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Hizikyah

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Is it possible to be a part of the covenant ratified in the blood of Messiah and reject the Law/Instructions as written*?

*Talking about the New/Renewed Covenant in the blodd of Yahshua/Jesus, in which His blood fulfills the sacrificial Law in that if we accept Him there is no other sufficent or needed scarifice.

1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”

Ephesians 3:17, “that the Messiah might dwell in your hearts through belief – having become rooted and grounded in love”

Ezekiel 36:26-28, "A new heart, will I also give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and will give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments, and do them. And you will dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you will be My people, and I will be your Father."

Ezekiel 11:19-21, “And I shall give them one heart, and put a new spirit within you. And I shall take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, so that they walk in My laws, and guard My right-rulings, and shall do them. And they shall be My people and I shall be their Strength. But to those whose hearts walk after the heart of their disgusting matters and their abominations, I shall recompense their deeds on their own heads,” declares the Master יהוה.”

Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."

Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”

Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."

2 Corinthians 5:17, “Therefore, if anyone is in Messiah, he is a renewed creature – the old matters have passed away, see, all matters have become renewed!”

Mat 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

iniquity” is word # G0458 - anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459, Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law, 1a) because ignorant of it, 1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

I want to point out that the words that are in italics* are ADDED, thus changing the meaning of the passage:

Ephesians 2:15-16, (NKJV), "having abolished in His flesh the enmity,*that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. "

Not only does the next verse tell us what was abolished, but when you remove the ADDED words the meaning changes.

Ephesians 2:15-16, "Abolishing the enmity Law, the Commandments, and the Ordinances, through His own flesh, in order to create in Himself one new man from the two; making peace, That would reconcile both in one body to YHWH through the sacrifice--having killed the enmity through Himself."

Strong's Concordance, “enmity” is word #G2189 echthra: enmity, hostility, Original Word: ἔχθρα, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: echthra, Phonetic Spelling: (ekh'-thrah), Short Definition: enmity, hostility, Definition: enmity, hostility, alienation.

Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) Feminine of G2190; hostility; by implication a reason for opposition:—enmity, hatred.

The opposition to YHWH's Law abolished, not the Law it's self.
So if we were to remove the added words in italics , we would have;

Ephesians 2:15-16, "Abolishing the enmity Law, the Commandments, and the Ordinances, through His own flesh, in order to create in Himself one new man from the two; making peace, That would reconcile both in one body to YHWH through the sacrifice--having killed the enmity through Himself."

Romans 8:1, "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

1 John/Yahanan 2:6, "He who says he abides in Him, is himself also obligated to walk as He walked."

1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”
 

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No such thing as a renewed covenant - it's NEW.

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

You omitted the context in your attempt at pulling the wool over peoples eyes.

Not only that the new is a covenant of life and not death as Paul states the old covenant was:

2 Cor 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

 

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Ephesians 6:2-3, "Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."

The Hebrew word for “new”/”re-new” is the word “chadash.” In Strong’s Concordance it has 3 entries; #H2318, #H2319, and #H2320. If you look at the light blue boxes the original Hebrew word is highlighted in yellow. It is the same ancient Hebrew word for all 3 entries, however there is a difference in the vowel pointing. Vowel pointing was not in the original Manuscripts, and was added to the written Hebrew language from 600CE-1,100CE. Without the added vowel points it is only one word, not 3.

Ezekiyl 36:26, “And I shall give you a new (#H2318) heart and put a new (#H2318) spirit within you. And I shall take the heart of stone out of your flesh, and I shall give you a heart of flesh.”

(#H2318) or “chadash” is used in this passage, believed to be written by Ezekiyl sometime between the years 597BCE-562BCE, and it did not contain vowel points, because they were not invented until 600CE-1,100CE, a minimum of 1,200 years after Ezekiyl wrote his book.

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If we look to the Septuagint (a Greek translation of the Hebrew “OT” we find a clue to the original words use and meaning;

Two Greek words, neos and kainos, have been rendered as “new” in almost all translations. The latter’s meaning differs from the former, and is derived from the verb kainoo, which means “to make new.” The Hebrew equivalent of this verb is chadash, which means “to renew.” For this reason we have rendered kainos as “fresh” or as “renewed.”

