"
(
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward, ruling, and reigning With CHRIST!

Precious friend(s): Please Be Very Richly Blessed!
 

p_rehbein

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Hyper grace?

Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

Here, lemme fix thissin' for ya:

all sins forgiven where one asks for forgiveness, Eternal Life, and , peace with God.

the precious blood of Jesus cleanses us of our sins and makes us worthy to be called the children of God and heirs to the Promise. However, one must repent and ASK for forgiveness of their sins in order for the blood to be applied.

(IMO)
 

throughfaith

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#3
Hyper grace?

Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

Here, lemme fix thissin' for ya:

all sins forgiven where one asks for forgiveness, Eternal Life, and , peace with God.

the precious blood of Jesus cleanses us of our sins and makes us worthy to be called the children of God and heirs to the Promise. However, one must repent and ASK for forgiveness of their sins in order for the blood to be applied.

(IMO)
Verses please ?
 
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UPDATED version:

Precious friend(s), is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing
God's Differences Between "HIS Relationship With us," And
"our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With those who humbly:
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS
Precious And ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:


All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY of sin!}
Justification First, And, THEN:


(2) The believer SHOULD do "good works" {Which will NEVER
EQUAL CHRIST's TOTAL
PAYMENT For the above PENALTY of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM,
having "been Called into
fellowship With HIM!" Amen?:

We "work out OUR OWN salvation" {This SHOULD Be a
lifetime of DELIVERANCE From the POWER of sin!}
Sanctification:

(2a) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor
as yourself!" (
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(2b) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show
yourself
Approved Unto God! (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!),
ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will FINALLY Be At
The Judgment Day:


(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE of sin!}
Amen?

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Conclusion:

BIG Differences Between God's Relationship And our fellowship!
Correct?

Precious friend(s): Please Be Very Richly Blessed!
 

p_rehbein

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The VERY FIRST Sermon Jesus preached:

Matthew 4:

17) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

............ as well ........

Leviticus 17:11, 14 (cp. Deuteronomy 12:23) “For the life of the flesh
is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an
atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement
for the soul…. For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life
thereof …”

Hebrews 9:22 “Without the shedding of blood, there is
no remission of sins.”

1 John 1:7″… the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth
us from all sin.”

Exodus 12:13 “… and when I see the blood, I will pass over
you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you,
when I smite the land of Egypt.”

Revelation 12:11 “And they overcame him (Satan) by the blood
of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony …”

Hebrews 9:14 “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who
through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God,
purge your conscience …

Hebrews 10:19, 22 “Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter
into the holiest by the blood of Jesus … Let us draw near with a true
heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an
evil conscience …”

Hebrews 13:12 “Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify
the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.”

Romans 3:24-25 “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”

Romans 5:9 “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.”

1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Luke 13:3 - I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.


Acts 3:19 - Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;


2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Matthew 3:2 - And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.


Acts 17:30 - And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:


Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 - Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. (Read More...)


Matthew 3:8 - Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:


Luke 13:5 - I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.


John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


Romans 10:13 - For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.


John 8:24 - I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Precious friend(s). God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

(2) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE thy neighbor as thyself!"
(
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(3) "Study" HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, for "Approval!"
(
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward, ruling, and reigning With CHRIST!

Precious friend(s): Please Be Very Richly Blessed!
“believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST,”


Does this include believing what he said about eternal salvation also ?
 

Blik

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Hyper grace?

Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

Here, lemme fix thissin' for ya:

all sins forgiven where one asks for forgiveness, Eternal Life, and , peace with God.

the precious blood of Jesus cleanses us of our sins and makes us worthy to be called the children of God and heirs to the Promise. However, one must repent and ASK for forgiveness of their sins in order for the blood to be applied.

(IMO)
Through Christ it we become like a person who obeys every law and live a life of a righteous man, we are wiped clean of every sin. Such glory and freedom!
 
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“believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST,”
Does this include believing what he said about eternal salvation also ?
It is Already ALL-Inclusive In HIM:

Joh_17:3 "And This Is Life Eternal, that they might know Thee
The only True God, And JESUS CHRIST, Whom Thou Hast Sent."

