How do you interpret this parable ?

[Pilgrimshope]

What was Jesus teaching is the question of the parables of t he kingdom

“For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder,

which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.

And when he had agreed with the
labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.

And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you.

And they went their way.

Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.

And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive

So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.

And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.

But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.

And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.

But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭20:1-16‬ ‭

so what would you say Jesus is getting across with this parable ?



food for thought God bless

 

[MattforJesus]

What was Jesus teaching is the question of the parables of t he kingdom

“For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder,

which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.

And when he had agreed with the
labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.

And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you.

And they went their way.

Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.

And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive

So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.

And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.

But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.

And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.

But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭20:1-16‬ ‭

so what would you say Jesus is getting across with this parable ?



food for thought God bless

I believe it means that it does not matter if you have been living for Jesus for 20 years, or 10 years, or for one day, the reward is the same for all saints which is eternal life, and a saint that has been living for God longer than another saint does not get any greater of a reward concerning eternal life.

There will not be an authority structure of saints greater than saints because they followed Jesus and labored for the kingdom longer but all receive the same reward eternal life, and the same glorified body.

A good example is we hear people complain about people that have been living in sin their whole life and then when they are on their death bed they want to be saved, and some people think it is not fair that they have been living for the Lord for 20 years and this person only has to repent and want to be saved on his death bed and receives eternal life and the same reward, and it bothers them.

But it does not matter how long we have been living for the Lord it is the same reward like the parable of the people that labored longer than other people but the reward was the same one penny.

Php 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Luk 14:7 And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them,
Luk 14:8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him;
Luk 14:9 And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room.
Luk 14:10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.
Luk 14:11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

I understand many are called but few are chosen because not everyone that says Lord Lord will be able to dwell with Jesus but it might mean in this parable that those that complained they labored longer but it was the same wages as those that worked shorter might mean they were rebellious, and did not fellowship with the saints like they should maybe even thinking they were more deserving of better things from God for their longer labor or snubbing their nose at new converts thinking they were better than them with an attitude sit in the back of the Church but they are supposed to be humble.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I believe it means that it does not matter if you have been living for Jesus for 20 years, or 10 years, or for one day, the reward is the same for all saints which is eternal life, and a saint that has been living for God longer than another saint does not get any greater of a reward concerning eternal life.

There will not be an authority structure of saints greater than saints because they followed Jesus and labored for the kingdom longer but all receive the same reward eternal life, and the same glorified body.

A good example is we hear people complain about people that have been living in sin their whole life and then when they are on their death bed they want to be saved, and some people think it is not fair that they have been living for the Lord for 20 years and this person only has to repent and want to be saved on his death bed and receives eternal life and the same reward, and it bothers them.

But it does not matter how long we have been living for the Lord it is the same reward like the parable of the people that labored longer than other people but the reward was the same one penny.

Php 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Luk 14:7 And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them,
Luk 14:8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him;
Luk 14:9 And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room.
Luk 14:10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.
Luk 14:11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

I understand many are called but few are chosen because not everyone that says Lord Lord will be able to dwell with Jesus but it might mean in this parable that those that complained they labored longer but it was the same wages as those that worked shorter might mean they were rebellious, and did not fellowship with the saints like they should maybe even thinking they were more deserving of better things from God for their longer labor or snubbing their nose at new converts thinking they were better than them with an attitude sit in the back of the Church but they are supposed to be humble.

Thank you so much brother for all of the thorough thoughts I appreciate getting your view to consider God bless

one other thing I take is that the kingdom , salvation and belonging to him isn’t something any of us no matter if we sterted from the first get to decide who’s in or out but Jesus will do the deciding who gets what

 

[Nehemiah6]

so what would you say Jesus is getting across with this parable ?

You have to go to the last verse in the previous chapter to understand this parable: But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Jesus ended His parable with almost the exact same words" So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

When it comes to salvation, the nation of Israel and every Jew should have been the first to enter into the Kingdom of God. But in fact the majority of that nation rejected Christ, and all those who were regarded as "deplorables" or "undesirables" (primarily Gentiles and sinners) entered into the Kingdom by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Thus only "a few" (relatively) were chosen out of Israel to be saved.

Therefore the Jews who are saved after the Second Coming of Christ will indeed be "the last", since they will not be in the Church, the Body of Christ. They will be a part of redeemed and restored Israel on earth.

 

[oyster67]

What was Jesus teaching is the question of the parables of t he kingdom

“For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder,

which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.

And when he had agreed with the
labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.

And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you.

And they went their way.

Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.

And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive

So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.

And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.

But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.

And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.

