Is healing promised to the believers?
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Amazing, since the Lord has miraculously healed me three times -- twice from a UTI, (which mean it never ends without lots of antibiotics), and two insect bites where I am very allergic to the insects yet nothing happened.
And hubby lives, although he should have died. He has cardiologists and EMTs in pure shock when they see him.
What you preach is your opinion, not truth.
And hubby lives, although he should have died. He has cardiologists and EMTs in pure shock when they see him.
What you preach is your opinion, not truth.
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Wrong again. Ultimately we have to come to God's truth. Truth ain't truth if it's not always true or okay to call something else that disagrees with the truth "truth" also.
You really do believe what you want to believe. What's bad/wrong is that what you want to believe isn't what God has told us. It's not truth. And yet, you spend a lot of time trolling (in the fishing sense) for people to hook onto your beliefs. Which means, BTW, you aren't even that confident enough in what you believe, but keep hoping if you can talk enough others into it, it becomes truth. It doesn't work like that.
You really do believe what you want to believe. What's bad/wrong is that what you want to believe isn't what God has told us. It's not truth. And yet, you spend a lot of time trolling (in the fishing sense) for people to hook onto your beliefs. Which means, BTW, you aren't even that confident enough in what you believe, but keep hoping if you can talk enough others into it, it becomes truth. It doesn't work like that.
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There is only one reason we are healed. The same reason we aren't healed. God is sovereign and will always get his good will. And his will includes the good for his people and his wrath for all others.
It has nothing to do with my mad skills, my wants, my dares, my not looking this way or that way. It's about the Lord and him alone.
It has nothing to do with my mad skills, my wants, my dares, my not looking this way or that way. It's about the Lord and him alone.
Jesus NEVER tells us or assures us when our healing will occur...!!!
for us, it reads and sounds like it will be an automatic thing, 'after our Judgment'...
Praise God, for He definitely tells us that ALL who Love Him, will suffer persecusion'...
not to mention, 'willingly'...
for us, it reads and sounds like it will be an automatic thing, 'after our Judgment'...
Praise God, for He definitely tells us that ALL who Love Him, will suffer persecusion'...
not to mention, 'willingly'...
Unfortunately many Christians believe that the tribulation is coming from God Himself and are defeated before they even begin because they attribute to God things that the enemy is doing. The tribulation we get comes from 3 places.... The world...the flesh and the devil. God the Father promises the believer that IN Christ we have been delivered from our enemies and we see it come to pass by faith here.
Not by power nor by might but by MY Spirit says the Lord. Maybe you are not assured but many believers are and walk out their assurance each day. We can count on the promises of God to be ours not because we deserve them but because Jesus paid for them for us. The question is ... are we willing to step out and believe this?
If we don't believe., we won't see. No matter what the promises are if we don't believe we won't see it come to pass. It's just the way God has worked it out to be. Allow Him to take care of us and He will. Insist on taking care of our selves and He will also allow us to do that.
And it's a day by day faith walk journey. He gives us grace for today and that is where we have to walk. If we worry about tomorrow we are not walking in faith TODAY.
Truth is the truth whether we see it or not.... Truth stands regardless of our power to see it. That is how it works. So we better make it a point to pray the Holy Spirit shows us the truth and be willing to accept it. And thanks to Jesus we have the opportunity to see truth more and more revealed as we walk in the Spirit by grace through faith. Believing what the Bible says as the Spirit reveals it is the only way to walk or else life will be the pits.
We may have experienced things in our lives that did not give us healing or a solution and to us that is our truth but we must be willing to look away from our ideas and experiences and believe Jesus instead even if it makes no sense in the natural and if it contradicts our prior experiences and beliefs.
