How do I get to the point where I'm not so scared of crap, acutally having joy, and
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There were days that I had to pick myself up off the floor, literally. It was easier to lay on the floor then even climb on to the bed. I was so scared and depressed. And I knew that God was there and I kept thinking, why wont he answer me, why is he so cruel, why me? I had such a crappy childhood and young adulthood, why me? WHen have I paid enough that GOd will stop punishing me?
All these things I thought and more. Anger and defeat were my friends. It took a long, long time for me to get even to where I am now. Part of it is, you have to just keep doing it. Which sounds so stupid when you say it but its true. All those things that you think nah, or I dont feel like it, or I am to scared, you have to just do them. Even if its one thing a day. Or one thing every two days.
Eventually your body will respond even if your mind doesnt. And any little accomplishment is one step closer to you.
Now as far as spiritual matters go. Many, so many people have had their lives ruined and climbed up out of the ashes to keep surviving. And God has always been there, ALWAYS. When we are angry at him, when we are so sad we can not breathe, when we are so scared we are frozen. When we are sinning, and when we are praising him, and even when we are running as fast as we can away from him. He is there.
I know that it doesnt seem like he is there. Trust me, I have been to the bottom and back up so many times. And I still today feel like I am one step from the edge. But it doesnt matter. Top or bottom, God is always there. He knows it all. So have faith, and when you feel like you cant take one more step, or one more breath alone, pray to God for more faith.
Debbie
All these things I thought and more. Anger and defeat were my friends. It took a long, long time for me to get even to where I am now. Part of it is, you have to just keep doing it. Which sounds so stupid when you say it but its true. All those things that you think nah, or I dont feel like it, or I am to scared, you have to just do them. Even if its one thing a day. Or one thing every two days.
Eventually your body will respond even if your mind doesnt. And any little accomplishment is one step closer to you.
Now as far as spiritual matters go. Many, so many people have had their lives ruined and climbed up out of the ashes to keep surviving. And God has always been there, ALWAYS. When we are angry at him, when we are so sad we can not breathe, when we are so scared we are frozen. When we are sinning, and when we are praising him, and even when we are running as fast as we can away from him. He is there.
I know that it doesnt seem like he is there. Trust me, I have been to the bottom and back up so many times. And I still today feel like I am one step from the edge. But it doesnt matter. Top or bottom, God is always there. He knows it all. So have faith, and when you feel like you cant take one more step, or one more breath alone, pray to God for more faith.
Debbie
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Fear is from satan, and can be a spirit of fear.
FEAR, is; =False Expectations Appearing Real!
it is a negative emotion, like its sister worry.
God Says, in The bible, "Fear not" some 1,400 times.
The bible says "God is love, & perfect love, casts out all fear...
For fear hath torment..."
Also; "The righteous are as bold as a lion, and feareth not."
God has given you Salvation, in Jesus name!
Get you self forgiven, Righteous, and covered in the blood of Jesus!
through prayer; make an application to the cross, for Jesus to forgive you, cleanse you, cover you in hs precous blood.
"They overcame satan, by the word of their testimony, and by the power of the blood, of Jesus!"
Also "The weapons, of our warfare, are not carnal, but are mighty of God, to the pulling down of thoughts, Arguments, pretentons, divsons, that come against, the kingdom of God. against the Christian mind...
Also "Put on therefore, the full armour, of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil...
This Armour is your protection...
take up the sheild of faith, which can extinguish all the fiery darts of the evil one...
take up the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God...
cut that devil down with his lying fears!...
Jesus says behold I give unto you power, & authority, to trample upon scorpions & snakes, & to overcome all the power of the enemy...
Also Be strong in the Lord, & in the power of his might...
Get Baptised in the Holy Ghost, and you shall be filled with Gods Spirit & have no more fear! But peace, love, joy & boldness in Jesus
Fear not therefore, speak to your fear tell it to go,...
Take authority over it, Command that lying spirit to go, in Jesus name! and it shall go!!....
And you shall have no fear !!!
FEAR, is; =False Expectations Appearing Real!
it is a negative emotion, like its sister worry.
God Says, in The bible, "Fear not" some 1,400 times.
The bible says "God is love, & perfect love, casts out all fear...
For fear hath torment..."
Also; "The righteous are as bold as a lion, and feareth not."
God has given you Salvation, in Jesus name!
Get you self forgiven, Righteous, and covered in the blood of Jesus!
through prayer; make an application to the cross, for Jesus to forgive you, cleanse you, cover you in hs precous blood.
"They overcame satan, by the word of their testimony, and by the power of the blood, of Jesus!"
Also "The weapons, of our warfare, are not carnal, but are mighty of God, to the pulling down of thoughts, Arguments, pretentons, divsons, that come against, the kingdom of God. against the Christian mind...