1Jn_5:20 "And we know that The SON Of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know HIM That Is True, and we are In HIM That
Is True, even in His SON JESUS CHRIST. This Is The True God, And Eternal Life."


Amen!
 
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God's Simple Will - UPDATED version:

Precious friend(s), is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing
God's Differences Between "HIS Relationship With us," And
"our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With those who humbly:
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS
Precious And ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:


All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY of sin!}
Justification First, And, THEN:


(2) The believer SHOULD do "good works" {Which will NEVER
EQUAL CHRIST's TOTAL
PAYMENT For the above PENALTY of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM,
having "been Called into
fellowship With HIM!" Amen?:

We "work out OUR OWN salvation" {This SHOULD Be a
lifetime of DELIVERANCE From the POWER of sin!}
Sanctification:

(2a) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor
as yourself!" (
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(2b) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show
yourself
Approved Unto God! (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!),
ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will FINALLY Be At
The Judgment Day:


(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE of sin!}
Amen?

----------------------------------
Conclusion:

BIG Differences Between God's Relationship And our fellowship!
Correct?

Precious friend(s): Please Be Very Richly Blessed!
 

Blik

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It is Already ALL-Inclusive In HIM:

Joh_17:3 "And This Is Life Eternal, that they might know Thee
The only True God, And JESUS CHRIST, Whom Thou Hast Sent."


1Jn_5:20 "And we know that The SON Of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know HIM That Is True, and we are In HIM That
Is True, even in His SON JESUS CHRIST. This Is The True God, And Eternal Life."


Amen!
Are you saying that Christ would deny the verse saying that after salvation, Christ will judge us based on our work to determine our rewards? If that is what you are saying then that would say that scripture is not scripture, we could not depend on it.
 
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“believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST,”
Does this include believing what he said about eternal salvation also ?
Bible Answer:
It is Already ALL-Inclusive In HIM:

Joh_17:3 "And This Is Life Eternal, that they might know Thee
The only True God, And JESUS CHRIST, Whom Thou Hast Sent."


1Jn_5:20 "And we know that The SON Of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know HIM That Is True, and we are In HIM That
Is True, even in His SON JESUS CHRIST. This Is The True God, And Eternal Life."


Amen!
Are you saying that Christ would deny the verse saying that after salvation, Christ will judge us based on our work to determine our rewards?
CHRIST "Revealed To Paul, In The Mystery," After Salvation,
His Bible Answer
to this question:

Will we {Saved By HIS BLOOD} receive reward, according to our "labour"?:

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and
every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
For we are labourers together with God:
ye are God's husbandry, ye
are God's building.

According to The GRACE Of God Which Is Given unto me, as a wise
masterbuilder, I have laid The Foundation, and another buildeth
Thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth Thereupon.

For other foundation can no man lay than That Is Laid, Which Is JESUS CHRIST.
Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones,
wood, hay, stubble;

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The {JUDGMENT} Day Shall
Declare
it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try Every
man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built
Thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
If any man's work shall be burned,
he shall suffer loss: but he himself Shall Be Saved; yet so as by fire."
(1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!)

So, no, I do not deny, But Yes, I Do believe, HIS Word Of Truth, to me.

Be Blessed!
 

Pilgrimshope

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It is Already ALL-Inclusive In HIM:

Joh_17:3 "And This Is Life Eternal, that they might know Thee
The only True God, And JESUS CHRIST, Whom Thou Hast Sent."


1Jn_5:20 "And we know that The SON Of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know HIM That Is True, and we are In HIM That
Is True, even in His SON JESUS CHRIST. This Is The True God, And Eternal Life."


Amen!
what do you do with the words of Jesus Christ our lord ?
 
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Hyper grace?

Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

Here, lemme fix thissin' for ya:

all sins forgiven where one asks for forgiveness, Eternal Life, and , peace with God.

the precious blood of Jesus cleanses us of our sins and makes us worthy to be called the children of God and heirs to the Promise. However, one must repent and ASK for forgiveness of their sins in order for the blood to be applied.

(IMO)
Legalism at its finest.

