Halloween, do you celebrate it or not?
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All hallows eve is of occult origin. The practices of Halloween mostly come from Celtic paganism in the British Isles, and their feast of Samhain, the new year. They believed it was the time when ghosts and spirits came out to haunt, and the Celts would appease the spirits by giving them treats.
Semiramis claimed our natural world seemed to show people
obvious parallels to Nimrod’s “rebirth” - such as how sunlight begins to be
longer upon the earth, fertility increased in animals, plants would begin to
bloom, etc. If one noticed, this whole time of “renewal” or
“retransformation” – on both natural and supernatural levels – were to be
accredited to the power of the sun (the physical sun, as well as the
supernatural sun-god). These both seemed to be the source of life and heat
in both of our worlds.
Now, at the time of Halloween, there’s a different side to the story - the
"back end" of it, if you will. Now, pagans would celebrate the opposite
conditions of both worlds, here: not the beginning of life, but the beginning
of death. As one might guess, the time period of Halloween was to be set
around the time of year when daylight – or the sun’s contribution to our
natural world - would noticeably become less and less. Plants and animals
would seem to be considered “dying,” in ways - preparing to face the
upcoming cold and darkness of winter.
The Babylonian Connection to Halloween
Semiramis claimed our natural world seemed to show people
obvious parallels to Nimrod’s “rebirth” - such as how sunlight begins to be
longer upon the earth, fertility increased in animals, plants would begin to
bloom, etc. If one noticed, this whole time of “renewal” or
“retransformation” – on both natural and supernatural levels – were to be
accredited to the power of the sun (the physical sun, as well as the
supernatural sun-god). These both seemed to be the source of life and heat
in both of our worlds.
Now, at the time of Halloween, there’s a different side to the story - the
"back end" of it, if you will. Now, pagans would celebrate the opposite
conditions of both worlds, here: not the beginning of life, but the beginning
of death. As one might guess, the time period of Halloween was to be set
around the time of year when daylight – or the sun’s contribution to our
natural world - would noticeably become less and less. Plants and animals
would seem to be considered “dying,” in ways - preparing to face the
upcoming cold and darkness of winter.
The Babylonian Connection to Halloween
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Halloween is not one of my favorite holidays... we used to have costume parties for adults with out work associates, but it was too much bother to dress up, and they usually included too many drunks per capita... I have limits on how many I can tolerate at any given time.
We hand out candy at home, and also participate in our church's "Trunk or Treat" in the building's parking lot... that is a lot of fun.
Personally, I prefer having kids dress up in "fun" costumes, instead of witches, etc... but that's just me.
Was it originally a pagan celebration? Yep.
But, since I'm NOT a pagan, or a Druid, I don't celebrate it as such.
We hand out candy at home, and also participate in our church's "Trunk or Treat" in the building's parking lot... that is a lot of fun.
Personally, I prefer having kids dress up in "fun" costumes, instead of witches, etc... but that's just me.
Was it originally a pagan celebration? Yep.
But, since I'm NOT a pagan, or a Druid, I don't celebrate it as such.
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I think this year I will celebrate it by sitting down and having myself a chocolate bar...or chocolate in some form...that I will likely have purchased somewhere.
Maybe I'll dress up as Yoda before I sit down.
Did he like chocolate?
Hmmm I thought Halloween was taking from mexico...
celebrating the day of the dead.
You learn something everyday. *(Those darn Celtic...yet again) Christmas trees... will wait for that topic to reappear...
As for me.... I used to loved dressing up... making costumes....
Well more like MacGyver'ing a costume.
But now its not for me... I'm lead to not celebrate it or participate in any way...
................ But I have bought the little chocolate bars in the reduce bin.
celebrating the day of the dead.
You learn something everyday.
*(Those darn Celtic...yet again) Christmas trees... will wait for that topic to reappear...As for me.... I used to loved dressing up... making costumes....
Well more like MacGyver'ing a costume.
But now its not for me... I'm lead to not celebrate it or participate in any way...
................ But I have bought the little chocolate bars in the reduce bin.
Tis good usage by the prince of darkness to pass along this "tradition of man" to our children..Doncha think? Whether pagan, or occultic in its origins, the prince of darkness, via his spirit of anti christ to pollute, or euphemize it to, or in the eyes of believers, the prince of this world, smirks with that **edited** on his face.
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I’m going to hold off before “weighing in” – it’s way too early J
Suffice to say that most supposed origins of the holiday are wishful thinking at best. Virtually all our modern Halloween traditions come from right here in the good ol’ USA and date no earlier than the early 1900’s. There are a very few vestigial remnants from pre-Christian times (mainly from Pomona celebrations brought to the Celtic lands by the Romans)
Yes, the original holiday is Samhain/Samhuain/Sauin (depending on where you’re from; Ireland, Scotland, or Man - though Man also has Hop Tu Naa), but , as mentioned, most traditions supposedly associated with it are wishful thinking from particular churches/pastors with an agenda with “research” so shoddy, it’s scary (pun intended).