But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭20:1-16‬ ‭

so what would you say Jesus is getting across with this parable ?



food for thought God bless

We are not to compare ourselves amongst ourselves. Do the best with what we are given and look not upon the things of others. Let not evil spirits of envy and jealousy creep in.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

You have to go to the last verse in the previous chapter to understand this parable: But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Jesus ended His parable with almost the exact same words" So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

When it comes to salvation, the nation of Israel and every Jew should have been the first to enter into the Kingdom of God. But in fact the majority of that nation rejected Christ, and all those who were regarded as "deplorables" or "undesirables" (primarily Gentiles and sinners) entered into the Kingdom by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Thus only "a few" (relatively) were chosen out of Israel to be saved.

Therefore the Jews who are saved after the Second Coming of Christ will indeed be "the last", since they will not be in the Church, the Body of Christ. They will be a part of redeemed and restored Israel on earth.

thanks for the good thoughts to consider and God bless bro

 

[Pilgrimshope]

We are not to compare ourselves amongst ourselves. Do the best with what we are given and look not upon the things of others. Let not evil spirits of envy and jealousy creep in.

thank you for the good thoughts to consider God bless brother

 

[CorrectiveLens]

What was Jesus teaching is the question of the parables of t he kingdom

“For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder,

which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.

And when he had agreed with the
labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.

And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you.

And they went their way.

Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.

And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive

So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.

And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.

But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.

And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.

But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭20:1-16‬ ‭

so what would you say Jesus is getting across with this parable ?



food for thought God bless

I agree that it doesn't matter when a person gets saved, all saved people will get the same reward. Many are called but few are chosen is referring to those that were upset because they expected more. They apparently were thinking in terms of reward for the amount of work they did which is what many so called Christians believe . Be good and God will reward you. These are people who work for the reward. They have a head knowledge of salvation and are expecting to be rewarded at the end. The chosen are those that are filled with God's Holy Spirit and work not for a reward but for love of God and People. It is the love of God that fills our hearts through His Spirit with the same love that He shares with Jesus.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I agree that it doesn't matter when a person gets saved, all saved people will get the same reward. Many are called but few are chosen is referring to those that were upset because they expected more. They apparently were thinking in terms of reward for the amount of work they did which is what many so called Christians believe . Be good and God will reward you. These are people who work for the reward. They have a head knowledge of salvation and are expecting to be rewarded at the end. The chosen are those that are filled with God's Holy Spirit and work not for a reward but for love of God and People. It is the love of God that fills our hearts through His Spirit with the same love that He shares with Jesus.

thank you so Much for the thoughts to consider when you talk about not working ,

is serving Gods will a work to be despised ?

Or is it something we should learn to be zealous for ?

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I’m not sure that Christians should have the attitude “I’m not supposed to do anything , good works are a lack of faith and (this isnt what I think you are saying )“

but I think we’re meant to grow into those who are hungry for doing good works towards others as Gods saving grace teaches us . While what you are saying has its place , we also shouldn’t get in the mind frame that doing good is a work or obeying God is trying to earn salvation . That’s what we’re meant to learn to do the good and love the good and reject the bad and repent of the bad .

It is grace that allows us the grace period , to get right . While we don’t have to get right and then come to him , we come to him and by doing so as we remain in him he heals the wrong in us and makes us right so that when we are doing good “ this is a work “ becomes the furthest thing from the mind instead it becomes natural that we do the right things

doing good works should never be considered a work but the. Store of Gods children they don’t do evil , they seek after the good always and don’t shy from the work ahead

I think the works we are tommake sure and despise and repent of doing are those of the flesh that lead us to death


“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭

I think thatbwere Meant to serve Gods will in the world , and make every effort in his will and make sure we rest from the world of the flesh as we begin to serve Gods will rather than satans will

I think it’s a matter of who we’re working for that determines things and belief is what takes us to him

“What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:15-18, 20-23‬ ‭

Ultimately our faith is meant to change us at the core so we don’t follow the enemies will into eternal
Damnation

 

[posthuman]

the first level of this is that sinners were entering the kingdom ahead of the pharisees, who had scrupulously done all kinds of things according to laws and traditions, trying to establish their own righteousness -- and they were very upset about this; as though they had worked all day and received the same wage as someone who had only worked an hour.

they should not have been upset

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭20:1-16‬ ‭

so what would you say Jesus is getting across with this parable ?

As others said, it doesn't matter when you open the door. It's not a race to see who gets saved first.

I also find Christ being Alpha and Omega, relevant to this. I recently started saying Christ is the Alpha and Omega of God the Father's plan/design. The first Adam was in Him and the last Adam was Him.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

As others said, it doesn't matter when you open the door. It's not a race to see who gets saved first.

I also find Christ being Alpha and Omega, relevant to this. I recently started saying Christ is the Alpha and Omega of God the Father's plan/design. The first Adam was in Him and the last Adam was Him.

thank you much brother for the input God bless