Is Trump the mouth in Daniel 7 & 8?

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Nehemiah6

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This guy got elected on a campaign of 'hate' - hate Arabs, hate Hispanics, hate politicians, hate the poor, hate the Clintons, hate the news, hate Obama, hate 'the left' hate the 'socialists' etc etc etc.
That's what the hypocritical Left-Liberals tells us. But it is not really true.

But they don't explain that ever since Trump was legitimately elected as President, why the Left have become haters of all that is good, decent, moral, Christian, and Constitutional?

Indeed haters of America and haters of Trump and his supporters. Do we see the hand of Satan in this rise of Anarchism, Fascism, Marxism, and Communism in the USA? Obama's goal was to "Destroy America" and now his disciples continue to promote his philosophy.
 

louis

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Lol

This guy got elected on a campaign of 'hate' - hate Arabs, hate Hispanics, hate politicians, hate the poor, hate the Clintons, hate the news, hate Obama, hate 'the left' hate the 'socialists' etc etc etc.
And 'pastors' got on the radio and convinced tens of thousands that this is the 'christian' thing to do.

You really weren't paying attention, were you?
And hate the Africans, and hate the Haitians.
 

louis

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What's also interesting is that one third of the nation is totally on board with the hate train Trump is on.
 

tanakh

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Yes, but where is the only ONE superpower in the world with the capability to destroy it all. At the Beginning of the Gog/Magog war, Britian and her young lions only ask if they were invading Israel because of Booty.... Why not help Israel???

Answer: God does all the work in this war........BUT where is the USA here ?????????????

My suspicion is that the Rapture has already Happen. This would almost immediately place the USA back to a third world country.

WHy??? Simple, The USA has a large degree of True Christians. These Christians for the most part hold high places in almost all areas including business, govenment. Think of the Passwords that all of a sudden are lost?

The Military people are also to a very high percentage Christian. They will be gone...Who is going to run the ships, planes, tanks, etc.

This would for all intense and purposes remove the US out of any Bible Prophecy

Now I am not saying, they will be defenseless but it would take time to replace 75 million people and I don't think they could project any type of show of force to any where in the world.



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It appears that you not only have Pre Trib Rapture fantasies you have British Israel fantasies as well. Britain is not mentioned in the Bible. Britain was inhabited by woad daubing hut dwelling savages then as was most of Europe, which Britain was probably still attached to.

Going back to reality what I cant understand is why Trump ended up President when Pence who is purported to be a born again Christian only ended up as Vice President if God is supposed to have been in charge of the election.
 

louis

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Tanakh,
I'm not sure if it was you, but someone mentioned they believed Obama was the raiser of taxes in Daniel 11:20.
I also wondered the same thing due to the ACA (Obamacare), which raised taxes significantly for many.
If correct, it would mean the following leader would represent the vile individual in Daniel 11:21-23 who is also the mouth of the beast in Daniel 7 & 8 & 9:27.

Daniel 11:20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
If correct, it would mean the following leader would represent the vile individual in Daniel 11:21-23 who is also the mouth of the beast in Daniel 7 & 8 & 9:27.

Daniel 11:21
And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.

23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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It appears that you not only have Pre Trib Rapture fantasies you have British Israel fantasies as well. Britain is not mentioned in the Bible. Britain was inhabited by woad daubing hut dwelling savages then as was most of Europe, which Britain was probably still attached to.

Going back to reality what I cant understand is why Trump ended up President when Pence who is purported to be a born again Christian only ended up as Vice President if God is supposed to have been in charge of the election.
Hate The British, Hate European Culture, Hate Israel, Hate The President. Let me guess, you work for The BBC!
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Louis, you really should get it out of your head that Bible prophecy is centred on America.
I'm sure I have pointed it out before that The Bible is a Middle Eastern book and it's focus remains on [what we now call] The Middle East. It's outlook is FROM the Middle East. It's not a prophetic fulfillment every time an American President sneezes.
There are things that happen in that region that don't draw the attention of Western media.
 

louis

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Louis, you really should get it out of your head that Bible prophecy is centred on America.
I'm sure I have pointed it out before that The Bible is a Middle Eastern book and it's focus remains on [what we now call] The Middle East. It's outlook is FROM the Middle East. It's not a prophetic fulfillment every time an American President sneezes.
There are things that happen in that region that don't draw the attention of Western media.
Lucy,
The bible is about the whole world, not just the Middle East.
Any idea why the he-goat in Daniel 8:5-6 has to traverse the entire earth from the West without touching the ground to destroy the ram with two horns Media and Persia (corresponding nations today, Iran and Iraq), if the he-goat is located in the Middle East?

Answer: It is because the he-goats notable horn (air force) is located on the other side of the earth from the Middle East.

Daniel 8:5 [FONT=&quot]And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and touched not the ground[/FONT][FONT=&quot]: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
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6 [FONT=&quot]And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.[/FONT]


Daniel 8:20 [FONT=&quot]The ram which thou sawest having two horns are[/FONT][FONT=&quot] the kings of Media and Persia.[/FONT]
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