Also "Put on therefore, the full armour, of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil...
This Armour is your protection...
take up the sheild of faith, which can extinguish all the fiery darts of the evil one...
take up the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God...
cut that devil down with his lying fears!...
Jesus says behold I give unto you power, & authority, to trample upon scorpions & snakes, & to overcome all the power of the enemy...
Also Be strong in the Lord, & in the power of his might...
Get Baptised in the Holy Ghost, and you shall be filled with Gods Spirit & have no more fear! But peace, love, joy & boldness in Jesus
Fear not therefore, speak to your fear tell it to go,...
Take authority over it, Command that lying spirit to go, in Jesus name! and it shall go!!....
And you shall have no fear !!!
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Brian,
Can I call you Brian? I just feel it's a bit more personal that way. When I struggled with the same thing that you did I didn't realize how much of it was a spiritual problem more than a problem with myself. I used to struggle with depression, social anxiety, fear, etc.. all the time and couldn't shake it.
A mentor of mine met with me and suggested that I allow him to do deliverance prayer with me in case my problem was being caused by the demonic realm. It was in fact being caused by afflicting spirits that followed me around because of the self-pity I hung on to. I found that afflicting spirits can not only make you fearful and depressed but had the power to actually cause chemical imbalances in my brain that made the problem seem permanent.
After getting deliverance prayer I noticed that I didn't struggle with it at all anymore for weeks. But it came back. When my mentor heard that I was ok for a couple of weeks then it came back, we knew it was a spiritual problem and not a natural problem(the afflicting spirits came back). We prayed together one more time and took authority over the demonic realm in the Name of Jesus and I have been free ever since. I have felt depressed at random times, but he showed me how the demonic realm knew how to "push buttons" in me so to speak to manifest the desired emotion in me. I learned that I have control over what emotions I entertain, and that as long as I don't agree with the afflicting spirits that it is still a problem that I am struggling with, they eventually give up and I can live in peace and joy.
The key to this is what you allow to manifest in your mind. A fruit of the Holy Spirit is self-control. Despite what the enemy has taught you, as a Christian you have complete control of your thoughts and what emotions you allow to be entertained inside of you. Self-Control allows you to control you, rather than your thoughts or emotions controlling you.
Hopefully this makes sense.
I don't know where you live, but here is a link for you to consider:
http://www.bethelsozo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14&Itemid=28
This ministry has helped me tremendously in this area, to truly recognize what is going on inside of me, and to connect with God intimately.
Much Love,
Matthew
Can I call you Brian? I just feel it's a bit more personal that way. When I struggled with the same thing that you did I didn't realize how much of it was a spiritual problem more than a problem with myself. I used to struggle with depression, social anxiety, fear, etc.. all the time and couldn't shake it.
A mentor of mine met with me and suggested that I allow him to do deliverance prayer with me in case my problem was being caused by the demonic realm. It was in fact being caused by afflicting spirits that followed me around because of the self-pity I hung on to. I found that afflicting spirits can not only make you fearful and depressed but had the power to actually cause chemical imbalances in my brain that made the problem seem permanent.
After getting deliverance prayer I noticed that I didn't struggle with it at all anymore for weeks. But it came back. When my mentor heard that I was ok for a couple of weeks then it came back, we knew it was a spiritual problem and not a natural problem(the afflicting spirits came back). We prayed together one more time and took authority over the demonic realm in the Name of Jesus and I have been free ever since. I have felt depressed at random times, but he showed me how the demonic realm knew how to "push buttons" in me so to speak to manifest the desired emotion in me. I learned that I have control over what emotions I entertain, and that as long as I don't agree with the afflicting spirits that it is still a problem that I am struggling with, they eventually give up and I can live in peace and joy.
The key to this is what you allow to manifest in your mind. A fruit of the Holy Spirit is self-control. Despite what the enemy has taught you, as a Christian you have complete control of your thoughts and what emotions you allow to be entertained inside of you. Self-Control allows you to control you, rather than your thoughts or emotions controlling you.
Hopefully this makes sense.
I don't know where you live, but here is a link for you to consider:
http://www.bethelsozo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14&Itemid=28
This ministry has helped me tremendously in this area, to truly recognize what is going on inside of me, and to connect with God intimately.
Much Love,
Matthew
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How do I get to the point where I'm not so scared of crap, acutally having joy, and not being so negitive? I'm just tired of being like this, and it seems like nothing I'm doing help me out. Even talking to God isn't help me out a all...
You purpose to believe that it's not 'all about you', but ALL about Him. You choose to Believe what you read in His word and what it says about you. You obey and KNOW that because of your DESIRE (do you really desire??) to know Him, His will and His ways, and His great love for you...you KNOW that He always has your best interests in mind....and that it is YOU that gets in the way of Him doing HIs best for you!
