is it okay to eat halal food by christians?

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sureshjames

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i want to know whether christians are permitted to eat halal food or not ?
 

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1Timothy 4:1-5
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Mark 7:19
For it doesn't go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)



It is okay to eat halal and haraam foods...

But be warned...

1 Corinthians 8:13
Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.

Romans 14:1-23
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...
 

presidente

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Why would eating halal food be forbidden? Do Christians have to eat pork, frogs, or certain types of crabs? Chicken or beef sold by Christians or Jews is supposed to be halal, isn't it?
 
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God's message, with the vision of the animals let down from heaven in a blanket, telling his Jewish prophet that it's okay to go eat in the house of a gentile, was a message of inclusiveness of other races and cultures, not a mandate to avoid any culture or race.
 
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I think when Christians are sceptical of Halal food, it's because the process which is used often includes prayers, offering the animal to Allah.
As Christians, we often say grace, or the blessing over our food before we eat it. The blessing of God out-weights anything of the enemy.
 
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Why would eating halal food be forbidden?
Allah is an idol, a projection of the person of Mahomet onto God. Actually Allah was a moon god before becoming made in Mahomet's image. Halal food is effectively food sacrificed to Mahomet. Would I eat it? No.

In Roms 14, Paul seemed to be referring to an open meat market where choice of food was limited. But halal food will be specifically labelled as such, and it seems perverse for anyone to choose it in preference to anything else. Why would a Christian choose to buy a statue of the goddess Artemis? It's just not something you'd do. You'd want whoever was profiting from your purchase to be a Christian, not a muslim.
 
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[SUP]27[/SUP]If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. [SUP]30 [/SUP]If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?[SUP]31 [/SUP]So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. (1 Corinthians 10:27, 30, 31)
 
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i want to know whether christians are permitted to eat halal food or not ?
Yes even if they do commit halaal to Allah, we know that Allah is not our Lord Jesus, and if we pray to Him, Jesus who made all the food the Muslims offer to Allah, we know Jesus made them for then they CANNOT offer something Jesus did not give life too.

It is Jesus and Father that made ALL the food , HALAAL food and all others. Muslm's Allah does not even exist, so how can they offer him something.

HEre is what you do... You thank Jesus for the food you are wbout to eat, and ask Him to bless it. Like this...

We thank you Jesus, Father for our food, bless our food and us with your Spirit, AMEN!

Then this happened.. what God has blessed no man can call unclean!
 

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Allah is an idol, a projection of the person of Mahomet onto God. Actually Allah was a moon god before becoming made in Mahomet's image. Halal food is effectively food sacrificed to Mahomet. Would I eat it? No.
Historical linguistic derivations would have 'Allah' be cognate with 'Eloah', the Hebrew word for God. That's more than you can say for the English word 'god.' If some pagans called the moon 'god', would that mean you couldn't use the word?

What evidence exists would seem to indicate that the Christians called God 'Allah' before Muhammad. Evidence is scant since they left behind no written liturgies or translations that we know of. But one of the early saints who won Arabs was called Abdullah, a contracted form of Abdul Allah, which means servant of 'Allah, and 'Abdullah' was a Christian baptism name. Now, Christians don't usually get named "Apollos' though he was an early saint. His name is too pagan. I suppose you could argue that Abdullah had a pagan name, but that seems unlikely. If the Sabeans called the moon 'the god' and the sun 'the goddess' why would their name for 'the God'-- 'Allah' be rendered unusable.

Consider the cognate word in Hebrew 'Eloah' or 'El' or 'Elohim'. Those words were used for false gods, too. The Ugarits had a head of their pantheon they called 'El' who got drunk and fell in his own excrement. That's not the 'El of the Bible. It was their false 'El, though.

Muslims have a different concept of God than that presented in the Bible in many respects, but they do claim to worship the God of Abraham.

Christians in the 'Arabic speaking world call God 'Allah. So do Christians in various other parts of the world like Indonesia. (Malaysia doesn't allow it, though the names are similar.)