We can each match up experience for experience but that is no matter. It's the truth that Jesus gives in the Bible through His Spirit that matters. While I can appreciate what you and your husband have been through., I cannot make it my truth even if that annoys you. Calling me a troll to sooth your anger is not going to help you become a better Christian. It might give you momentary satisfaction to try and zap with your words but in reality it only hurts you.
joanie,
this truly hurts us to say this to you, but, you have been 'spelled' and are under
the illusion of the demonic powers that rule this fallen=world...
the called of God, who truly SERVE HIM, definitely do no agree with what you
are espousing, in any way or form...you are a child of this 'fallen=world, and all
of it's deceptions that are so easily believed...
we Love you very much, and pray that very soon Jesus will open your heart
to His calling of the True and Holy Words of God...
this truly hurts us to say this to you, but, you have been 'spelled' and are under
the illusion of the demonic powers that rule this fallen=world...
the called of God, who truly SERVE HIM, definitely do no agree with what you
are espousing, in any way or form...you are a child of this 'fallen=world, and all
of it's deceptions that are so easily believed...
we Love you very much, and pray that very soon Jesus will open your heart
to His calling of the True and Holy Words of God...
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Why is she deceived? Because she interpreted that passage in James to include physical healing? Are you aware how many Christians interpret that verse in that way?
There are many things we still don't fully understand. Just because you interpret a verse in healing differently than she does does not make her deceived.
There are many things we still don't fully understand. Just because you interpret a verse in healing differently than she does does not make her deceived.
No sir, a wound is not sickness. A cold or the flu would constitute a sickness.
The bible doesn't say that we won't die some day, and neither am I saying such.
It just says we don't have to go defeated and sick.
My wife's relatives all died a ripe old age of over 100 years of old, without being sick, and if they can do it based on the promises of God, then so can we, seeing that God is not a respecter of persons.
The bible doesn't say that we won't die some day, and neither am I saying such.
It just says we don't have to go defeated and sick.
My wife's relatives all died a ripe old age of over 100 years of old, without being sick, and if they can do it based on the promises of God, then so can we, seeing that God is not a respecter of persons.
There's nothing wrong with the physical things of this world, so long as we don't lust after them and put them before God and man.
And both physical wealth and health is a blessing of and from God if we don't abuse it.
Poverty or being in need and ill health is a curse, and the devil is the one causing it, due to sins we commit.
We can have our cake and eat it too by having good health here and in heaven. It is written, "Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven."
That is to say, if God wants you sick here, then His will won't be any different for you in heaven, and if He wants you healthy here, then His will for you will be for you to have good health in heaven.
God doesn't change His mind about your health just once you're in heaven.
As His will is in heaven, so it is for you here on earth.
And both physical wealth and health is a blessing of and from God if we don't abuse it.
Poverty or being in need and ill health is a curse, and the devil is the one causing it, due to sins we commit.
We can have our cake and eat it too by having good health here and in heaven. It is written, "Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven."
That is to say, if God wants you sick here, then His will won't be any different for you in heaven, and if He wants you healthy here, then His will for you will be for you to have good health in heaven.
God doesn't change His mind about your health just once you're in heaven.
As His will is in heaven, so it is for you here on earth.
What is written?
Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
Mar 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Mar 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
That should answer your question.
So yes, it is BECAUSE of the surety of the person that the mountain would obey.
As it is written, so it will be done.
So far however, no one we know of has rearranged the mountains anywhere in the world as yet, but it is possible.
Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
Mar 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Mar 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
That should answer your question.
So yes, it is BECAUSE of the surety of the person that the mountain would obey.
As it is written, so it will be done.
So far however, no one we know of has rearranged the mountains anywhere in the world as yet, but it is possible.
I would guesstimate that at least 90 percent of the Christian that say they have faith for God to heal them or their loved ones, don't even know what faith is or how it works. And an even higher percentage will have doubts after they prayed at some point.
I certainly don't go out of my way to insult people, but if they can't handle the truth, the problem is not mine, but theirs.
Like the unbelievers going to hell because of their sins, the Christian has a problem handling the fact that the majority of cases, their sins were the cause of the problem. It's the law of reaping what one sows, and God is the one who enforces it.
And most people started sowing the seeds with their mouth.
I certainly don't go out of my way to insult people, but if they can't handle the truth, the problem is not mine, but theirs.
Like the unbelievers going to hell because of their sins, the Christian has a problem handling the fact that the majority of cases, their sins were the cause of the problem. It's the law of reaping what one sows, and God is the one who enforces it.
And most people started sowing the seeds with their mouth.
