I would like you to find where I said I was a co savior as in I can initiate salvation myself. Its funny because this website is called Christian chat but should say something else, it should say Calvinism chat. Yall seem to forget Christians have different denominations but I suppose yall are superior and very prideful to the point yall insult, mock, and act like yall have all the answers.
Yall are like twice as old as me and in need of some maturing.
I have the same bible, I know how to pray and I also know how to treat others with respect.
As my generation would say haters going to hate.
I could explain it to you too but everyone is quick to speak, quick to anger, and do not listen.
So fast to judge and no time to think.
We would rather focus on Jesus saving grace but the only reason we speak against OSAS is because Matthew, and Hebrews speaks against it. We cant just use some scripture and deny others. What yall need to ask yourselves is does God force you to do anything? Are you a vessel and Holy Spirit has complete control? What happens when you sin daily? Is that the holy spirit too? Or do you shrug it off because your already saved and all the lessons in the bible on teaching us to be more like Christ is only for the sinners?
Why does scripture tell us to keep in step with the Spirit and that we must follow the Spirit? Galatians 5:16 and Galatians 5:25.
Doesn't the spirit seal us into our eternal home? So why must we actively keep in step with the Spirit if it is all-controlling.
Galatians 6:1 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.
Uh oh how can someone be caught in sin and then need restoration? If their already saved what harm will it do?
I am truly sorry if I am not coming across as loving. I DO need to remember that I thought very similar to you in regards to my walk with the Lord and Salvation.
Having said that, and seeing the generational differences on what it means to "hate" (Many in your generation equate disagreement or correction with hate), I will post just ONE of the statements you made that relies on YOUR performance to maintain Salvation.
This is from your post # 226 "
As long as we follow, no one can take eternal life from you. If we choose to follow our own desires, no where in scripture does it say we are forced by God to never be able to backslide and fall away. The spirit is our seal and if we do not walk in the spirit. We are again under the law."
You are in essence saying here that your walk is determinate for your Salvation, and then adding more confusion by saying we are sealed, but WE can break that seal.
Our logical minds come to the conclusion that if we say God's Grace is sufficient for ALL our sin, then we are saying that it's ok to sin. This makes logical sense, right?
Well, as I posted earlier, Paul has very harsh words for those that say exactly that! Romans 3:
8 [FONT="]And [/FONT]why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just.
Grace is counter-intuitive to the human mind. It is UNMERITED favor toward us. Now, you will NEVER hear me say that sin is EVER "ok"!!
Their are always consequences to sin. Even for the regenerated Christian. We can lose our health, our families, our jobs, even our mortal lives, AND probably worst of all, God may not use us to bring others to Christ, affecting our eternal rewards. There many be many of the least in the Kingdom of God.
But Jesus paid the price, once and for all, for the PENALTY of sin, which is eternal death.
Lastly, once the revelation from the Holy Spirit comes regarding Grace, WE SIN LESS! I know. Totally counter-intuitive!
I can affirm that once that revelation occurred for me that was the result.
So take heart. I don't hate you in the slightest! I love you, AND your zeal to please God. May He bless you and your family!