Is God higher than Jesus?

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Jesus said that below. So does it really imply that God has a higher position & is more authoritative in a sense?

& yes, I'm clearly aware that Jesus is God too, part of the Trinity.

"You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" (John 14:28).
 
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Matthew 28:18

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me".
The father has given all authority to the son. So yes the father has a higher position.
 
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Matthew 28:18

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me".
The father has given all authority to the son. So yes the father has a higher position.
Hi @PrynceNY, I did some research & some said that because Jesus(also God) voluntarily made himself nothing & became a human, a whole human & a whole God concurrently so to speak, it was that part of he being a human that made him lower than God at that point of time.

However Jesus is now in Heaven, in this sense who is higher? If not why equal?

Do you still think that God the Father is higher than Jesus?
 
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Magenta

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All power and authority has been given to Jesus Christ. God reveals Himself to us in ways that we can relate to even though the totality of God may be so far beyond what any of us could fully comprehend.

God does not have the limitations we do as finite physical beings. Still, it is easy for us to grasp that in death, when our spirit departs our body, we are no longer present in this world. Jesus is like that part of us, though of course God is not limited as we are. Still, I tend to think of Jesus as an active part of God, His will made manifest, relative to the way our will and actions move to accomplish what we desire. It was through Jesus Christ that everything was created, and it was all created for Him, and all of creation is held together by Him. God wills something and it is Jesus Christ that moves to manifest and accomplish it. I think that is why Jesus said He did not know the day or the hour. It is like, nether does my hand know what to do before I will it to.
 
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Mark 16:19

After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God(The Father).
Christ has all authority & he said "I and the father are one". He also sits with the father on his throne. Also as a side note the white throne judgement will be judged by Christ & the Judgment Seat of Christ. Now that he's in Heaven he has returned to the glory he had with the Father before the world began
 
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1 Corinthians 11:3

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
 

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Considering the passages of John 8:59 and John 10:31 which suggests that they Jews tried to get Jesus stoned but he passed on their offer, one might mistakenly consider Jesus higher than God. :confused:

However, since it is written in John 5:26, "For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;" the passage in 1 Tim 6:16: "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen" then seem pretty obvious that the Immortal Son is higher than the mortal man.
 
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Jesus said that below. So does it really imply that God has a higher position & is more authoritative in a sense?

& yes, I'm clearly aware that Jesus is God too, part of the Trinity.

"You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" (John 14:28).
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,so whenever it refers to God being greater than Him,it is according to His humanity.

Php 2:4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus did not think because He was in the flesh that He was any less than what He was,and that is God,for He is still God but showing a visible manifestation of Himself,which the Bible says He is God with us.

God's Spirit is omnipresent,and fills all space,and cannot be separated,and God is through all,and in all,so even though Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,which means that God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus,the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God.

God appeared to Abraham twice in human form,once known as the LORD,and once known as Melchizedek,who was without descent,without mother,without father,having no beginning of days,or end of life,but we would still say that is God,but in a visible manifestation,the only way we can see the invisible God.

When we see God in a visible manifestation in heaven,will we say that is not God,for it is still God,the only way we can see Him.

Jesus still considered Himself God,even though He was manifest in flesh,that was not greater than God,but the flesh does not take away anything from Jesus being God.

1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Jesus is God who appeared in flesh to save the world,and we will never see Jesus as Him being God,we can only see Him as a visible manifestation that shows the characteristics of God.
 
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Considering the passages of John 8:59 and John 10:31 which suggests that they Jews tried to get Jesus stoned but he passed on their offer, one might mistakenly consider Jesus higher than God. :confused:
LOL. Good one. ;)
 
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Jesus said that below. So does it really imply that God has a higher position & is more authoritative in a sense?

& yes, I'm clearly aware that Jesus is God too, part of the Trinity.

"You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" (John 14:28).
I believe Jesus is God in flesh - they are the same person.
 
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I and my Father are one and the same -- Jesus.
 
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yes brothers and sisters in Christ, at this point of our journey in the form that Jesus has
made of us, we cannot even 'look' upon the Glory of God, for His countenance is far beyond
what our simple eyes can behold, and so He has made a way for us to behold Him, love Him,
worship Him through the person of Jesus Christ whom He calls His Son, His Right Arm, our Intercessor,
our Saviour...
 
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pottersclay

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Considering the passages of John 8:59 and John 10:31 which suggests that they Jews tried to get Jesus stoned but he passed on their offer, one might mistakenly consider Jesus higher than God. :confused:

However, since it is written in John 5:26, "For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;" the passage in 1 Tim 6:16: "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen" then seem pretty obvious that the Immortal Son is higher than the mortal man.
To the untrained eye and if someone didn't know the story....???? What could we make of this?
 
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For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form.-Colossians 2:9

The Bible cannot be any clearer! I pray in love that those who have not accepted the truth that Jesus is God(I AM) the Son due to a lack of reading comprehension skill or some other reason, may soon do.

Genesis 19:24 and Zechariah 12:10 clearly show Jesus in the Old Testament.(Jehovah's Witnesses changed these 2 verses in their 2013 NWT Bible from what it was in their own previous NWT Bibles!)

*****Jesus says we must honor the Son as we honor the Father, in John 5:23.
This means we must praise and worship Jesus exactly as we do God the Father.


I praise and worship you Jesus and Our Father and Holy Spirit.
 
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