What exactly is involved in Islamic meat being deemed 'halal?' If you had a choice between Hindu food and Muslim food, which one would you eat? At least with halal food, there has been some attempt to remove the blood. They probably aren't as diligent at food preparation as the Jews are.
 
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i want to know whether christians are permitted to eat halal food or not ?
1 Corithians 10

14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
15 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
18 Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
 
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[SUP]27[/SUP]If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. [SUP]30 [/SUP]If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?[SUP]31 [/SUP]So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. (1 Corinthians 10:27, 30, 31)
Would you eat from a witch ?
 
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1Timothy 4:1-5
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Mark 7:19
For it doesn't go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)



It is okay to eat halal and haraam foods...

But be warned...

1 Corinthians 8:13
Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.

Romans 14:1-23
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...
Would you eat blood why or Why not ?
 
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Ace85

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It would depend on the circumstances involved. Would I be wanting to be a good influence in their life? Would I want to share Jesus with them? Would I want to judge them and make them feel terrible about themselves? There have been missionaries that throughout history have gone into the 'unknown' areas of the world, preaching about Jesus and bringing them the Word of God. Do you think that a missionary would hesitate to sit and eat with a tribe because their food isn't what they're used to? It's an insult to not except food in that context. The blessing of the food we eat - no matter where in the world, or who it is cooked by - far outweighs anything offered to an idol/false god/the enemy. Don't let the enemy have power over your life!
 
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Would you eat from a witch ?
I did, and her witchcraft tumbled to pieces.... Evil CANNOT stand in the light, not even over a meal of ALL THINGS GOD MADE! A witch CANNOT produce life, not even to corn or wheat or fish or beef.... A witch only has power of evil, also a gift of God. God said He would give them great powers to do many wonderful and great works, but it is STILL GOD giveing them the ehings they do. I am no partaker in witchcraft, and I do not sin in the council of evil. but I do protect the ones under their spell. and I do give refuge FROM evil.

If I pray for ANYTHING God made, it CANNOT harm me. no matter what it is. Snakebite, Spiderbite, harmful fish, poison, if God protects, HE PROTECTS... and NOTHING of the evil can touch me. NOTHING. I KEEPETH myself... IN what? In God's protection with faith and prayer.... The feverent prayer of the righteous brakes ALL SPELLS and EVIL BONDS.... All!

But like Paul I will advize you Isdaniel not to eat what you have boubts in. If you cannot eat with FAITH, do NOT EAT! And that goes to all who has small faith, or no faith. If you are not strong in faith REMAIN IN THE FAITH until God gives you more.

A witch gave up in three weeks, and she was the toughest one in Vendaland. Many powerul forces met in Venda, but God was the Victorer, that is why we build two churches there that few months.
 
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I did, and her witchcraft tumbled to pieces.... Evil CANNOT stand in the light, not even over a meal of ALL THINGS GOD MADE! A witch CANNOT produce life, not even to corn or wheat or fish or beef.... A witch only has power of evil, also a gift of God. God said He would give them great powers to do many wonderful and great works, but it is STILL GOD giveing them the ehings they do. I am no partaker in witchcraft, and I do not sin in the council of evil. but I do protect the ones under their spell. and I do give refuge FROM evil.

If I pray for ANYTHING God made, it CANNOT harm me. no matter what it is. Snakebite, Spiderbite, harmful fish, poison, if God protects, HE PROTECTS... and NOTHING of the evil can touch me. NOTHING. I KEEPETH myself... IN what? In God's protection with faith and prayer.... The feverent prayer of the righteous brakes ALL SPELLS and EVIL BONDS.... All!

But like Paul I will advize you Isdaniel not to eat what you have boubts in. If you cannot eat with FAITH, do NOT EAT! And that goes to all who has small faith, or no faith. If you are not strong in faith REMAIN IN THE FAITH until God gives you more.

