How do you wake up in the morning?

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you wake up in the morning saying Thank you God, another day I have not woken up in hades, a place I deserve to Go to.

So God, in thanks, I want to work for you. show me WHO I can serve today, What I can do today to progress your kingdom. bring someon to me today God who needs your love and your forgiveness so I might share that love with them. and help me as I go on my day to not think of self. but to always think of others. Help me I pray lord to seek the things of the spirit, so I do not fulfill the lusts of my flesh!

Or do you wake up thinking God has given you another day, You did Good yesterday, I obeyed Gods commands, and did not break any, and the ones I did break, I confessed to jesus, so I am ok with God. God I will strive to obey you law today, I give this day to you, and profess that I will do whatever it takes to not disobey your commands, and live a holy and righteous life?

 

[Hizikyah]

I cant say I feel this every day, but this is my general feeling in life;

Hebrews 12:3-11, "For consider Him Who endured such opposition against Himself from sinners, so that you would not become weary, and faint in your minds. You yourselves have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as unto sons: My son, do not despise the chastening of Yahweh, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; For whom Yahweh loves, He chastens, and scourges every son whom He receives. If you endure chastening, Yahweh deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all are partakers, then you are bastards and not sons. Furthermore, we have had fleshly fathers who corrected us, and we gave them reverence; should we not even more be subject to Father Yahweh, and live? For they truly chastened us for a few days as they thought best; but He, for our profit, that we might be partakers of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful at the present time, but grievous; nevertheless, afterward it produces the peaceable fruit of righteousness, that is, for those who have been trained by it."

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I cant say I feel this every day, but this is my general feeling in life;

Hebrews 12:3-11, "For consider Him Who endured such opposition against Himself from sinners, so that you would not become weary, and faint in your minds. You yourselves have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as unto sons: My son, do not despise the chastening of Yahweh, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; For whom Yahweh loves, He chastens, and scourges every son whom He receives. If you endure chastening, Yahweh deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all are partakers, then you are bastards and not sons. Furthermore, we have had fleshly fathers who corrected us, and we gave them reverence; should we not even more be subject to Father Yahweh, and live? For they truly chastened us for a few days as they thought best; but He, for our profit, that we might be partakers of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful at the present time, but grievous; nevertheless, afterward it produces the peaceable fruit of righteousness, that is, for those who have been trained by it."

thats all great. and we should all strive for that, but is that our main objective?

but where is your serving and loving others in that passage? is that not all about why God left us here in the firstplace and did not take us home the moment we became his children?

 

[sassylady]

I wake up so tired and groggy I say God help me get through this day. Later I do thank Him, ask His help and guidance for the day, etc. But I don't get up feeling very good at all and need all the help He will give me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I wake up so tired and groggy I say God help me get through this day. Later I do thank Him, ask His help and guidance for the day, etc. But I don't get up feeling very good at all and need all the help He will give me.

amen, we all need to wake up this way, otherwise, we have already started the day of in trouble.

 

[Hizikyah]

thats all great. and we should all strive for that, but is that our main objective?

but where is your serving and loving others in that passage? is that not all about why God left us here in the firstplace and did not take us home the moment we became his children?

It me you dont seem to like, ever post I make, even when it 100% Scripture, you find a way to accuse, rebuke, or question my walk.

While you were in such a mad dash to speak down on me you missed the verse:

For consider Him Who endured such opposition against Himself from sinners, so that you would not become weary, and faint in your minds. .........; nevertheless, afterward it produces the peaceable fruit of righteousness, that is, for those who have been trained by it."

I will translate into my own words.

Think about what the Messiah went through, you have not gone through anything that bad, so be strong. Yes Yah will correct you but if you accept that correction it will guide you into being the person Yah wants you to be.

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

i tell God that i love Him and thank Him for life, these are the first words that i speak as i awake and when i enter prayer, the rest depends on what is going on at that particular time.

Matthew 6:6
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It me you dont seem to like, ever post I make, even when it 100% Scripture, you find a way to accuse, rebuke, or question my walk.

While you were in such a mad dash to speak down on me you missed the verse:

For consider Him Who endured such opposition against Himself from sinners, so that you would not become weary, and faint in your minds. .........; nevertheless, afterward it produces the peaceable fruit of righteousness, that is, for those who have been trained by it."

I will translate into my own words.

Think about what the Messiah went through, you have not gone through anything that bad, so be strong. Yes Yah will correct you but if you accept that correction it will guide you into being the person Yah wants you to be.

You know why I keep harping on you?

You deny salvation by the grace of Christ

You deny that he who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ.

You deny the eternal life John said YOU KNOW YOU HAVE is even knowable.

