How do you know your denomination is right?

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Masonian

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As it says in the title, I am asking how do you know that your specific beliefs are leading you on a path to third-heaven? I don't ask this to start argument or debate but I'm very curious as to what makes you sure that your chosen church/denomination is the correct one to follow. Naturally I'd like to comment on every response to evoke more thought! I am 16 and very well-read. If/when quoting or citing scriptures please use the KJV (1611) version of the bible to keep everything mainstream and no mix up's in translations when I respond :D God Bless
 
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notmyown

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i got this round, guys. lol

welcome to Christian Chat, Masonian. :)
 

maxwel

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As it says in the title, I am asking how do you know that your specific beliefs are leading you on a path to third-heaven? I don't ask this to start argument or debate but I'm very curious as to what makes you sure that your chosen church/denomination is the correct one to follow. Naturally I'd like to comment on every response to evoke more thought! I am 16 and very well-read. If/when quoting or citing scriptures please use the KJV (1611) version of the bible to keep everything mainstream and no mix up's in translations when I respond :D God Bless

Hey Masonian,
Welcome to CC, hope you enjoy your time here and make some new friends.

Ok, let's get started.



You said, "I'm very curious as to what makes you sure that your chosen church/denomination is the correct one to follow."

Let's start with this: what makes you sure your own church/denomination is the correct one to follow?









 

Ugly

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I never use the KJV. Ever. So guess I'm disqualified. And by setting that standard it already speaks to your mindset and where this will head and what to expect. I'll pass.
 

DustyRhodes

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The best way to know is to read and study scripture. Follow the examples that
Jesus gave to us as He walked this earth for a short time. If the denomination
does not line up with scripture, it doesn't line up with God.
 

Prov910

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How do you know your denomination is right?
It seems to me that you should first familiarize yourself with various Christian beliefs and doctrines. Reading and studying the bible would be a good place to do this. Then decide for yourself what your own Christian beliefs are. Once you've reached that point you could look at the various creeds of different denominations (look HERE) to select a denomination consistent with your beliefs.

This wouldn't necessarily ensure that your denomination is the "right" one. But it would be right for you.

Godspeed to you in your Christian endeavors, Masonian! :)
 
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The best way to know is to read and study scripture. Follow the examples that
Jesus gave to us as He walked this earth for a short time. If the denomination
does not line up with scripture, it doesn't line up with God.
1 Corinthians 11:27
Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.
 

Masonian

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If it bothers you so much post what you wish. The different translations often times can give various meanings. I asked that you use the KJV so we (me and you) can not get hung up on which bible to read and instead focus on the question at hand. Your refusal to answer the question over something so minor moreso points to your mindset.
 
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Because what it teaches matches with the bible on all the important basic foundational doctrines.

There are some things that cannot be negotiated, but many small issues that can be.
 

Masonian

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I have already chosen my own beliefs everyone :D please do not assume that because I am only 16 I am asking this question because I am searching. I posted because I am curious as to what others believe and why.
 

Prov910

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If it bothers you so much post what you wish. The different translations often times can give various meanings. I asked that you use the KJV so we (me and you) can not get hung up on which bible to read and instead focus on the question at hand. Your refusal to answer the question over something so minor moreso points to your mindset.
In a way, choosing a particular bible translation is a lot like deciding what your Christian beliefs are. You just have to familiarize yourself with them, and then go with what you believe to be right.

For myself, I like the NIV because it's written in more modern English and therefore easier for me to read and understand than the KJV. But there are just some passages that sound better in King James vernacular. Like the 23rd Psalm. It sounds far better to me in KJV than any other translation.
 
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You are totally out of touch with reality if you are using the 1611 KJV.
 

maxwel

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I have already chosen my own beliefs everyone :D please do not assume that because I am only 16 I am asking this question because I am searching. I posted because I am curious as to what others believe and why.


Hi Masonian.

It was quite clear to me that you are definitely not searching, and you're already very firm in your beliefs.

So if you want to discuss why we chose our denominations, please get the ball rolling by talking about your own... I'm sure we'd all be interested in hearing more about you, and your own church/denomination.