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 89:26-37, “He calls out to Me, ‘You are my Father, My Ĕl, and the rock of my deliverance.’ I also appoint him first-born, Highest of the sovereigns of the earth. I guard My kindness for him forever, And My covenant is steadfast with him. And I shall establish his seed forever, And his throne as the days of the heavens. If his sons forsake My Torah And do not walk in My right-rulings, If they profane My laws And do not guard My commands, Then I shall visit their transgression with the rod, And their crookedness with flogging. But My kindness I do not take away from him, Nor be false to My trustworthiness. I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips. Once I have sworn by My set-apartness, I do not lie to Dawiḏ: His seed shall be forever, And his throne as the sun before Me; Like the moon, it is established forever, And the witness in the heaven is steadfast.” Selah.[/FONT]



"My covenant will stand fast with Him"

"My covenant I will not break, nor will I change what that has gone out of My lips. Once for all, I have vowed by My holiness – I cannot lie"

If He does not change and He does not lie, how is all the Instructions non-binding?

Man may break covenant with Yah, but as Yah says, "My covenant I will not break". The Hand of Yah is always out offering the same offer that He has always offered to mankind.... however we are in a new age that was spoken of in Scripture:

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws..."

2 Thessalonians 2:7, "7 For the mystery of iniquity is already working, but the One restraining him will continue to restrain him, until he is made to appear in the midst. And then that lawless one will be revealed, whom Yahshua will remove with the breath of His mouth, and make powerless with the appearance of His coming-- Whose coming is according to the energy of Satan…"

Psalms 81:3, "Blow the trumpet at the new moon, At the full moon, on our feast day. "

The word for new/renew covenant, is the same word for new/renew moon. Some use the "new Covenant" teaching in place of the "renewed Covenant" truth to cast aside what the Messiah taught, the Sent One, the Only Shepherd, the One Moses said we must hear and obey, Yahshua/Jesus…

Psalm 89:28,34:, "My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him." v34"My covenant I will not break, nor will I change the Law that has gone out of My lips."

 

Hizikyah

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Isaiah 53:11
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
 

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Isaiah 53:11
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Isayah 44:22, "“I shall wipe out your transgressions like a cloud, and your sins like a mist. Return to Me, for I shall redeem you.”

 

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I would encourage anyone who wishes to do so, read Ephesians 2 in the official jewish Bible. it is NOT saying what the o.p. is saying.

using real sources helps to sort threw the Hebrew roots deception.
 

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Christians are under the New Covenant, ratified with the shed blood of Christ. They may not reject the Old Testament, neither may they reject the Ten Commandments, since both are valid in the New Covenant.

However, Paul's epistle to the Hebrews explains that the Old Covenant (ratified with the blood of bulls and goats) is now obsolete, having been replaced by the New (and better) Covenant. Therefore many of the commandments applicable to Israel no longer have any force. But the moral and spiritual laws of God cannot (and must not) be rejected.

There are far too many Christians who have not been taught the significance of the Ten Commandments under the Law of Christ. And many have been taught Antinomianism (lawlessnesss).
 

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I would encourage anyone who wishes to do so, read Ephesians 2 in the official jewish Bible. it is NOT saying what the o.p. is saying.

using real sources helps to sort threw the Hebrew roots deception.
I believe we should look at the original greek words rather than how particular translation dealt with it, and that is exactly what I did in fiding what I believe in this matter.

So the Jewish bible says;

"15 by destroying in his own body the enmity occasioned by the Torah, with its commands set forth in the form of ordinances. He did this in order to create in union with himself from the two groups a single new humanity and thus make shalom,"

LOL look at the greek, " occasioned by" is nowhere in the original text....

Also If He gives us a new heart (Ezekiel 36:26-28) that will keep His laws, and Yahshua says (Mat 5:18-19 & Revelation 21:1-2) the Law will not pass, then, mmmm, seems contrdictory to say the law is abolished in Eph 2....

So if the Law is not done away;

Matt 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahanan, saw the holy city, YHWH Shammah, coming down from YHWH out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father.”

