Is YOUR church doctrinal statement ONE with SATAN?

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Did God promise to preserve a decent translation? I believe the same God who gave man His holy word is very capable to preserve it perfectly. Do you believe He can do this?
Are you talking about a 'perfect translation' or a 'perfect word'?
You seem to be assuming that God 'tapped' the 1611 to be His perfect translation.
 

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I would think there must be one final complete inerrant Bible. It so happens that we have no complete Bible in Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek Bible. Decency may contain the words of God but not pure words of God. I believe, KJV stands out among others. KJV is the word of God. God bless.
So, all the native Japanese, Spanish, Swahili, Tagalog etc. speakers are at a disadvantage having to go through an extra translation process to read the 1611? Doesn't that strike you as being a bit unfair on God's part to tap only the English 1611 as the 'perfect unadulterated translation'?
 

John146

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Are you talking about a 'perfect translation' or a 'perfect word'?
You seem to be assuming that God 'tapped' the 1611 to be His perfect translation.
Perfect words, plural...

Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
 

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Why am i still seeing this thread, when I’ve chosen to I un-watch it...this site is messed up 🤪
Once you un-watch a thread it becomes watched again if you were to post in it or click on an alert referring to a post of yours.
 

ChosenbyHim

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I would guess the average Joe seated in church has no clue. Whatever their preacher says is the truth. They’ll sit there while the preacher wows them with his knowledge of Greek.🤦‍♂️

Exactly! Sadly that is a reality for many today. Many Christians are not Bereans, because they do not seriously study the Holy Scriptures. They just rather not contend for the truth and if the preacher is wrong in an area, they rather just overlook it. What also is very sad today is the average, modern day Christian's attitude toward the Scriptures. Brother G. Jon Rov made a profound and yet true statement on one of his recent Above God's Name episodes where he stated that:

"Again, the realization of Satan is that everything has to do with the word of God. That's how critical the word of God is. That's all he (Satan) cares about; really, is the word of God. he (Satan) cares about it more than Christians do."

Now that is quite a statement! I am sure what brother G. Jon Rov meant by that more specifically is that Satan cares more about the Scriptures than the average Christian today does. That is, considering the fact that the attitude of today's average Christian is apathetic and lukewarm, toward the Holy Bible. They just do not care. I mean just look at how many Christians in this one thread of mine alone, who have already said that they are not going to bother to "watch the video" or that the video was a "waste of time." And they are saying that about a video dealing with one of the most important subject matters ever. Imagine that! For a Christian to say that reveals a lot about them. One of the things it reveals about them is that they really have lost their love for the truth. This is very tragic.
And this is a sad reality today concerning the average Christian and their absolutely wicked, apathetic, not interested attitude toward the infallible word of the living God. The apostasy in Christendom is really this bad. It is no wonder Jesus Christ said the following concerning His Second Coming and Return to the Earth:

Nevertheless, when the Son of Man cometh, shall He find faith on the Earth? (Luke 18:8b)
 

ChosenbyHim

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Yes, and? It still doesn't make a doctrinal statement "one with satan". My point stands: the title is silly.
The point of the video is to demonstrate how the Doctrinal statements of many churches today are one with Satan's mindset and agenda, that is, when it comes to the subject of the Scriptures.
 

ChosenbyHim

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We believe in the absolute authority of the holy scriptures. We believe the original manuscripts were given by inspiration of God and were without error. We believe the God who gave His word to man has taken upon Himself the responsibility for its preservation. We believe the incorruptible word of God which cannot pass away is available to the English-speaking world in the Authorized (King James) Version. This Bible is our final authority in all matters.

Amen brother. And I would like to just add to it the following:

We also believe that the King James Holy Bible is without error and absolutely pure. For indeed, the King James Holy Bible is the perfect, inerrant and infallible word of God for us today.
 

ChosenbyHim

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How is that so since all we have is early fragments from around 100 AD and later copies of early manuscripts (200-600 AD). Only comparing these manuscripts can we come up with an accurate representation of the originals. This is all all due to the fact that the ORIGINAL AUTOGRAPHS DO NOT EXIST.
The Original Autographs indeed no longer exist. Yet though, concerning your question, Crossnote, where you asked How is that so. This is how. By simply putting faith in God to keep His promise to preserve His word.
If God began His work of inspiration through penning down the Original Autographs through holy men of His, don't you think that God would continue to have His hand upon the entire process of the preservation, and translation of His holy word?

Think about it, Crossnote. At what point did God take His hand off of His word? At what point did God remove His hand from the process of inspiring, preserving, purifying, and translating His holy word, the Scriptures?

If God started the process, why do so many Christians today think that He would not finish it? Why do many Christians today think that God would somehow show indifference toward finishing His Bible?
 

Dino246

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The inability of God to preserve his words perfectly is not according to his attributes. God is perfect and so his words. God bless
Make your argument on the actual words of Scripture, not the speculative assertions about Scripture.
 

Dino246

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What did I say that would cause you think that I was being self righteous?
"Of course, you could not. Since you could not be bothered by being corrected and reproved by the truth in it. You are a like a lot of modern Christians today, who answer a matter before they actually hear it. "

Were you unable to read your own words in the post of yours that I quoted?
 

Dino246

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Perfect words, plural...

Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
That verse is not talking about the KJV.
 

Dino246

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God started the process, why do so many Christians today think that He would not finish it? Why do many Christians today think that God would somehow show indifference toward finishing His Bible?
God didn't "show indifference toward finishing His Bible". He finished it through the pen of John, who wrote down the Revelation.
 

John146

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That verse is not talking about the KJV.
Did God give us His pure words, command that we should live by ever word and not provide them for us today? Are we held accountable for obeying an imperfect Bible? Or is God going to give us a pass?
 

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Perfect words, plural...

Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Funny, the ESV says the same thing.
 

Dino246

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Did God give us His pure words, command that we should live by ever word and not provide them for us today? Are we held accountable for obeying an imperfect Bible? Or is God going to give us a pass?
Are you going to keep asking the same baited questions, or are you going to step up with Scripture?
 

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The Original Autographs indeed no longer exist. Yet though, concerning your question, Crossnote, where you asked How is that so. This is how. By simply putting faith in God to keep His promise to preserve His word.
If God began His work of inspiration through penning down the Original Autographs through holy men of His, don't you think that God would continue to have His hand upon the entire process of the preservation, and translation of His holy word?


Think about it, Crossnote. At what point did God take His hand off of His word? At what point did God remove His hand from the process of inspiring, preserving, purifying, and translating His holy word, the Scriptures?

If God started the process, why do so many Christians today think that He would not finish it? Why do many Christians today think that God would somehow show indifference toward finishing His Bible?
God speaks more than one language, I hope you know. He also has more than one way of doing things such as "preservation, and translation of His holy word".
 

John146

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Are you going to keep asking the same baited questions, or are you going to step up with Scripture?
Do we have access to every word of God? If not, how can we properly live for God?

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.