I know one day I will have perfect healing but it may not be on this side of the grave. A life without some struggle is not the greatest blessing. We look at all discomfort as something that must be eliminated but the growth and reliance on God that comes during these times is so important. Why are we here? For relationship with God. Whatever grows that relationship is a blessing. These are my thoughts and experience.
Many believe Paul was sick.., or blind... as if God gave him sickness after He sent Jesus to heal us from all our sicknesses and diseases.
But the truth is Paul was not sick. He was praying that God would deliver him from the enemy (messengers of satan) ungodly people followed Paul to every place he preached to discourage and bother him.
God told Paul His grace was sufficient. God doesn't send sickness to "teach us a lesson" or stop us from being prideful. We have the Holy Spirit and the Bible to teach us (the washing of the water of the Word)
God told Paul His grace was sufficient. God doesn't send sickness to "teach us a lesson" or stop us from being prideful. We have the Holy Spirit and the Bible to teach us (the washing of the water of the Word)
It's one thing to say things like, "It doesn't work like that", and it's another to be able to back it up with scripture.
One has no weight and the other does.
Instead of arguing with your carnally minded logic, why don't you start by disproving the scriptures we use, like some have done.
What you said about truth however, is indeed true.
Truth is not truth if it fails to be consistently or perpetually, which would make it a law.
For example the law or truth of addition is, one plus one equals two.
It doesn't matter how many time you do the math or arrange them, it will forever be the same.
That being said, the promises of God are truths that have to work 100 percent of the time or they would cease to be truths. Which means that God cannot ever let, even the smallest part of any of all the promises He's made, fail. If it did fail, then it would cease to be a truth or law. So God watch over and hastens to perform His word or promises saying that He would not suffer His faithfulness to fail, which is why we hold fast to the profession of our faith without wavering, for He is faithful who promised.
The word of God, my rock and strong foundation, upon which we should build our faith.
One has no weight and the other does.
Instead of arguing with your carnally minded logic, why don't you start by disproving the scriptures we use, like some have done.
What you said about truth however, is indeed true.
Truth is not truth if it fails to be consistently or perpetually, which would make it a law.
For example the law or truth of addition is, one plus one equals two.
It doesn't matter how many time you do the math or arrange them, it will forever be the same.
That being said, the promises of God are truths that have to work 100 percent of the time or they would cease to be truths. Which means that God cannot ever let, even the smallest part of any of all the promises He's made, fail. If it did fail, then it would cease to be a truth or law. So God watch over and hastens to perform His word or promises saying that He would not suffer His faithfulness to fail, which is why we hold fast to the profession of our faith without wavering, for He is faithful who promised.
The word of God, my rock and strong foundation, upon which we should build our faith.
Scripture again please.
Tell me if you can, is sickness or disease a good thing or bad? Is it a blessing or curse?
Let's say you had a child and this child got sick at some point in their life while you were raising them.
As a loving parent, would you call that sickness a good thing or bad?
If your child was afflicted and suffering from a sickness, would that be something you would want them to have? Would it be something you would put on them to teach them a lesson?
Mat 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Why in heaven's name would you think and teach others that God would be any different than what you would want and do for your own child?
If you think sickness is a good thing, then yes, you could say it is God's will for that child to be sick, but let them know that God is going to make sure they get sick in heaven as well because His desire is for His will to be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Is healing and good health a good thing?
Then that is what a loving Father's will is for every child of His. To say otherwise is to teach contrary to the word and will of God.
Tell me if you can, is sickness or disease a good thing or bad? Is it a blessing or curse?
Let's say you had a child and this child got sick at some point in their life while you were raising them.
As a loving parent, would you call that sickness a good thing or bad?
If your child was afflicted and suffering from a sickness, would that be something you would want them to have? Would it be something you would put on them to teach them a lesson?
Mat 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Why in heaven's name would you think and teach others that God would be any different than what you would want and do for your own child?
If you think sickness is a good thing, then yes, you could say it is God's will for that child to be sick, but let them know that God is going to make sure they get sick in heaven as well because His desire is for His will to be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Is healing and good health a good thing?
Then that is what a loving Father's will is for every child of His. To say otherwise is to teach contrary to the word and will of God.