God will only forgive me if I do something (works of the flesh)
 
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Pilgrimshope

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Bible Answer:



CHRIST "Revealed To Paul, In The Mystery," After Salvation,
His Bible Answer
to this question:

Will we {Saved By HIS BLOOD} receive reward, according to our "labour"?:

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and
every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
For we are labourers together with God:
ye are God's husbandry, ye
are God's building.

According to The GRACE Of God Which Is Given unto me, as a wise
masterbuilder, I have laid The Foundation, and another buildeth
Thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth Thereupon.

For other foundation can no man lay than That Is Laid, Which Is JESUS CHRIST.
Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones,
wood, hay, stubble;

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The {JUDGMENT} Day Shall
Declare
it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try Every
man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built
Thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
If any man's work shall be burned,
he shall suffer loss: but he himself Shall Be Saved; yet so as by fire."
(1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!)

So, no, I do not deny, But Yes, I Do believe, HIS Word Of Truth, to me.

Be Blessed!
then why do you spend your time denying what he said and grabbing sentences out of Paul’s context ? Can you acknowledge the words of God ? That they are true ?

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods Grace is meant to teach us aboit repentance and upright living , lovong the good works

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Grave that actually came from God includes repentance from doing evil and doing good in this world , looking forward in hope and becoming zealous of good works being redeemed from iniquity

then there’s another form of grace distortion that omits all Of the truth of Christ

“For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭

This grace teaches people about not hearing the word of God and just claiming salvetion by grace apart from the truth . This grace tells
Us nothing to ever do God doesn’t expect anything of you , you can never be condemned now live free and don’t believe what Jesus said just claim unwarranted favor .


Paul warns us thoroughly about what we have to repent of and what we have to begin to walk in or like them who were saved but then later destroyed we aren’t going to have any inheritance
 
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doesn’t Jesus teach us about how God forgives ? And what’s required of us ? And we’re supposed to
Believe him ?
When they asked Jesus was work they were required to do

Jesus responded. "It is the work of God that we believe in the one he sent"
 

Mem

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The arguments concerning this topic are reconciled at the Pool of Bethesda when after healing the invalid, Jesus told him, "Go, and sin no more (I receive as said in regard to the degree) lest a worse thing come upon you." Now, although it might be argued that Jesus said this in a threatening manner, I don't particularly agree that to be the nature in which Jesus said this. Rather, it would seem to me that it is more characteristic of Him to express concern rather than in threat, as the antonyms for threating are guarding, protecting, safeguarding. And so, I conclude, though we are set completely free from the condemnation of sin, only in the world to come will we be totally free of its influence.
 

Nehemiah6

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Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
I am in general agreement with you other than this. That should be "past sins forgiven". Please note: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God (Rom 3:25)

When a person repents and believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, all past sins are forgiven and all guilt is removed. However, since every Christian is not sinlessly perfect from that point, believers will need to address future sins. And they will be forgiven upon confession and repentance. See 1 John 1 & 2.
 

Blik

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Bible Answer:



CHRIST "Revealed To Paul, In The Mystery," After Salvation,
His Bible Answer
to this question:

Will we {Saved By HIS BLOOD} receive reward, according to our "labour"?:

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and
every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
For we are labourers together with God:
ye are God's husbandry, ye
are God's building.

According to The GRACE Of God Which Is Given unto me, as a wise
masterbuilder, I have laid The Foundation, and another buildeth
Thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth Thereupon.

For other foundation can no man lay than That Is Laid, Which Is JESUS CHRIST.
Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones,
wood, hay, stubble;

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The {JUDGMENT} Day Shall
Declare
it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try Every
man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built
Thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
If any man's work shall be burned,
he shall suffer loss: but he himself Shall Be Saved; yet so as by fire."
(1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!)

So, no, I do not deny, But Yes, I Do believe, HIS Word Of Truth, to me.

Be Blessed!
No one can every say that it is according to our labor that the Lord gives grace, the Lord Himself told us so. But the Lord ALSO told us that sin kills, the Lord told us so. When we sin and it is unforgiven, we die. The Lord says. And anything saying that because of "eternal grace" that is not so is contradicting that Lord. The Lord tells us we need to repent, the Lord says so. The Lord says if He forgives, then we need to also forgive. The Lord tells us so. Don't contradict the Lord.