 

preacher4truth

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As it says in the title, I am asking how do you know that your specific beliefs are leading you on a path to third-heaven? I don't ask this to start argument or debate but I'm very curious as to what makes you sure that your chosen church/denomination is the correct one to follow. Naturally I'd like to comment on every response to evoke more thought! I am 16 and very well-read. If/when quoting or citing scriptures please use the KJV (1611) version of the bible to keep everything mainstream and no mix up's in translations when I respond :D God Bless
Go ahead and name yours first, which would be appropriate. Also, I'll be using the ESV.

Accommodate others; let's hear your version of what is "the true denomination." :D
 
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You are totally out of touch with reality if you are using the 1611 KJV.
Hey come on. I love the King James Bible.

Haters gonna hate, as they say. Me and king jimmy overcometh the haters.
 

Marcelo

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As it says in the title, I am asking how do you know that your specific beliefs are leading you on a path to third-heaven?
My church is not right -- it has some flaws --, but we are free from masons, politicians, tithing, rich and famous pastors, etc. Our leaders strive for simplicity and rely more on God's power than on their own resources.
 

Dino246

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If it bothers you so much post what you wish. The different translations often times can give various meanings. I asked that you use the KJV so we (me and you) can not get hung up on which bible to read and instead focus on the question at hand. Your refusal to answer the question over something so minor moreso points to your mindset.
Welcome, Masonian :)
As you're new, you are probably unaware of the ongoing and sometimes fierce debates over Bible translations that rage here sometimes. Some use only the KJV, some never use it, and all have their reasons. Given that, it's usually best to let people quote whatever translation(s) they choose; especially when the particular wording is not the primary issue. You can always look up the reference in your preferred translation.
 
E

Ellsworth1943

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Simple truth is that no one is perfect, without error. Also truth, the name outside does not always tell you what is taught inside.
While the denomination my give you some clues, it is not set in stone what is taught by those in the local congregation.
 
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In a way, choosing a particular bible translation is a lot like deciding what your Christian beliefs are. You just have to familiarize yourself with them, and then go with what you believe to be right.

For myself, I like the NIV because it's written in more modern English and therefore easier for me to read and understand than the KJV. But there are just some passages that sound better in King James vernacular. Like the 23rd Psalm. It sounds far better to me in KJV than any other translation.

its actually quite different the niv and kjv. very key points are different. when you look at the hebrew and Greek, the translation differences are by far more when using the niv ( which i read still today in conjunction with Kjv. the Kjv authorized is by and far the most accurate translation of the Holy Bible into english. the 1981 niv is much more aqccurate than the newer versions, and the thing with niv is it is always changing, revised re distributed, revised again and redistributed. over time it loses alot from the original. just one example of an issue

john 1:18 niv "No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."

the Kjv "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."


bosom means in closest relationship with, inseperable from, in unity with.

the greek reads " theon oudeis heorakin popote monogenes theos ho on eis ton kolpon tou patros ekeinos exegesato"

and translates this way

" God no one has seen ever yet, the only begotten of God, the one being in the bosom of the Father, He has made Him Known.


while i understand the thought " Jesus is Himself God" that the niv writers put in there, i know why they did that, but it just isnt there in the translation. the Kjv is like this in nearly every place it is the most accurate. that being said i still today study niv and Love it, i just always go to kjv if there is an issue. Because I have had the luxury of studying linguistics and translation in depth. i think people miss that Hebrew and greek do not word for word translate into any language.


the translation of the Bible is done by what each sentance means, and the idea is then put into the words of another Language. One ancient people expressed complex ideas with thier wordings, if we translate them word for word they dont make sense in english, the translators translate the message, into words modern speaking people understand. the Only way to get a word for word account is to study the andient texts, and you still end up with what the kjv says. i wasted alot of time in the past because i had the idea something was lost in translation, i found the Kjv is the inspired english version of His word.


any translation of the Bible though, in any Language has the message of Christ, details matter in many instances which is why myself i always stick to kjv and study it with niv, and there really are alot of differences in the details.