A witch gave up in three weeks, and she was the toughest one in Vendaland. Many powerul forces met in Venda, but God was the Victorer, that is why we build two churches there that few months.
You remind of a fool who said God would protect me and went a hugged a lion hmm well the rest is History

Abstain all appearence of evil


Mark 16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

This does not say go and play with snakes or drink dealy thing on purpose
 
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It would depend on the circumstances involved. Would I be wanting to be a good influence in their life? Would I want to share Jesus with them? Would I want to judge them and make them feel terrible about themselves? There have been missionaries that throughout history have gone into the 'unknown' areas of the world, preaching about Jesus and bringing them the Word of God. Do you think that a missionary would hesitate to sit and eat with a tribe because their food isn't what they're used to? It's an insult to not except food in that context. The blessing of the food we eat - no matter where in the world, or who it is cooked by - far outweighs anything offered to an idol/false god/the enemy. Don't let the enemy have power over your life!
hmmm i wonder if the tribe are canibals hmmm tell me how the human flesh would taste ok hmmmmmm
 
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Whay does Paul say this then

Acts 15
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.


 
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[h=3]Numbers 25[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 And Israel abode in Shittim, and the people began to commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab.
2 And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their gods: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their gods.
3 And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel.
4 And the Lord said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun, that the fierce anger of the Lord may be turned away from Israel.
5 And Moses said unto the judges of Israel, Slay ye every one his men that were joined unto Baalpeor.
 
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Historical linguistic derivations would have 'Allah' be cognate with 'Eloah', the Hebrew word for God. That's more than you can say for the English word 'god.' If some pagans called the moon 'god', would that mean you couldn't use the word?

What evidence exists would seem to indicate that the Christians called God 'Allah' before Muhammad. Evidence is scant since they left behind no written liturgies or translations that we know of. But one of the early saints who won Arabs was called Abdullah, a contracted form of Abdul Allah, which means servant of 'Allah, and 'Abdullah' was a Christian baptism name. Now, Christians don't usually get named "Apollos' though he was an early saint. His name is too pagan. I suppose you could argue that Abdullah had a pagan name, but that seems unlikely. If the Sabeans called the moon 'the god' and the sun 'the goddess' why would their name for 'the God'-- 'Allah' be rendered unusable.

Consider the cognate word in Hebrew 'Eloah' or 'El' or 'Elohim'. Those words were used for false gods, too. The Ugarits had a head of their pantheon they called 'El' who got drunk and fell in his own excrement. That's not the 'El of the Bible. It was their false 'El, though.

Muslims have a different concept of God than that presented in the Bible in many respects, but they do claim to worship the God of Abraham.

Christians in the 'Arabic speaking world call God 'Allah. So do Christians in various other parts of the world like Indonesia. (Malaysia doesn't allow it, though the names are similar.)

What exactly is involved in Islamic meat being deemed 'halal?' If you had a choice between Hindu food and Muslim food, which one would you eat? At least with halal food, there has been some attempt to remove the blood. They probably aren't as diligent at food preparation as the Jews are.
I am not objecting to the arabic word Allah. It's what he represents to the preparers of halal food that counts. I agree that generic names are not necessarily idol names, but sometimes they are. To Muslims Allah is an idol, the God who had no son and who licenses them to kill Christians. That's what matters. And no, I don't eat Hindu idol food either.
 
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Whay does Paul say this then

Acts 15
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.



Isdaniel we should NEVER eat blood, or an animal strangled, for the soul is in the blood. But the meat that is proparely slaughtered of which I did many, is ALL clean. ALL of them. But no-one should eat blood or strangled animals. Even if I catch a fish I always break the bottom neck where th main artery runs, to BLEED the fsih. It is amazing how white the meat is then.


So Isdaniel strngled and sluaghtered is the difference not the sort or offering. We should not eat or drink blood, the soul is in the blood.

The food or meat if slaughtered properly will never offend God does not matter who did what with it, God made that animal and He knows it is all well.... It is the offering and adultery spirits and ungodly things arounfd the animal that offend God not the food itself.
 
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