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Yes, Hell is just the grave, No one is burning in hell and no one will burn for eternity. That would mean that sinners would become immortal no they will not. Forever means when it is done. as in burning a log you will burn the log forever which means until it goes out. We know we can't burn a log forever but we can burn it until its no more just black ashe. This is the punishment the second death. You ( unsaved, unrepented) will burn until you die according to your deeds you did little you burn quickly, you did a lot you burn longer but you will not burn forever, you will burn until your ashe and thats all. God is a loving and merciful God who wishes for no one to suffer this fate but many will choose this and heaven will not be a pleasant place for them. They love sin and all that comes with it--- there will be no more sin. No sin in heaven or on the New Earth. the purpose of the firey lake is to end Sin forever.
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Lets reason do you honestly think people are in hell suffering all these years and then we go through the tribulation, and Jesus coming for his saints and then judgement ( judgement does not come until after the 1,000.00 years have passed. and then what happens God will pull all those out of hell and judge them and throw them back in. That does not make sense nor is it orderly and God is a God of order. no offense to anyone but as Christians we all must be willing to learn and study the word of God not take one scripture and run with it or take a parable and say this is how hell is when it is not what it means.
We need to study out the different meanings of hell and what does eternity mean and forever also immortal. When Jesus comes we will all be changed put in immotality but not the sinners they wiill all be DEAD they will lie on the ground for 1,000.00 years with no one to bury them. Why no one will be here to bury them. All the saints are in heaven and the sinner are still in their graves those that have died all ready and those that are alive and remaining will die at the coming of the Lord. NO secret Rapture that is not scriptural - neither is hell with people in it---
We need to study out the different meanings of hell and what does eternity mean and forever also immortal. When Jesus comes we will all be changed put in immotality but not the sinners they wiill all be DEAD they will lie on the ground for 1,000.00 years with no one to bury them. Why no one will be here to bury them. All the saints are in heaven and the sinner are still in their graves those that have died all ready and those that are alive and remaining will die at the coming of the Lord. NO secret Rapture that is not scriptural - neither is hell with people in it---
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Hell in the Bible The word “hell” is used 54 times in the Bible. It is translated from several different words with various meanings, as indicated below:
In the Old Testament:
In the Old Testament:
- 31 times from the Hebrew “Sheol,” which means
“the grave”
- 10 times from the Greek “Hades,” which means
“the grave” - 12 times from the Greek “Gehenna,” which means
“a place of burning” - 1 time from the Greek “Tartarus,” which means
“a place of darkness”
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Everlasting Fire
Matthew 25:41 speaks of "everlasting fire" for the wicked. Does it go out?
Yes, according to the Bible, it does. We must let the Bible explain itself. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with everlasting, or eternal, fire (Jude 7), and that fire turned them "into ashes" as a warning to "those that after should live ungodly," 2 Peter 2:6. These cities are not burning today. The fire went out after everything was burned out. Likewise, everlasting fire will go out after it has turned the wicked to ashes (Malachi 4:3). The effects of the fire are everlasting, but not the burning itself.
Doesn't Matthew 25:46 say the wicked will receive "everlasting punishment"?
Notice the word is punishment, not punishing. Punishing would be continuous, while punishment is one act. The punishment of the wicked is death, and this death is everlasting.
Matthew 25:41 speaks of "everlasting fire" for the wicked. Does it go out?
Yes, according to the Bible, it does. We must let the Bible explain itself. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with everlasting, or eternal, fire (Jude 7), and that fire turned them "into ashes" as a warning to "those that after should live ungodly," 2 Peter 2:6. These cities are not burning today. The fire went out after everything was burned out. Likewise, everlasting fire will go out after it has turned the wicked to ashes (Malachi 4:3). The effects of the fire are everlasting, but not the burning itself.
Doesn't Matthew 25:46 say the wicked will receive "everlasting punishment"?
Notice the word is punishment, not punishing. Punishing would be continuous, while punishment is one act. The punishment of the wicked is death, and this death is everlasting.
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Trudy,
You are obviously using the KJV. Try using a newer version. Most distinguish pretty well between the different Greek terms you listed.
The strict definition is not always sufficient. Context also must be examined to determined how a word is being used.