Maggie
You TALK to God...but do you LISTEN?? He speaks in many ways!
You purpose to believe that it's not 'all about you', but ALL about Him. You choose to Believe what you read in His word and what it says about you. You obey and KNOW that because of your DESIRE (do you really desire??) to know Him, His will and His ways, and His great love for you...you KNOW that He always has your best interests in mind....and that it is YOU that gets in the way of Him doing HIs best for you!
Maggie
You TALK to God...but do you LISTEN?? He speaks in many ways!
G
Ask him about taking flax seed oil or flax seed, for treating bi-polar it takes allot over time but it evens highs and lows out, I take it and it works for me. Doing all the Bible things is great but you need to do physical things as well. I go bicycling to the next town and make a day of it, I see the farms and sky and fresh air, it does a world of good. I also like taking my Bible to the river and sit on the beach away from everything listening to music or praying. I sometimes take takeout chineese food and eat it there. I go on walks at night and look at the stars and have the town to myself.
It is something you have to keep working at to stay out of depression but the battle is a winning one depression gets weaker and weaker over time.
It is something you have to keep working at to stay out of depression but the battle is a winning one depression gets weaker and weaker over time.
G
My brother used to have big problems with depression and fear, he wouldn't even leave the house except for getting food. he limited himself to stay in town, had a collection of huge knives under his bed and big cleaver and had pains in his body and threatened to chop his hand off ( I think he was serious) once he was going to starve himself to death, he was on the sixth day and told me what he was doing and I told him about where the praise "made it by the skin of his teeth" came from that its a Bible term when people were starving the last thing to go before death the teeth would start falling out. He has perfect teeth so that left starving to death out because he didn't want his teeth to fall out.Those were trying times to say the least. This is just a small sample but now hes doing great he goes out more than most people. It took years and it was very small steps but my mom and I got him out little by little, he also had great un-forgiveness for his former boss, he finally forgave or at least gave up the right to be angry and that helped allot. Many times it looked hopeless but it got better in very small steps. He also is much more bold than he used to be.
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Comments on this topic are not going to help you.
It is sort of like asking people why someone broke up with you - it seems like an answer is all we need, but the answers provided never seem accurate and certain do not satisfy the mind.
If you have never experience real, clinical depression, you cannot provide the help he needs - actually, if if you have experienced it you cannot help him online.
It is sort of like asking people why someone broke up with you - it seems like an answer is all we need, but the answers provided never seem accurate and certain do not satisfy the mind.
If you have never experience real, clinical depression, you cannot provide the help he needs - actually, if if you have experienced it you cannot help him online.
Go on a holiday with a buncha blind people or dissabled people,Go on a holiday with yourself,I heard you whining about girl friends steady asking God to give you one,Yet he already gave you women,Now all of a sudden its God's fault you cant get one.Try this become a good person.Stop thinking there is some elite class of human beings with no problems,We all have problems.
You think you got it tuff,Check out some others that are starving to death,and go help them.Goto the hospital and speak hope to a 10 year old with cancer but I tell you this most likey he will set you straight with faith.
Grow up.
Love a friend in God
You think you got it tuff,Check out some others that are starving to death,and go help them.Goto the hospital and speak hope to a 10 year old with cancer but I tell you this most likey he will set you straight with faith.
Grow up.
Love a friend in God
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S
I know you are having medication problems, and I know you are working on them so I wont tell you to call your doctor. But, if you feel like talking to God isnt helping you then I would suggest you talk to him MORE.
Pray more, read the Bible more. Take your medicing, Go to the doctor and psychiatrist and put one foot in front of the other. Every day.
I am praying for you.
Debbie
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I was once in the same boat as you and asked many of the same questions. The following is what God did for me. By the way, I was 55 years old when called me to full time ministry.
Ephesians 2:10
“For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”
I believe this verse very strongly because it has been the foundation for my ministry. The verse plainly states that God has prepared good works for us to do. I also believe that as part of that preparation, He has also prepared us for those good works. Let me explain; I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior at the age of 16 at a Billy Grade crusade in Bakersfield, Ca. I also became an alcoholic at the age of 18. I spent 10 years in the bottle as a binge drinker.
During that time I faced serious issues in my marriage to the point of telling my wife that if she were to die, I wouldn’t care. I have no idea why she stayed with me, but she did. I also became very angry! I was angry at my wife, myself and at God. I became depressed and had little or no self esteem. I began to wonder if I had any purpose. I would go about my job in a fog doing only what was necessary to get by. During this time I served in both the U.S. Navy and the U. S. Air Force. I had married my wife while stationed in Jacksonville, Fla. After my last deployment, I told her that I was going home to California and she could go or stay. I became totally self-absorbed and cared little about anybody else. This was my state of mind. Between the drinking which started out as periodic binges and eventually became almost weekly endeavors and the selfish behavior, I am surprised that God allowed me to live.