As long as you continue to deny these things, I will continue to harp on you.

You can not help anyone to show them how to love others and fulfill the law in their hearts, Because you have not shown yourself how to love others (or God) ONLY because God loved you first, Because you reject that fact that God loves you unconditionally.

How can you love unconditionally (the way Christ loved all men while he walked the earth) if you do not agree God has loved you unconditionally? You can't

 

[Hizikyah]

You know why I keep harping on you?

You deny salvation by the grace of Christ

You deny that he who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ.

You deny the eternal life John said YOU KNOW YOU HAVE is even knowable.

As long as you continue to deny these things, I will continue to harp on you.

You can not help anyone to show them how to love others and fulfill the law in their hearts, Because you have not shown yourself how to love others (or God) ONLY because God loved you first, Because you reject that fact that God loves you unconditionally.

How can you love unconditionally (the way Christ loved all men while he walked the earth) if you do not agree God has loved you unconditionally? You can't

You are making lies up and putting them on me.

Is it your intention that others will read this and believe your falsehood?

Matt 7:12, "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."

 

[maxwel]

eternally-grateful,

I also disagree with Hizikya on many points of doctrine,
but sometimes people listen to us better when we are willing to also listen to them.

The verse Hizikya mentioned was Hebrews 12:3.
The context of this verse is a continuation of Hebrews 11,
which is all about serving God against all opposition, even death.

This was a perfectly valid verse for this thread,
and I can't see anything wrong with it.
In fact, Hebrews 12:3 is one of the most well known verses in the Bible.

Like I said, I also disagree with much of Hizikya's doctrine,
but usually when we disagree with someone,
we still don't really disagree with every single thing they ever say.

Heck, even atheists often say a few reasonable things.
: )

I'm not suggesting we ignore doctrine.
I'm just suggesting we should listen to the person speaking more carefully.
A person we often disagree with is still capable of saying reasonable things.

God never tells us to toss aside either reason or kindness...
although we often do.
I'm guilty of this myself.
Maybe we can all do a little better.

 

[Richie_2uk]

Do you wake up in the morning saying Thank you God, another day I have not woken up in hades, a place I deserve to Go to.

So God, in thanks, I want to work for you. show me WHO I can serve today, What I can do today to progress your kingdom. bring someon to me today God who needs your love and your forgiveness so I might share that love with them. and help me as I go on my day to not think of self. but to always think of others. Help me I pray lord to seek the things of the spirit, so I do not fulfill the lusts of my flesh!

Or do you wake up thinking God has given you another day, You did Good yesterday, I obeyed Gods commands, and did not break any, and the ones I did break, I confessed to jesus, so I am ok with God. God I will strive to obey you law today, I give this day to you, and profess that I will do whatever it takes to not disobey your commands, and live a holy and righteous life?

We all say thank you in many ways. In our own special way. However I do agree we need to be more thankful but God knows our hearts and he hears our heart of thanks. We don't verbally out loud have to say thanks. God listens to our hearts. But it's good to show God how thankful we are, and that's down to you how you give thanks to our ever-lasting loving, giving, righteous God.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You are making lies up and putting them on me.

Is it your intention that others will read this and believe your falsehood?

Matt 7:12, "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."

How am I making up lies?

You can say things all you want, you can post up all the verses you want,

As long as you deny eternal life is eternal the moment you recieve it, You deny the gospel of God. and make him out to be a liar.

Your words condemn you. I can not condemn you. I do not have to even if I could.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

eternally-grateful,

I also disagree with Hizikya on many points of doctrine,
but sometimes people listen to us better when we are willing to also listen to them.

The verse Hizikya mentioned was Hebrews 12:3.
The context of this verse is a continuation of Hebrews 11,
which is all about serving God against all opposition, even death.

This was a perfectly valid verse for this thread,
and I can't see anything wrong with it.
In fact, Hebrews 12:3 is one of the most well known verses in the Bible.

Like I said, I also disagree with much of Hizikya's doctrine,
but usually when we disagree with someone,
we still don't really disagree with every single thing they ever say.

Heck, even atheists often say a few reasonable things.
: )

I'm not suggesting we ignore doctrine.
I'm just suggesting we should listen to the person speaking more carefully.
A person we often disagree with is still capable of saying reasonable things.

God never tells us to toss aside either reason or kindness...
although we often do.
I'm guilty of this myself.
Maybe we can all do a little better.

I have been listening to Hizikya and those like him for well over a year now.

I know their quirks, and things they say (in fact I have been listening to them for over 30 years now. I used to be one of them, so I have a personal knowledge of the lies I used to tell myself)

as for heb 12..