When referring to physical things an unquenchable fire may be one that cannot be put out but must be allowed to burn itself out by consuming all that is flammable.
However if something is by design unable to be consumed, the fire will continue perpetually.
You are obviously using the KJV. Try using a newer version. Most distinguish pretty well between the different Greek terms you listed.
The strict definition is not always sufficient. Context also must be examined to determined how a word is being used.
When referring to physical things an unquenchable fire may be one that cannot be put out but must be allowed to burn itself out by consuming all that is flammable.
However if something is by design unable to be consumed, the fire will continue perpetually.
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no hell isnt a little harsh. God gave his only son to die on a cross for our sins. If we choose to live in them til our death(already knowing the end result) then thats what we deserve. Thats what we deserve regaurdless but god gives us a chioce. It's now left up to us to figure out with path to take.
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Unquenchable fire is fire that cannot be put out, but which goes out when it has turned everything to ashes. Jeremiah 17:27 says Jerusalem was to be destroyed with unquenchable fire, and in 2 Chronicles 36:19-21 the Bible says this fire burned the city "to fulfill the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah" and left it desolate. Yet we know this fire went out, because Jerusalem is not burning today.
To quench means to extinguish or put out. No one will be able to put out the fire of hell. That is the strange fire of God. No one will be able to escape from it by extinguishing it. Isaiah says of that fire, "Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor a fire to sit before it" (Isaiah 47:14). After it has accomplished its work of destruction, that fire will go out. No one can deliver themselves from its flame by putting it out, but finally not a coal will be left. So say the Scriptures.
To quench means to extinguish or put out. No one will be able to put out the fire of hell. That is the strange fire of God. No one will be able to escape from it by extinguishing it. Isaiah says of that fire, "Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor a fire to sit before it" (Isaiah 47:14). After it has accomplished its work of destruction, that fire will go out. No one can deliver themselves from its flame by putting it out, but finally not a coal will be left. So say the Scriptures.
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This earth will become a large grave and fire will come down from heaven after judgement and destroys it. It will be the pit, the lake of fire. the entire earth will be the grave on fire. Hell. I just about 30 bibles and they all say the same except for the New International Version I would not buy that version to many things missing from it. I have the parallel bible several of them and it really doesn't matter but you must have a king James version for comparission. It is most accurate then newer translation. I prefer the New Living transalation but I use my New King and My James to make sure the infor is understandable and I get what God is telling me.
LeeLee25 thats fine you do not agree but what is it you don't agree you say everything, even the scriptures?
LeeLee25 thats fine you do not agree but what is it you don't agree you say everything, even the scriptures?
Trudy you can't compare the fires of Jerusalem with the fires of hell. One is to destroy mortal flesh , the fires of hell are to destroy the immortal souls of men... if it ever good. Rather, the fires which burn in hell burn forever, as do the immortal souls that are thrown in them, including the devils and his angles.
sinners dont become immortal. The soul is the immortal part of the persons, this does not cease to exist, it goes somewhere, where ever God intends it.
Scripture says that Christ's soul was not left in hell (hades), which shows that the soul continues on after death and his soul spent a little time there, not in torment, but in paradise. (Luke 23:43)
Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Scripture says that Christ's soul was not left in hell (hades), which shows that the soul continues on after death and his soul spent a little time there, not in torment, but in paradise. (Luke 23:43)
Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
In a nutshell this is what the bible teaches about hell and death:
First death - body dies, and the soul/spirit/breath, whatever you want to call it, goes somewhere.
Ecc 12:7 says it returns to God:
Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
James also says the spirit has gone somewhere, it is not in the body any longer, the spirit is absent:
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
So death is really a separation of the body from the soul. The body dies as it cannot live without the soul.
Jesus taught that human beings, cannot destroy the soul.
Mat 10:28Andfearnotthem which killthebody,butarenotabletokillthesoul:butratherfearhim which is abletodestroybothsoulandbodyinhell.
This is because the soul continues on after death.
Jesus told us where the soul goes after death: To hades, paradise for the good person, torment for the bad person. (Luke 16). Or, as Paul said, to be present with the Lord, either in heaven, or in Hades.
These souls reside either in torment or in paradise until the resurrection of both the just and unjust. This is a resurrection of the body at the same time the soul/breath returns from wherever it was (paradise or torment), and re-enters the body to make the body come alive.