And Yah says He will give us a heart to follow His Laws:

Ezekiel 36:26-28, "A new heart, will I also give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and will give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments, and do them. And you will dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you will be My people, and I will be your Father."

Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."

Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”

How is rejecting the Law proper for the follower of Yahshua/Jesus?
 

Hizikyah

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Christians are under the New Covenant, ratified with the shed blood of Christ. They may not reject the Old Testament, neither may they reject the Ten Commandments, since both are valid in the New Covenant.

However, Paul's epistle to the Hebrews explains that the Old Covenant (ratified with the blood of bulls and goats) is now obsolete, having been replaced by the New (and better) Covenant. Therefore many of the commandments applicable to Israel no longer have any force. But the moral and spiritual laws of God cannot (and must not) be rejected.

There are far too many Christians who have not been taught the significance of the Ten Commandments under the Law of Christ. And many have been taught Antinomianism (lawlessnesss).
This comes to mind;

Mat 7:21-23, "Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! Will enter into the Kingdom of YHWH, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."


iniquity” is word # G0458 - anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459, Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law, 1a) because ignorant of it, 1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness


Mat 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."
 

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In the Old Testament things were done physically that are now done spiritually, but it is the same law/covenant- yet it is new also because of this change. The physical way was nailed to the cross forevermore, yet we still need the physical examples in the Old Testament in order to understand the spiritual meanings in the New Testament- which is why not the least stroke of a pen will disappear- not because we are under its laws, we are not under them. (Romans 7:1-4, Matthew 28:18).

Old Testament physical circumcision (fake) was only a representation of New Testament spiritual circumcision of the heart (real). The laws written physically on stone (fake) only represented the laws written spiritually on our hearts (real). The sacrifice of the physically perfect lamb (fake) was only a shadow of the spiritually perfect Lamb (real). The blood of animals never washed away even one sin- it only represented Christ’s blood washing away sin (real). “These (physical) were only a shadow of things to come, the reality (spiritual) however is found in Christ.

So we can learn from the physical law of Moses, but we are not under it- we are under the spiritual law of Christ. Having said that, the Old Testament will still be part of the Bible and still be with us until Christ’s return, but we are not under its laws, we are under New Testament laws. We need to rightly divide the Word- what is in the Old Testament stays in the Old Testament, what is in the New Testament stays in the New Testament.
 
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Nehemiah6

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Old Testament physical circumcision (fake) was only a representation of New Testament spiritual circumcision of the heart (real). The laws written physically on stone (fake) only represented the laws written spiritually on our hearts (real). The sacrifice of the physically perfect lamb (fake) was only a shadow of the spiritually perfect Lamb (real).
Your use of the term "fake" is totally inappropriate, and does not belong in this discussion. God does not promote fakery. Physical circumcision, for example, was meant to imply spiritual circumcision and the token of a covenant between God and Israel. It had real spiritual meaning.

And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. (Gen 17:11)
 
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Hey. You are inserting the wrong language to the New Testament text, it is in greek not hebrew.
Another unfortunate fact for the hebrew roots movement to deal with is the fact that hebrew was practically a dead language in Jesus' time. Most Jews spoke Aramaic and most people spoke greek, so give this hebrew roots movement a rest.
Another thing to consider is that the Apostles quote not from the hebrew Old Testament but frequently from the Septuagint, which is also in greek.
Now that we have adressed that strange habit of adding hebrew words to NT texts that do not exist in the originals, but are purely inserted for who knows what reason? If its hebrew, it has to be right! That is the mentality?

As a brother pointed out earlier in the thread: If you look at the Jewish Bible in Ephesians 2, it is not saying at all what the OP is trying to make it say. You responded to him by saying "we should look at the original greek" yet as I pointed out above, you are inserting hebrew words into the greek text that do not exist just to appear more hebrew, so that argument holds no water.

We need to steer clear of this NEW and STRANGE doctrine of "hebrew" roots, trying to bring people into half-way Torah obedience, how many of you guys actually gather in Jerusalem during the "appointed times"? Not many. How many of you actually live in a tent during the feast of booths? How many offer animal sacrifices? Oh but those were done away in Christ right? Well I thought all of the Torah still stands so, you need to start working on the temple and fast.