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Consider him who endured from sinners such hostility against himself, so that you may not grow weary or fainthearted. [SUP]4 [/SUP]In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons?

“My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
nor be weary when reproved by him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and chastises every son whom he receives.”


[SUP]7 [/SUP]It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? [SUP]8 [/SUP]If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live? [SUP]10 [/SUP]For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

Yes, it talks about how we should listen to Gods discipline.

But how does that help us to serve others? Discipline are for those who do wrong, not for those who do right.

should I not be focused on loving others? in which case I would be fulfilling the law of God in my heart, and not have to worry about discipline?

 

[tourist]

I wake up so tired and groggy I say God help me get through this day. Later I do thank Him, ask His help and guidance for the day, etc. But I don't get up feeling very good at all and need all the help He will give me.

I rarely feel good when I wake up. God help us all.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We all say thank you in many ways. In our own special way. However I do agree we need to be more thankful but God knows our hearts and he hears our heart of thanks. We don't verbally out loud have to say thanks. God listens to our hearts. But it's good to show God how thankful we are, and that's down to you how you give thanks to our ever-lasting loving, giving, righteous God.

amen, God wants us to acknowledge him, not because he needs it, But because WE NEED IT.

 

[dcontroversal]

It is amazing how we sometimes take it all for granted while forgetting that the sure series of the Lord are renewed daily.....I thank the Lord for another day of life and at the end of that day ask him to forgive me where I have failed him while thanking Him for Jesus and the eternal life that we have been given dia his blood, his sacrifice and his faith.......!

 

[maxwel]

I have been listening to Hizikya and those like him for well over a year now.

I know their quirks, and things they say (in fact I have been listening to them for over 30 years now. I used to be one of them, so I have a personal knowledge of the lies I used to tell myself)

as for heb 12..

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Consider him who endured from sinners such hostility against himself, so that you may not grow weary or fainthearted. [SUP]4 [/SUP]In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons?

“My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
nor be weary when reproved by him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and chastises every son whom he receives.”


[SUP]7 [/SUP]It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? [SUP]8 [/SUP]If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live? [SUP]10 [/SUP]For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

Yes, it talks about how we should listen to Gods discipline.But how does that help us to serve others? Discipline are for those who do wrong, not for those who do right.

should I not be focused on loving others? in which case I would be fulfilling the law of God in my heart, and not have to worry about discipline?

Bro,

Hebrews 12:1 shows clearly that it's all a continuation of Hebrews 11... chapter eleven is the context.
Verse 3 of chapter 12 has nothing to do with discipline;
discipline doesn't even show up until verse 5 and has nothing to do with the previous context.

If you want to debate Hizikya every day about doctrine, that's fine,
but it's kind of pointless to debate him on issues that aren't even issues.

If you want to argue with him about the Hebrew Roots Movement, that's fine, I'll even help.
But we don't need to argue with people about things that aren't even issues.

 

[ColinCat]

Bro,

Hebrews 12:1 shows clearly that it's all a continuation of Hebrews 11... chapter eleven is the context.
Verse 3 of chapter 12 has nothing to do with discipline;
discipline doesn't even show up until verse 5 and has nothing to do with the previous context.

If you want to debate Hizikya every day about doctrine, that's fine,
but it's kind of pointless to debate him on issues that aren't even issues.

If you want to argue with him about the Hebrew Roots Movement, that's fine, I'll even help.
But we don't need to argue with people about things that aren't even issues.

I wake up very badly each morning. Usually to the sound of an awful alarm clock or on weekends I'm usually awoken by an elbow drop (or some other random painful wrestling move) from my son at 6am.

Now if god can do something about this daily ordeal then I might become a believer.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Bro,

Hebrews 12:1 shows clearly that it's all a continuation of Hebrews 11... chapter eleven is the context.
Verse 3 of chapter 12 has nothing to do with discipline;
discipline doesn't even show up until verse 5 and has nothing to do with the previous context.

If you want to debate Hizikya every day about doctrine, that's fine,
but it's kind of pointless to debate him on issues that aren't even issues.

If you want to argue with him about the Hebrew Roots Movement, that's fine, I'll even help.
But we don't need to argue with people about things that aren't even issues.

what does this have to do with serving others?

I am lost as to your point.

 

[maxwel]

what does this have to do with serving others?

I am lost as to your point.

The context of Hebrews 12:3 is your Christian walk, and your christian service to others.

That's the point.

If you miss the context of walk and service, 12:1 shows it's a continuation of chapter 11.

I thought this was a simply and straightforward point to make, I wasn't trying to start a debate.