This resurrection of both the just and unjust (Acts 24:15, Mark 12:23) is for judgement. The sea, the earth, hell, hades, everywhere, deliver up the dead for judgement (Rev 20:13).
Then everyone is judged according to their works:
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
The wicked are thrown into hell. This is rightly called the second death, because it's the second time they experience dying. But even more, the pain and loss of separation from God for eternity.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
There shall be no more death after this, when death itself is cast into the lake of fire.
While some may believe that being cast in the lake of fire is the way God is able to destroy both body and soul,
various scriptures affirm a continuing eternal torment for the wicked which is in the sense of their soul, and like Lazarus who was in torment in Jesus's parable, these also are in continual torment never having any rest:
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
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First death - body dies, and the soul/spirit/breath, whatever you want to call it, goes somewhere.
Ecc 12:7 says it returns to God:
Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
James also says the spirit has gone somewhere, it is not in the body any longer, the spirit is absent:
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
So death is really a separation of the body from the soul. The body dies as it cannot live without the soul.
Jesus taught that human beings, cannot destroy the soul.
Mat 10:28Andfearnotthem which killthebody,butarenotabletokillthesoul:butratherfearhim which is abletodestroybothsoulandbodyinhell.
This is because the soul continues on after death.
Jesus told us where the soul goes after death: To hades, paradise for the good person, torment for the bad person. (Luke 16). Or, as Paul said, to be present with the Lord, either in heaven, or in Hades.
These souls reside either in torment or in paradise until the resurrection of both the just and unjust. This is a resurrection of the body at the same time the soul/breath returns from wherever it was (paradise or torment), and re-enters the body to make the body come alive.
This resurrection of both the just and unjust (Acts 24:15, Mark 12:23) is for judgement. The sea, the earth, hell, hades, everywhere, deliver up the dead for judgement (Rev 20:13).
Then everyone is judged according to their works:
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
The wicked are thrown into hell. This is rightly called the second death, because it's the second time they experience dying. But even more, the pain and loss of separation from God for eternity.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
There shall be no more death after this, when death itself is cast into the lake of fire.
While some may believe that being cast in the lake of fire is the way God is able to destroy both body and soul,
various scriptures affirm a continuing eternal torment for the wicked which is in the sense of their soul, and like Lazarus who was in torment in Jesus's parable, these also are in continual torment never having any rest:
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
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Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever
Seventh day adventists and Jehovahs witnesses and other fringe groups (not in line with mainstream christianity) do not hold to these teachings (or their similar variants), but teach heresy. Such as, that the soul sleeps, or that the soul does not continue on after death or is not immortal.
We have to be careful because if we start compromising on these views, by thinking hell isn't as bad or eternal as the bible says it is, we may start to even deny the existance of satan, and that satan isn't really as bad as he is.
Seventh day adventists and Jehovahs witnesses and other fringe groups (not in line with mainstream christianity) do not hold to these teachings (or their similar variants), but teach heresy. Such as, that the soul sleeps, or that the soul does not continue on after death or is not immortal.
We have to be careful because if we start compromising on these views, by thinking hell isn't as bad or eternal as the bible says it is, we may start to even deny the existance of satan, and that satan isn't really as bad as he is.
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And I should add that the terror of hell-fire is not diminished by the various reports of people who experience near death or have died and come back to life thanks to God's mercy. Some who have witnessed hell or been thrown in there themselves in their own experiences and come back to tell the tales for the benefit of the living.
No one story I have read, of someone who has come back from such experiences says "hell isn't as bad afterall", or is somehow not as terrifying as traditional christianity has always believed and preached it to be. I think a proper and right opposite to an eternity in heaven, is an eternity in hell and vice versa. Jesus did not die so that we don't have to experience only 100 years of hell, that sort of thinking about non-eternal hellfire really cheapens what Christ accomplished.
No one story I have read, of someone who has come back from such experiences says "hell isn't as bad afterall", or is somehow not as terrifying as traditional christianity has always believed and preached it to be. I think a proper and right opposite to an eternity in heaven, is an eternity in hell and vice versa. Jesus did not die so that we don't have to experience only 100 years of hell, that sort of thinking about non-eternal hellfire really cheapens what Christ accomplished.
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