It was in 1974 that God began to bring me back to Him. I will not go into all the details of my journey back to my fellowship with God but I will say that it has not always been easy because I had a lot of junk to get rid of. One of the worst was the thoughts of suicide while stationed in Panama. I had again given up on God. As I was contemplating jumping 300 feet into the canal, I heard God’s voice. His word’s to me were as clear as a bell and as soft as a whisper. He said; “Why have you given up on Me when I haven’t given up on you?” His message was clear to me. If I trusted Him, He would bring me through whatever problems I faced. This became my clarion call to put my trust in Him alone.
I allowed God to lead me and I wish I could say that I was always obedient to His will but I can’t. The one thing that I did become aware of was that through all of this time when I had turned my back on God, God never turned His back on me. He saved me from many things that I should not have survived. I found that He truly had a plan for me. After taking a voluntary lay-off to go into full time ministry; God dumped a congregation in my lap and called me to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. What I did not know was that my congregation consisted of people that society had rejected. There were alcoholics, drug addicts, prostitutes, ex-cons, street kids and some active criminals.
This is where I learned of the import of Ephesians 2:10. God had allowed me to go through all of the trials in my life to prepare me for His good works. I was able to establish credence with the people of my congregation because they knew that I had gone through the same things myself. I was able to talk of how God had brought me back from the brink of death so that I could fulfill His plan for my life. They listened as I shared my testimony of shame. God had dealt with the anger, substance abuse, rejection, suicidal thoughts, marital issues, and selfishness so that He could effectively use the gospel to penetrate the hearts of a lost people. As a result of His work, I was used to lead 31 people to the Lord during my first two years of ministry. I cannot answer what would have happened to those beautiful souls if I had not answered God’s call to do what He had already prepared me for.
Let me finish this with a question for everyone. What has God prepared you for?
Ephesians 2:10
“For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”
I believe this verse very strongly because it has been the foundation for my ministry. The verse plainly states that God has prepared good works for us to do. I also believe that as part of that preparation, He has also prepared us for those good works. Let me explain; I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior at the age of 16 at a Billy Grade crusade in Bakersfield, Ca. I also became an alcoholic at the age of 18. I spent 10 years in the bottle as a binge drinker.
During that time I faced serious issues in my marriage to the point of telling my wife that if she were to die, I wouldn’t care. I have no idea why she stayed with me, but she did. I also became very angry! I was angry at my wife, myself and at God. I became depressed and had little or no self esteem. I began to wonder if I had any purpose. I would go about my job in a fog doing only what was necessary to get by. During this time I served in both the U.S. Navy and the U. S. Air Force. I had married my wife while stationed in Jacksonville, Fla. After my last deployment, I told her that I was going home to California and she could go or stay. I became totally self-absorbed and cared little about anybody else. This was my state of mind. Between the drinking which started out as periodic binges and eventually became almost weekly endeavors and the selfish behavior, I am surprised that God allowed me to live.
It was in 1974 that God began to bring me back to Him. I will not go into all the details of my journey back to my fellowship with God but I will say that it has not always been easy because I had a lot of junk to get rid of. One of the worst was the thoughts of suicide while stationed in Panama. I had again given up on God. As I was contemplating jumping 300 feet into the canal, I heard God’s voice. His word’s to me were as clear as a bell and as soft as a whisper. He said; “Why have you given up on Me when I haven’t given up on you?” His message was clear to me. If I trusted Him, He would bring me through whatever problems I faced. This became my clarion call to put my trust in Him alone.
I allowed God to lead me and I wish I could say that I was always obedient to His will but I can’t. The one thing that I did become aware of was that through all of this time when I had turned my back on God, God never turned His back on me. He saved me from many things that I should not have survived. I found that He truly had a plan for me. After taking a voluntary lay-off to go into full time ministry; God dumped a congregation in my lap and called me to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. What I did not know was that my congregation consisted of people that society had rejected. There were alcoholics, drug addicts, prostitutes, ex-cons, street kids and some active criminals.
This is where I learned of the import of Ephesians 2:10. God had allowed me to go through all of the trials in my life to prepare me for His good works. I was able to establish credence with the people of my congregation because they knew that I had gone through the same things myself. I was able to talk of how God had brought me back from the brink of death so that I could fulfill His plan for my life. They listened as I shared my testimony of shame. God had dealt with the anger, substance abuse, rejection, suicidal thoughts, marital issues, and selfishness so that He could effectively use the gospel to penetrate the hearts of a lost people. As a result of His work, I was used to lead 31 people to the Lord during my first two years of ministry. I cannot answer what would have happened to those beautiful souls if I had not answered God’s call to do what He had already prepared me for.
Let me finish this with a question for everyone. What has God prepared you for?