Importance of Grace

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These questions are for all members as well as any newcomers. Grace is mentioned over 250 times in the scriptures. Christ has put all believers under grace. If there is a subject that is common to all believers and something that we could give testimony about, it would be the grace of God. I am asking these questions so that we can discuss in sincerity, this vital aspect of God.

1. What is grace and what does it do for us?
2. When is grace available and how is it received?
3. Is there any limit to growing in grace?
 
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Grace is un-merrited favour.( meaning , we didnt deserve it, God gave it freely because he loves us).
Grace is available to all who believe and sincerely call upon the name of the Lord.
I wouldnt think there is a limit if your sincere in your walk with God.......feel free to correct me if you think Im wrong.
 

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Grace is un-merrited favour.( meaning , we didnt deserve it, God gave it freely because he loves us).
Grace is available to all who believe and sincerely call upon the name of the Lord.
I wouldnt think there is a limit if your sincere in your walk with God.......feel free to correct me if you think Im wrong.
You are absolutely right on all three. If you really think about God's grace, it is even grace that we have air to breath and to live another day. We certainly don't know what tomorrow will bring, but we know that whatever comes God will be there waiting to be gracious to us. From one morning to the next, the only thing that we can receive by faith from God is His promises of grace. Salvation was a promise of God's grace when we believed upon Christ. Not one ounce or measure of His grace do any of us deserve. God gives it freely and we receive it freely. God has a throne of grace that we can boldly approach to obtain mercy and find grace to help in the time of need.

As parents we need all kinds of grace for our kids as we instruct them and raise them. We need grace toward one another in our marriage. If we fall, we fall into grace, which is able to make us stand back up again. When we hear the word of God we listen for God's words of grace. When we speak it should be according to grace so that the hearer can be edified. When you think about our entire life and relationship with God and others it is all grace. Even when we correct others or we are being corrected it should be done according to grace. We don't give grace to people so that they can live in sin, but we do give them grace as sinners, so that if they sin they can go to God, receive grace, confess their sin and be restored instantly with no probation. The kind of God I see in the scriptures is full of grace and truth (John 1:14).
 
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1. What is grace and what does it do for us?
2. When is grace available and how is it received?
3. Is there any limit to growing in grace?

Grace is God gift to us. We can never be good enough to stand before Him, with out His grace. Grace is his love given freely to cover our sins.

Grace is avalable and received when we except Jesus as our personal savior.

God's Graces is unlimited. To Grow is Grace is to accept that nothing you do will make you worthy, and it is only by His Grace that we are accepted into His Rightousness.

That is my understanding of Grace. I am glad you put this post on here, because Grace is what the Father is in constant talk with me about.
 
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These questions are for all members as well as any newcomers. Grace is mentioned over 250 times in the scriptures. Christ has put all believers under grace. If there is a subject that is common to all believers and something that we could give testimony about, it would be the grace of God. I am asking these questions so that we can discuss in sincerity, this vital aspect of God.

1. What is grace and what does it do for us?
2. When is grace available and how is it received?
3. Is there any limit to growing in grace?

As a youngster attending religious instruction I remember there are two kinds of grace, sanctifying and actual.

Sanctifying grace stays in the soul. It’s what makes the soul holy; it gives the soul supernatural life. More properly, it is supernatural life.

Actual grace, by contrast, is a supernatural push or encouragement. It’s transient. It doesn’t live in the soul, but acts on the soul from the outside. It’s a supernatural kick in the pants. It gets the will and intellect moving so we can seek out and keep sanctifying grace.

Our soul in its natural state, it isn’t fit for heaven. If I die in its natural state, heaven won’t be for you. What we need to live there is supernatural life, not just natural life. That supernatural life is called sanctifying grace. The reason we need sanctifying grace to be able to live in heaven is because we will be in perfect and absolute union with God, the source of all life ( Gal. 2:19, 1 Pet. 3:18).

If sanctifying grace dwells in our soul when we die, then we are able to live in heaven (though we may need to be purified first in purgatory; ( 1 Cor. 3:12–16). If it doesn’t dwell in our soul when we die—in other words, if our soul is spiritually dead by being in the state of mortal sin (Gal. 5:19-21)— we cannot live in heaven. We then face an eternity of spiritual death: the utter separation of our spirit from God (Eph. 2:1, 2:5, 4:18). The worst part of this eternal separation will be that we are responsible.

One obtains supernatural life by yielding to actual graces received. God keeps giving us these divine encouragements, and all wehave to do is cooperate.

For instance, God moves us to repentance, and if we take the hint we go to confession,
where the guilt for our sins is remitted (John 20:21–23). Through the sacrament of penance, through reconciliation to God, we receive sanctifying grace. But we can lose it again by sinning mortally (1 John 5:16–17).

Mortal means death. Mortal sins are deadly sins because they kill off supernatural life, sanctifying grace. Mortal sins can’t coexist with the supernatural life, because by their nature such sins say"No" to God, while sanctifying grace says "Yes."

Venial sins don’t destroy supernatural life, and they don’t even lessen it. Mortal sins destroy it outright. The trouble with venial sins is that they weaken us, making us more vulnerable to mortal sins.

When you lose supernatural life, there’s nothing we can do on our own to regain it. We are reduced to natural life again, and no natural act can merit a supernatural reward. We can merit a supernatural reward only by being made able to act above our nature, which we can do only if we have help—grace.

