How many of you are for gay rights movement?

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Are you for gay rights?

  • yes

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • no

    Votes: 19 90.5%
  • maybe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • not sure

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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tryingtofindhim

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I was just wondering how many people are for gay rights movements.
 
Oct 17, 2009
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Depends on what you mean by rights.

Should gays have the same rights as all other citizens? Yes.

Should gays have the right to flaunt their sexuality in lewd parades through San Francisco streets? No, they shouldn't. And neither should anyone else.
 

pickles

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This is alot like back in the seventies when we were asked to vote for abortion rights. I feel the same in this. I believe God gave us free will. But to vote for anything that would give the impression of aproval I can not do. This new vote is not about basic rights. All people have this now. It is about approving and supporting a lifestyle that is wrong in the eyes of God. There are so many young that look to our laws to give them a moral bace. I cannot aprove something that will lead an innocent to make the wrong choice.
God bless, pickles
 
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Jordan9

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I am in favour of equality under the law, equal wages, etc.

I am NOT in favour of censoring churches/individuals who (rightly) call it a sin. I am NOT in favour of homosexual couples adopting.

I voted "yes" however, but that's the longer answer.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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I cannot see how a Christian could possibly be for gay rights...
 
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Jordan9

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The Jesus I know loves sinners, He doesn't toss 'em in the gulags. :p
 
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songster

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Legislature ,such as the D.O.M.A. of Sept.21 1996, (Defense of Marriage Act), is a necessary, but temporary means of preserving an institution which many, in our time, are attempting to redefine. Legalizing same sex marriage is no more worthy of congressional debate than the issue of allowing an adolescent to marry an adult. These attempts, being made by zealous groups who seize opportunities to test the boundaries of God’s patience, are, in fact, not genuinely petitioning the government to receive additional freedoms, but rather, are skillfully redefining perversion.

The shear nature of the discussion regarding the allowance of a redefinition of marriage through legislative or judicial means, is a clear indication of the drastic shift which has occurred in this nation’s perception of morality and some of the most fundamental precepts in the bible. These individuals attempt to cast guilt on the American people by creating a false case of victimization. Sometimes even equating the African-American struggles to those of the homosexual population. Being African-American, and also Christian, I find this comparison of race and perversion to be both inaccurate and offensive, however forgivable.

Let us be clear, If what was being discussed was a simple platonic friendship between individuals of the same sex, there would be no issue to discuss, no war to wage. But, because Americans are not naïve, in this internet age, everyone is aware of the sexual aspects of these types of relationships as well as the repercussions that government/state sanctioned perversions would hurl onto society. This endorsement , whether progressing at a federal or state level would only represent a crack in the dam, which at present might only trickle, but would soon give way to additional legislation affecting our educational and religious systems, not to mention, a further redefining of the family unit as we know it.

The nature of every perversion is rooted in experiences which have influenced or affected the mental/spiritual state in a manner so as to produce deviant behavior on one or several levels. Simply because the causative factors are not always easily identifiable, does not mean they are not present, and it is becoming increasingly unpopular for those exhibiting homosexual/gay/lesbian tendencies to volunteer truthful, vital information about their past, collected as data by scientific/psychiatric institutions, which could be used as an explanation for the behavior. Many are coerced by those who have accepted homosexual behavior as an alternative lifestyle, to either conceal it, (don’t ask don’t tell), or to proudly proclaim that they are finally ‘coming out’, (embracing their true identity). This only fortifies the deception in the minds of those experiencing homosexual desires, and feeds a society now starving for ‘change’.

One of my closest friends was set free from homosexuality after having participated in that lifestyle for years. The battle which ensued thereafter was not unlike someone breaking free from pornography addiction, uncontrollable promiscuity, or any other compulsive or habitual behavior.

No one needs to feel condemned or even guilty for being attracted to members of the same sex, but how we perceive and express those feelings is extremely significant to our mental and spiritual wellbeing. There is both forgiveness and freedom for those who choose not to defend or redefine their sin. God is faithful to honor his word which promises that if we pray, receiving Jesus as the Lord of our lives, surrendering, giving control to Him, He will be faithful to do His part in forgiving us for our sins, and in beginning the progressive process of cleansing us from unrighteousness and providing us with the power to be free from destructive lifestyles.
 
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Graybeard

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I voted "yes" however, but that's the longer answer.
hangs head...shakes head and prays, "Father forgive them as they do not know what they do"
 
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Leilaii425

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hangs head...shakes head and prays, "Father forgive them as they do not know what they do"


dont be so dramatic.... i would also vote yes, just because their gay doesnt mean they should be treated as second class citizens. I do not agree with the lifestyle, God says its wrong, and i agree. I dont feel as though gays should be able to get married or have any other right that a man and woman should have when their married, but i think they need to be treated as equals. Their was a gay couple that came to my parents church, both of them were christians but they were in bondage to this lifestyle. When they broke up and still continued to come to the church, jean said the number one reason she turned her life around was because the people in church showed her christs love. And i dont believe you can do that by turning your nose up at them.
 
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i don't see why gays need special rights apart from everyone else.
 
