In the Bible why is Jesus more forgiving than God if they are one in the same?
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Yes people will believe anything they want but we must search out the truth and not be blinded by everyone else. Just because most christians believe something, doesn't make it true. Everything we believe about God must line up with all scripture otherwise we can make it into a false doctrine. Scripture backs up scripture. If you can't prove something with scripture verses then chances are it's false.
First of all, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are not all the same person with a personality disorder. They are one by unity. They are of one mind and purpose, just as the church is supposed to be of one mind and purpose- does that make the church all one person? Of course not, that would be a personality disorder of the greatest magnitude lol. The Bible says we are to teach the same thing in all the congregations of the church.
Second, God seems different in the Old Testament because He did things physically then that He does spiritually now. David killing his tens of thousands seems much more drastic than tens of thousands dying to self in order to live for God. Taking adulterers outside the city to stone them to death seems more drastic than an adulterer taking their cross, dying daily to that sin in order to live for God.
These things seem more drastic, hands on, involved, responsive, etc. But they are the exact same things God is doing today spiritually instead of physically. He is preparing us to eventually leave the physical, and live in a spiritual realm with Him.
Second, God seems different in the Old Testament because He did things physically then that He does spiritually now. David killing his tens of thousands seems much more drastic than tens of thousands dying to self in order to live for God. Taking adulterers outside the city to stone them to death seems more drastic than an adulterer taking their cross, dying daily to that sin in order to live for God.
These things seem more drastic, hands on, involved, responsive, etc. But they are the exact same things God is doing today spiritually instead of physically. He is preparing us to eventually leave the physical, and live in a spiritual realm with Him.
I know Jesus isn't God, in the same way I am not my father. Plus there are many other reasons why it is impossible for Jesus to be God. Because for one Jesus being the mediator between God and man. If Jesus was God that would make him both mediator and God and you know the judge cannot be the defense. Jesus couldn't be the mediator if he is God.
Jesus is our defense before God, he cannot be both the judge and our defense because he would then be biased and could not mediate on our behalf before God.
Jesus is our defense before God, he cannot be both the judge and our defense because he would then be biased and could not mediate on our behalf before God.
I agree and you might want to take your own advice. Because what you said about Jesus not being God is not supported by scripture.
I gave you scripture that supports Jesus as being God from the other post, even God the Father calls Jesus, God.
"But about the Son He (the Father) says:“Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever,and righteousness will be the scepter of Your kingdom.You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;therefore God, Your God, has placed You above Your companionsby anointing You with the oil of joy.”
Paul refers to Jesus as God:
"For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men. It instructs us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live sensible, upright, and godly lives in the present age, as we await the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Jesus is God's begotten son who came from the bosom of the Father (John 1:18) really He shares the same divinity with the Father.
The one who came from the Father's bosom is surely God just like Eve is a human because she came from Adam's rib.
The only difference between God and Christ is the authority. the Father's authority is higher than of Jesus.
If you are forgiven by Christ, it means you are forgiven by God. and what Christ does are what his Father wants him to do (John 12:49)
Jesus forgives sins it is because he is God.
The one who came from the Father's bosom is surely God just like Eve is a human because she came from Adam's rib.
The only difference between God and Christ is the authority. the Father's authority is higher than of Jesus.
If you are forgiven by Christ, it means you are forgiven by God. and what Christ does are what his Father wants him to do (John 12:49)
Jesus forgives sins it is because he is God.
Oh, but they do say that. I've already told you, I do study the major translations, the interlinear and the actual Greek. You are an enemy of Christ in saying that he is not God.
So you're saying that Thomas didn't say "my Lord and my God?"
Or that Paul didn't say, "the appearing of Jesus Christ, our great God and Savior?"
Or that the Jews didn't pick up rocks to stone Jesus saying "you a mere man claim to be God?"
How convenient it is for you to just shoot down the proof of scripture regarding this issue.
As I said, those scripture above are just a few off the top of my head, I have many more in a document. Those scriptures mean exactly what they say.
So you're saying that Thomas didn't say "my Lord and my God?"
Or that Paul didn't say, "the appearing of Jesus Christ, our great God and Savior?"
Or that the Jews didn't pick up rocks to stone Jesus saying "you a mere man claim to be God?"
How convenient it is for you to just shoot down the proof of scripture regarding this issue.
As I said, those scripture above are just a few off the top of my head, I have many more in a document. Those scriptures mean exactly what they say.
God forgives sins because of Jesus death on the cross. Just because Jesus forgives sins doesn't make him God. We are commanded to forgive sins as well. Does this make us God?
Also Jesus says on the cross my God my God why have thou forsaken me.
If Jesus was God then this is not true.
Jesus is the begotten son of God yes but it doesn't make him God. The bible is clear in numbers that God isn't a man (human) or the son of man.
Jesus is clearly human. Therefore not God according to numbers 23:19
Jesus has his Father's nature because he has half his DNA so yes he is like his Father BUT he isn't God. He is the only begotten son of God.
Also Jesus says on the cross my God my God why have thou forsaken me.
If Jesus was God then this is not true.
Jesus is the begotten son of God yes but it doesn't make him God. The bible is clear in numbers that God isn't a man (human) or the son of man.
Jesus is clearly human. Therefore not God according to numbers 23:19
Jesus has his Father's nature because he has half his DNA so yes he is like his Father BUT he isn't God. He is the only begotten son of God.
I've studied out many verses in John referring to what you say and in some instances there have been up to 6-7 English words added to verses to make them say what they say. Believe me I'm not very happy that I've been lied to for over 40 years but it's the truth.
I know what I believe is true because I've studied the verses and searched out their meanings for many years.
God is logical and in Him is no mystery. God will reveal Himself if you truly seek for His truth, not what people believe.
I know what I believe is true because I've studied the verses and searched out their meanings for many years.
God is logical and in Him is no mystery. God will reveal Himself if you truly seek for His truth, not what people believe.
No you don't because I would have read them and I haven't. It is your erroneous interpretation of them. you have been deceived and need to repent of this. We have scripture after scripture showing Jesus to be God. No created being could pay the penalty for our sins. And Jesus is not a created being. On the contrary, everything was made by Him and for Him.
"Let us make man after our own image, after our likeness."
"Let us go down and confound their language."
"Let us make man after our own image, after our likeness."
"Let us go down and confound their language."
That man would have to be without sin. An angel is a created being an is not holy of himself. Only Holy God in the flesh could pay the penalty for man's sins.
By the way, you did not respond regarding Isaiah 7:14 regarding Jesus as "Emmanuel" God with us. All you do is go down the line and ignore every scripture that is presented to you as proof. You have gone down the wrong road. You have wandered away from the truth.
By the way, you did not respond regarding Isaiah 7:14 regarding Jesus as "Emmanuel" God with us. All you do is go down the line and ignore every scripture that is presented to you as proof. You have gone down the wrong road. You have wandered away from the truth.