One final embarrasing fact is that most Jews who are christians do not agree with the hebrew roots people, AND to top it all off, as brother mailmandan had pointed out, we are given many commandments in the NT, with the ceremonial laws of the Torah carefully left out each and everytime, never mentioned.

In fact, threads like this are a stumbling block for new Christians, casting doubts on their life, yeah they may have repented and turned to God, however they do not wear tassels, so maybe they are not part of the "renewed" covenant?
This is the danger of the hebrew roots movement.
 

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Do you know why it is a New Covenant and not a re-newed Covenant?

Because people failed at the Old Covenant. They could not fulfill their end of the covenant.

The Law is not of faith. But the New Covenant is all about faith. You can't mix the covenants together or you find yourself striving to perform the principles that are only given as gifts by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

It makes for a pretty good religion, though, if you are more into that. The Lord Jesus Christ Himself didn't care much for it though, as witnessed by His Words to the Pharisees.
 

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In the Old Testament things were done physically that are now done spiritually, but it is the same law/covenant- yet it is new also because of this change. The physical way was nailed to the cross forevermore, yet we still need the physical examples in the Old Testament in order to understand the spiritual meanings in the New Testament- which is why not the least stroke of a pen will disappear- not because we are under its laws, we are not under them. (Romans 7:1-4, Matthew 28:18).

Old Testament physical circumcision (fake) was only a representation of New Testament spiritual circumcision of the heart (real). The laws written physically on stone (fake) only represented the laws written spiritually on our hearts (real). The sacrifice of the physically perfect lamb (fake) was only a shadow of the spiritually perfect Lamb (real). The blood of animals never washed away even one sin- it only represented Christ’s blood washing away sin (real). “These (physical) were only a shadow of things to come, the reality (spiritual) however is found in Christ.

So we can learn from the physical law of Moses, but we are not under it- we are under the spiritual law of Christ. Having said that, the Old Testament will still be part of the Bible and still be with us until Christ’s return, but we are not under its laws, we are under New Testament laws. We need to rightly divide the Word- what is in the Old Testament stays in the Old Testament, what is in the New Testament stays in the New Testament.


Your use of the term "fake" is totally inappropriate, and does not belong in this discussion. God does not promote fakery. Physical circumcision, for example, was meant to imply spiritual circumcision and the token of a covenant between God and Israel. It had real spiritual meaning.

And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. (Gen 17:11)
Yeah even in the OT circumcision was more than a physical ordanance;

Deuteronomy 10:16, “And you shall circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and harden your neck no more.”

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 30:6, “And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Elohim shall circumcise your heart and the heart of your seed, to love [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Elohim with all your heart and with all your being, so that you might live,"Deuteronomy 30:7, and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Elohim shall put all these curses on your enemies and on those who hate you, who persecuted you."Deuteronomy 30:8, “And you shall turn back and obey the voice of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and do all His commands which I command you today."[/FONT]


 

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Do you know why it is a New Covenant and not a re-newed Covenant?

Because people failed at the Old Covenant. They could not fulfill their end of the covenant.

The Law is not of faith. But the New Covenant is all about faith. You can't mix the covenants together or you find yourself striving to perform the principles that are only given as gifts by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

It makes for a pretty good religion, though, if you are more into that. The Lord Jesus Christ Himself didn't care much for it though, as witnessed by His Words to the Pharisees.
Ok but the word chadash translated "new" does not mean new. It literally means to renew or to make new.

Also Yah says same covenant standing fast with Yahshua/Jesus;

Psalm 89:26-37, "He will call out to Me; You are my Father, O YHWH! You are the Rock of my salvation! And I will make Him My firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him. And I will establish his Seed forever, and his throne will be as the days of heaven. Should his children forsake My Law, and refuse to walk in My judgments; Should they profane My statutes, and fail to keep My commandments; Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with lashes from the whip. Nevertheless, My lovingkindness I will not utterly withdraw from him, nor will I ever betray My faithfulness. My covenant I will not break, nor will I change what that has gone out of My lips. Once for all, I have vowed by My holiness--I cannot lie, and I say to David: His Seed will endure forever, and his throne will endure before Me like the sun. His throne will be established forever like the moon: the faithful witness in the sky."