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carpetmanswife

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dont be so dramatic.... i would also vote yes, just because their gay doesnt mean they should be treated as second class citizens. I do not agree with the lifestyle, God says its wrong, and i agree. I dont feel as though gays should be able to get married or have any other right that a man and woman should have when their married, but i think they need to be treated as equals. Their was a gay couple that came to my parents church, both of them were christians but they were in bondage to this lifestyle. When they broke up and still continued to come to the church, jean said the number one reason she turned her life around was because the people in church showed her christs love. And i dont believe you can do that by turning your nose up at them.
thats an inspiring story:)
 

Kakashi

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I voted "no" in the case that gays should have "special" rights, that's ridiculous. However, if you mean they should have the "right" of free speech,well of course they should.

I'd say restart the thread with a less vague question and poll.
 
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Graybeard

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dont be so dramatic.... i would also vote yes, just because their gay doesnt mean they should be treated as second class citizens. I do not agree with the lifestyle, God says its wrong, and i agree. I dont feel as though gays should be able to get married or have any other right that a man and woman should have when their married, but i think they need to be treated as equals. Their was a gay couple that came to my parents church, both of them were christians but they were in bondage to this lifestyle. When they broke up and still continued to come to the church, jean said the number one reason she turned her life around was because the people in church showed her christs love. And i dont believe you can do that by turning your nose up at them.
The question asked is are you for gay rights movement, so you are telling me that you being a Christian, accepting our Lord Jesus Christ as Saviour, being filled with His Holy Spirit, accept the gay rights movement?
maybe one should ask what is the gay rights movement, from what I've seen.....
it is the right to adopt an innocent child to bring up under the abominationship (if there is such a word) of same sex couples replacing the God given plan of Man and Woman bringing forth a new life to complete a family and to teach that child that it is "normal" and their choice?....
it is the right to trample and defile God's Holy plan for Man and Woman to become as one under His plan of Marriage...
it is the right to prance around, up and down our streets boldly displaying their abomination under Gods eyes...

turning my nose up at them???..that is a judgement you have made of me, as I hate the sin but do not hate the sinner!!....don't be so dramatic you say, so what do you say?....fellowship with the unbeliever/gay/ungodly??....well what does the Word say?, if you have Christ as your Lord I am sure you know!
 
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HeathAyden

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I voted yes. They should be treated as equals. Lets not go into this whole marriage thing but if we allow Wiccans and Pagans to marry inside our churches then what is the diffrence. The outward and legal perspectives of marriage were already ruined before gay marriage came about, they were ruined when divorce became an option. And I think Gays SHOULD be able to adopt, I would rather a child have two loving parents weather they be the same gender or not to raise them than no parents at all or very horrible parents. You don't nessciarily become the product of what you are raised. I was raised by an abusive Alcoholic father and I am not absusive nor am I alcoholic and because of his lifestyle example it actually made me stray from that even more.

That's my two cents.
 
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Leilaii425

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The question asked is are you for gay rights movement, so you are telling me that you being a Christian, accepting our Lord Jesus Christ as Saviour, being filled with His Holy Spirit, accept the gay rights movement?
maybe one should ask what is the gay rights movement, from what I've seen.....
it is the right to adopt an innocent child to bring up under the abominationship (if there is such a word) of same sex couples replacing the God given plan of Man and Woman bringing forth a new life to complete a family and to teach that child that it is "normal" and their choice?....
it is the right to trample and defile God's Holy plan for Man and Woman to become as one under His plan of Marriage...
it is the right to prance around, up and down our streets boldly displaying their abomination under Gods eyes...

turning my nose up at them???..that is a judgement you have made of me, as I hate the sin but do not hate the sinner!!....don't be so dramatic you say, so what do you say?....fellowship with the unbeliever/gay/ungodly??....well what does the Word say?, if you have Christ as your Lord I am sure you know!

Im not up for debating or discussing any of what i said with you... He asked for opinions and i gave mine. Im not really concerned with what you think of what i said. I have nothing furthur to add to this matter.
 
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Graybeard

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Im not up for debating or discussing any of what i said with you... He asked for opinions and i gave mine. Im not really concerned with what you think of what i said. I have nothing furthur to add to this matter.
I pray that you are concerned about what God has intended
subject closed
God bless
 

Kathleen

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I too, think that homosexual people should not be allowed gay rights or be classed as a second class citezen on the other hand.

However - because they are not good role models, and they do not live there lives morally or the way God intended it - I belive they should not be allowed to adopt or be married.

However - equal pay..right to feel safe - yes the basic rights that were formed in 1946 - that everyother person recives - yes

But marrige - adoptions - things like that - definitly not
 
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I mean I guess were do we stop do we give right for humans to marry animals , or give in to incest. Even if you didn't believe in God that would be dumb, Because you would have aids and retards. See the Bible guidlines accualy protect men and when you stray from it, the world starts to disfunction.

I guess I always likend a gay marriage to a battery with 2 possitve ends; it wil not produce anything.
 
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Jordan9

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So you approve of sodomy?
I'll answer your question with a question. Can we legislate against lust? Coveting?

No, I don't approve of it. However, I don't think legislating against it is the answer.
 
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