For those not born in this country, the American holiday of Halloween must be a curiously strange thing indeed! Something like modern Halloween, when it’s so intrinsically not at all a part of one’s cultural heritage, must be somewhat confusing and hard to grasp. I imagine it would be something like trying to get all of America to celebrate say, the Hindu festival ‘Diwali’ – sure, we could all do it, but hardly anyone would really understand it; it’s not part of our culture. Sadly, American cultural holidays have a funny way of permeating most other cultures, I mean, is Halloween really celebrated in Asia?? Seriously?? Does it really need to be??? Why???? I suspect for the sole purpose of generating lots of revenue for someone somewhere.
Samhain/Halloween is to some people a very spiritual and magickal time of the year; for some it’s a time of fun and candy, perhaps a way to celebrate Fall in general; others perhaps are not quite sure what to make of it and prefer to steer clear of it, but however you wish to celebrate it….or not – Halloween is only ‘evil’ if one chooses to make it so.
Suffice to say that most supposed origins of the holiday are wishful thinking at best. Virtually all our modern Halloween traditions come from right here in the good ol’ USA and date no earlier than the early 1900’s. There are a very few vestigial remnants from pre-Christian times (mainly from Pomona celebrations brought to the Celtic lands by the Romans)
Yes, the original holiday is Samhain/Samhuain/Sauin (depending on where you’re from; Ireland, Scotland, or Man - though Man also has Hop Tu Naa), but , as mentioned, most traditions supposedly associated with it are wishful thinking from particular churches/pastors with an agenda with “research” so shoddy, it’s scary (pun intended).
For those not born in this country, the American holiday of Halloween must be a curiously strange thing indeed! Something like modern Halloween, when it’s so intrinsically not at all a part of one’s cultural heritage, must be somewhat confusing and hard to grasp. I imagine it would be something like trying to get all of America to celebrate say, the Hindu festival ‘Diwali’ – sure, we could all do it, but hardly anyone would really understand it; it’s not part of our culture. Sadly, American cultural holidays have a funny way of permeating most other cultures, I mean, is Halloween really celebrated in Asia?? Seriously?? Does it really need to be??? Why???? I suspect for the sole purpose of generating lots of revenue for someone somewhere.
Samhain/Halloween is to some people a very spiritual and magickal time of the year; for some it’s a time of fun and candy, perhaps a way to celebrate Fall in general; others perhaps are not quite sure what to make of it and prefer to steer clear of it, but however you wish to celebrate it….or not – Halloween is only ‘evil’ if one chooses to make it so.
I'm for putting an end to the waste of pumpkins. We need a ban on pumpkin chunking, and Jack-o-lanterns. One pumpkin can feed a family of four for up to a week.
Dressing your children up and and sending them begging for candy doesn't seem like a good thing for responsible adults to do. Do you really need candy that badly?
Dressing your children up and and sending them begging for candy doesn't seem like a good thing for responsible adults to do. Do you really need candy that badly?
No, I don't celebrate because is not the Lord's tradition. KJVDeuteronomy6;14-15 14. Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you; 15. (For the Lord thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the Lord thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
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Sadly, they did ban punkin' chunkin'. One of my bucket lists things, I still hope to fulfill in the future.
(A good punkin' chunkin' video.)
[video=youtube;dmSyrGsqmg8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmSyrGsqmg8[/video]
But I did something smart (maybe) a few years ago. We don't pass out candy (cost too much living in the city), nor do we decorate, but our neighbors did. And they kept several pumpkins until after Thanksgiving. I knew they were going to throw them out, so I asked for them. And they were happy to get rid of them with no effort.
I baked them up, had enough for a pie and a couple of dozen pumpkin muffins. Then I gave them hafl the muffins.
It was fun, but... no way! I'm way passed the strength to lift that kind of weight in and out of the oven. Canned pumpkin for us now. lol
As for dressing up kids because of a need for candy?
Wait! You don't need candy?
(A good punkin' chunkin' video.)
[video=youtube;dmSyrGsqmg8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmSyrGsqmg8[/video]
But I did something smart (maybe) a few years ago. We don't pass out candy (cost too much living in the city), nor do we decorate, but our neighbors did. And they kept several pumpkins until after Thanksgiving. I knew they were going to throw them out, so I asked for them. And they were happy to get rid of them with no effort.
I baked them up, had enough for a pie and a couple of dozen pumpkin muffins. Then I gave them hafl the muffins.
It was fun, but... no way! I'm way passed the strength to lift that kind of weight in and out of the oven. Canned pumpkin for us now. lol
As for dressing up kids because of a need for candy?
Wait! You don't need candy?