To regain supernatural life, we have to receive actual graces from God. Think of these as helping graces. Such graces differ from sanctifying grace in that they aren’t a quality of the soul and don’t abide in it. Rather, actual graces enable the soul to perform some supernatural act, such as an act of faith or repentance. If the soul responds to actual grace and makes the appropriate supernatural act, it again receives supernatural life.

Sanctifying grace implies a real transformation of the soul. Most of the Protestant Reformers denied that a real transformation takes place. They said God doesn’t actually wipe away our sins. Our souls don’t become spotless and holy in themselves. Instead, they remain corrupted, sinful, full of sin. According to the Protestant heresy of Forensic Imputation, God merely throws a cloak over them and treats them as if they were spotless, knowing all the while that they’re not.

But that isn’t the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox view. We believe souls really are cleansed by an infusion of the supernatural life. Paul speaks of us as "a new creation" (2 Cor. 5:17), "created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness" (Eph. 4:24). Of course, we’re still subject to temptations to sin; we still suffer the effects of Adam’s Fall (what theologians call "concupiscence"); but God removes the guilt from our souls. We may still have a tendency to sin, but God has removed the sins we have.

Our souls don’t become something other than souls when God cleanses them and pours his grace into them (what the Bible refers to as "infused" ["poured"] grace, cf. Acts 10:45, Rom. 5:5 Titus 3:5–7); they don’t cease to be what they were before. When grace elevates nature, our intellects are given the new power of faith, something they don’t have at the natural level. Our wills are given the new powers of hope and charity, things also absent at the merely natural level.

As previously mentioned, we need sanctifying grace in our souls if we’re to be equipped for heaven. In other words, we need to be justified. "But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God" (1 Cor. 6:11).

The Protestant misunderstanding of justification lies in its claim that justification is merely a forensic (i.e., purely declaratory) legal declaration by God that the sinner is now "justified." If you "accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior," he declares you justified, though he doesn’t really make you justified or sanctified; your soul is in the same state as it was before; but you’re eligible for heaven.

While protestants expect the person thereafter to undergo sanctification, the degree of sanctification achieved is, ultimately, immaterial to the question of whether you’ll get to heaven. Protestants submit that the person is justified; and justification as a purely legal declaration is what counts. Unfortunately, this scheme is a legal fiction. It amounts to God telling an untruth by saying the sinner has been justified, while all along he knows that the sinner is not really justified, but is only covered under the "cloak" of Christ’s righteousness.But, what God declares he does. S]o shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and prosper in the thing for which I sent it" (Is. 55:11). So, when God declares you justified, he makes you justified. Any justification that is not woven together with sanctification is no justification at all.

The Bible’s teaching on justification is much more nuanced. Paul indicates that there is a real transformation which occurs in justification, that it is not just a change in legal status. This is seen, for example, in Romans 6:7, which every standard translation—Protestant ones included—renders as "For he who has died is freed from sin" (or a close variant).

Paul is obviously speaking about being freed from sin in an experiential sense, for this is the passage where he is at pains to stress the fact that we have made a decisive break with sin that must be reflected in our behavior: "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?" (Rom. 6:1-2). "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal bodies, to make you obey their passions. Do not yield your members to sin as instruments of wickedness, but yield yourselves to God as men who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments of righteousness" (6:12-13).

The context here is what Protestants call sanctification, the process of being made holy. Sanctification is the sense in which we are said to be "freed from sin" in this passage. Yet in the Greek text, what is actually said is "he who has died has been justified from sin." The term in Greek (dikaioo) is the word for being justified, yet the context indicates sanctification, which is why every standard translation renders the word "freed" rather than "justified." This shows that, in Paul’s mind, justification involves a real transformation, a real, experiential freeing from sin, not just a change of legal status. And it shows that, the way he uses terms, there is not the rigid wall between justification and sanctification that Protestants imagine.

According to Scripture, sanctification and justification aren’t just one-time events, but are ongoing processes in the life of the believer. Both can be spoken of as past-time events, as Paul mentions in 1 Corinthians 6:11: "But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." Sanctification is also a present, ongoing process, as the author of Hebrews notes: "For by one offering he has perfected forever those who are being sanctified" (Heb. 10:14). In regard to justification also being an on-going process, compare Romans 4:3; Genesis 15:6 with both Hebrews 11:8; Genesis 12:1-4 and James 2:21-23; Genesis 22:1-18. In these passages, Abraham's justification is advanced on three separate occasions.

Most Fundamentalists go on to say that losing ground in the sanctification battle won’t jeopardize our justification. We might sin worse than we did before "getting saved," but we'll enter heaven anyway, because we can’t undo your justification, which has nothing to do with whether we have supernatural life in our soul.

Calvin taught the absolute impossibility of losing justification. Luther said it could be lost only through the sin of unbelief; that is, by undoing the act of faith and rejecting Christ; but not by what Apostolic Christians call mortal sins.

Apostolic Christians see it differently. If we sin grievously, the supernatural life in our soul disappears, since it can’t co-exist with serious sin. We then cease to be justified. If we were to die while unjustified, we would go to hell. But we can become re-justified by having the supernatural life renewed in our soul, and we can do that by responding to the actual graces God sends us.

In Christ
 
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