It's the same agreement on His be.

It His words not mine; "My covenant will stand fast with Him"

The prahirsees and Jews had twisted it, that does not maen they actually damaged it, orthat Yah has to now change it, Yah knew it was going to happen. Yah knew who the real Passover Lamb was even if every human did not...
 

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YES Yes Yes [10c]
 

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In the scroll of the Book it is prescribed for me. I have delighted to do Your pleasure, O my Strength, And Your Torah is within my heart. I have proclaimed the good news of righteousness, In the great assembly; See, I do not restrain my lips, O יהוה, You know. I did not conceal Your righteousness within my heart; I have declared Your trustworthiness and Your deliverance; I did not hide Your kindness and Your truth From the great assembly. Do not withhold Your compassion from me, O יהוה; Let Your kindness and Your truth always watch over me.
 

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Ok but the word chadash translated "new" does not mean new. It literally means to renew or to make new.

Also Yah says same covenant standing fast with Yahshua/Jesus;

Psalm 89:26-37, "He will call out to Me; You are my Father, O YHWH! You are the Rock of my salvation! And I will make Him My firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him. And I will establish his Seed forever, and his throne will be as the days of heaven. Should his children forsake My Law, and refuse to walk in My judgments; Should they profane My statutes, and fail to keep My commandments; Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with lashes from the whip. Nevertheless, My lovingkindness I will not utterly withdraw from him, nor will I ever betray My faithfulness. My covenant I will not break, nor will I change what that has gone out of My lips. Once for all, I have vowed by My holiness--I cannot lie, and I say to David: His Seed will endure forever, and his throne will endure before Me like the sun. His throne will be established forever like the moon: the faithful witness in the sky."

It's the same agreement on His be.

It His words not mine; "My covenant will stand fast with Him"

The prahirsees and Jews had twisted it, that does not maen they actually damaged it, orthat Yah has to now change it, Yah knew it was going to happen. Yah knew who the real Passover Lamb was even if every human did not...
God did change it. He always meant to change it. The Law was a lesson for people to realize that they cannot perform the standard that God requires.

Just like King Saul was a lesson to the Israelites that what they THOUGHT was a good king was not what God thought a good king would be.

Hebrews 7:11-19
[FONT=&quot]11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.


Can you answer the question in verse 11??


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Hizikyah

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God did change it. He always meant to change it. The Law was a lesson for people to realize that they cannot perform the standard that God requires.

Just like King Saul was a lesson to the Israelites that what they THOUGHT was a good king was not what God thought a good king would be.

Hebrews 7:11-19
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.


Can you answer the question in verse 11??


Yeah the Levitical Priesthood is abolished, not the Laws of the priesthood... Look at the context of that chaoter and even the entire book to the Hebrews...

Hebrews 4:1-15, "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest Who has ascended into the heavens: Yahshua the Son of YHWH, let us hold fast our profession. For we do not have a High Priest Who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all ways tempted as we are--yet was without sin."

Hebrews 9:11-12, "But the Messiah came near as a High Priest over the righteous things to come, with the great and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation; Nor through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once, for all, having obtained eternal redemption."

Hebrews 7:23-28, “And indeed, those that became priests were many, because they were prevented by death from continuing, but He, because He remains forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. Therefore He is also able to save completely those who draw near to Yah through Him, ever living to make intercession for them. For it was fitting that we should have such a High Priest – kind, innocent, undefiled, having been separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens, who does not need, as those high priests, to offer up slaughter offerings day by day, first for His own sins and then for those of the people, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. For the Torah appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath which came after the Torah, appoints the Son having been perfected forever.”

Hebrews 10:8, “Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law.”

The true offering "one offering";

Hebrews 10:14, “For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.”

Hebrews 9:15, “And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.”

Out with the Levite priests, in with Yahshua High Priest after the order of the Messenger of Righteousness.

Hence, "
My covenant will stand fast with Him (Psalm 89:26-37)"