Where in the bible can I find God the son, God the holy spirit, God the Father written in scripture?
I just say there is God, God's Word, God's Spirit.
God's Word was manifested in flesh, named Jesus Christ.
God was with us by His Spirit, in and through His Son Jesus Christ, who is our Lord and Saviour, and is the Son of God.
The Father, and the Word (Son) are both one in, Purpose/ Reason/ Unity.
The Father, the Word, The Holy spirit are all in One, Purpose/ Reason/ Unity.[HR][/HR]
1 John 5:7 reads: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Anyway. Was just curios if I could also find, where it says God is a person, and the Holy spirit a person too because God is a spirit, and the holy spirit is a spirit even if the bible does omit 'he' for the context of the spirit.
It's funny how we will talk about these topics, yet we are believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and are all saved no matter how you believe in this concept...
Lol.
God bless, in Jesus Christ name, amen.
Hi matt! How did you arrive at your statement here? "I just say there is God, God's Word, God's Spirit. God's Word was manifested in flesh named Jesus Christ." You arrived at it by reading the Bible and employing deductive reasoning. You will not find the exact phrase "God the Son." It is "deduced" from reading the Bible. You will not also find anywhere in the Bible where Jesus says the exact words, "I am God."
Now I've debated people who ask the question of why did not Jesus just come out and say, "I am God?" First of all if He had they still would not believe Him. Secondily, if He had the Jews (and rightly so) would have jumped all over Him because it would mean that there is more than one God.
So what did Jesus do? He left it up to us to come to the right conclusion as to His identity with the help of His Father and the Holy Spirit. The most important question to ask is what Jesus said to His disciples at Matthew 16:13-17. Vs13 Jesus ask them, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" They gave Him answers at vs14 but Jesus said, "But who do you say that I am?" Peter said at vs16, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." I want you to notice something about Peter's statement. Peter is saying two things, (1) You are the Christ/Messiah and (2) the Son of God." These two things will come into play later on in the gospel John.
Now, the following is what I wrote the other day to a poster here named carl who believes that Jesus is really God the Father. In other words to him the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not distinct persons. Here goes, and if you have any questions please ask.
Come on carl, why would you depend on diagrams? The truth be known no diagram or explanation can replace studying your Bible. The purpose of the diagrams and explanations is to explain the Trinty. I'll give you an example. The Trinity is like water. Water can be in the form of ice, and it can be in the form of steam. Or the Trinity is like a three leaf clover. Three leaves represent the Father, Son and Holy Spirit yet the clover itself is one clover.
I'm going to post what I said to apostolic yesterday who is a oneness pentecostal who believes (like you) that Jesus is God the Father, He is NOT God the Father but God the Son. Please read my explnation which is from the Bible. If you have any questions I will be happy to answer them.
You know apostolic you have said on a couple occasions that you are not a Modalist. Yet you just said above, "I do however believe that the titles, Father, Son and Holy Ghost Or (Holy Spirit) however you prefer it refer to three different "ASPECTS" of God's relationship to humanity." The following is the definition of "Modalism."
mod·al·ism
ˈmodlˌizəm/
noun
noun:
modalism
- 1.
Theology
the doctrine that the persons of the Trinity represent only three modes or aspects of the divine revelation, not distinct and coexisting persons in the divine nature.
Now pay attention because this is important. The Bible "DOES NOT" identify God by "modes, roles, or aspects. The Bible does identify God by (1) His names, (2) His titles, (3) His unique attributes, (4) His unique actions, (5) His worship. I am not aware of any other literary, contextual means by which the Bible clearly identifies God. I could be wrong, but I am confident this list is comprehensive and your more than welcome to add to the list, this goes for anybody else.
The doctrine of the trinity cannot be understood, argued or refuted by appealing to any single passage in the Bible. That is because it is a systematic theology in the proper sense of the term "theology" the "study" or knowledge" of God, and is drawn from the whole Bible, as any valid systematic theology should be. It is the doctrin that explains the nature of the one and only true God described in the Bible, and is necessarily drawn from a harmonization of ALL of scripture and therefore can only be undetstood from a view that accounts for ALL of the Bible.
If you will examine the Bible thoroughly you should be able to quickly discover that there are three and ONLY three "persons" who are identified as God by the COMBINATION of the literary means I listed above. These persons are variously ...
1) CALLED by the NAMES of God (YHWH and its variants) either directly of indirectly....usually both. We already know God the Father is called God, YHWH, and Lord. Jesus is called God and Lord. The Holy Spirit is identified or called God at Acts 5:3,4.
2) RECOGNIZED with the TITLES of God, (Lord, King, Savior, Redeemer, etc.)
3) ATTRIBUTED with UNIQUE characteristics of God, (creation, orgin of God's word, salvation of men and/or creation. The Holy Spirit is identified at Genesis 1:2 as "moving over the waters."
4) CREDITED with the UNIQUE characteristics of God (omnipresence, omnipotence, omniscient, eternality, etc.)
5) WORSHIPED and/or given the honor, reverence and position due to GOD ALONE.
Keep in mind I am not saying that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all consistently, equally and in every mention identified as God in every place they are represented in the Bible by any combination of thes 5. Nor am I saying that each person of the tirntiy is represented equally by ALL FIVE of these means of identifying God.
I am saying that:
1) that each person of the trinity receives some COMBINATION of the 5 means of identifying and distinguishing God listed above and
2) ONLY the three persons of the trinity receive some COMBINATION of these 5 literaly means.
For example, the Bible does not call anyone "God" (in the proper sense--meaning THE one and only God to whom it does not attribute the UNIQUE actions and UNIQUE attributes of God. I think you get my point and remember, theology is not salvation. It is in Christ that we find God fully and sufficiently manifested to us human beings, AS a human being and for His own glory. And it is only through His Holy Spirit that we can know Him and be saved by His grace. Any questions?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto