Jesus was born on July 27, 7 BCE

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vk_61

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If you want to know REAL date of Christmas, what Star of Bethlehem and the Holly Grail REALLY were, read the essay
"GRADALIS, or The Full Cup on the Empty Commode".
In search of Jesus of Nazareth’s birth date and time.
An historical investigation with astrology and three Magi.
Exercitia astrologica discipuli.

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blue_ladybug

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Astrology is new age stuff, and the bible mentions nothing about the number of wise men..
 

posthuman

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If you want to know REAL date of Christmas, what Star of Bethlehem and the Holly Grail REALLY were, read the essay
"GRADALIS, or The Full Cup on the Empty Commode".
In search of Jesus of Nazareth’s birth date and time.
An historical investigation with astrology and three Magi.
Exercitia astrologica discipuli.

https://vk-61.livejournal.com/
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age,
being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli . . .
(Luke 3:23)
the Bible itself isn't even specific about His age

why?

why "
about thirty" ???
God can certainly be extraordinarily specific when He means to be!
 
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LPT

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If you want to know REAL date of Christmas, what Star of Bethlehem and the Holly Grail REALLY were, read the essay
"GRADALIS, or The Full Cup on the Empty Commode".
In search of Jesus of Nazareth’s birth date and time.
An historical investigation with astrology and three Magi.
Exercitia astrologica discipuli.

https://vk-61.livejournal.com/
I suppose these geniuses subtracted all the leap yrs days added, all the months added to the Hebrew calander etc. and for that matter the bits of time that the planet earth fluxiates from year to year because the days are not exactly 365 days each year, sometimes it's longer sometimes it's shorter. the gravitonal anomaly in our solar system and beyond does effect the planet.
 
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pottersclay

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Jesus held Israel accountable for not knowing the time of their visitation.
It was given in prophecy when the decree was given to rebuild the walls in neimaiah time.

Now I have a brain freeze here to tell the rest of the story.........Paul Harvey forgive me 😂😂😂😂.....sorry...😣
 
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Daniel
25‘He will will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.
 

BaptistBibleBeliever

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We can be sure that it wasn't in December. It happened during the period, it is suggested, when the Temple sheep were being protected for the upcoming Passover feast. At any rate, the shepherds were in the fields grazing the sheep which they would not be doing in the colder months.

Then there was the census. Can any of us imagine caravans traveling in the winter months?
 

Dino246

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If you want to know REAL date of Christmas, what Star of Bethlehem and the Holly Grail REALLY were, read the essay
"GRADALIS, or The Full Cup on the Empty Commode".
In search of Jesus of Nazareth’s birth date and time.
An historical investigation with astrology and three Magi.
Exercitia astrologica discipuli.

https://vk-61.livejournal.com/
Hello, vk_61...
Who is Jesus to you?
 

tourist

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Astrology is new age stuff, and the bible mentions nothing about the number of wise men..
You are absolutely correct as a specific number of wise men was not mentioned in the bible, only that 3 gifts were brought to give to baby Jesus.
 

tourist

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If you want to know REAL date of Christmas, what Star of Bethlehem and the Holly Grail REALLY were, read the essay
"GRADALIS, or The Full Cup on the Empty Commode".
In search of Jesus of Nazareth’s birth date and time.
An historical investigation with astrology and three Magi.
Exercitia astrologica discipuli.

https://vk-61.livejournal.com/
This was not a typical introduction post. I really don't think any member is going to research an empty commode. Most members realize that it was unlikely that Jesus was born December 25. The exact date of the year of His birth is unknown as well as the year of His birth.
 

vk_61

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This was not a typical introduction post. I really don't think any member is going to research an empty commode. Most members realize that it was unlikely that Jesus was born December 25. The exact date of the year of His birth is unknown as well as the year of His birth.
"Empty commode" is simply the reference to the emperor Commodus, which date of death was a starting point of calculation for Clement of Alexandria. It just point to the errors and difficulties for theologian and historians on the way of their attempt to find real date of the Nativity.
 

Lillywolf

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If you want to know REAL date of Christmas, what Star of Bethlehem and the Holly Grail REALLY were, read the essay
"GRADALIS, or The Full Cup on the Empty Commode".
In search of Jesus of Nazareth’s birth date and time.
An historical investigation with astrology and three Magi.
Exercitia astrologica discipuli.

https://vk-61.livejournal.com/
Exercitia astrologica discipuli, those students that practice astrology and write live journal entries concerning the birth of our Christ should have at least a basic knowledge of his birth. Failing that, any premise by which one wishes to expound on the story using extra-Biblical means has failed from the gate.
There can be no historical investigation when there is no historical proof there were three Magi arrived after the Christ's birth.

I wouldn't agree Astrology is new age. It has been used by those in the new age of this world to prophecy and foretell peoples lives and futures. That's fortune telling or divination and condemned in scripture.

The practice of Astrology in Biblical times was interlinked with Astronomy. The Bible speaks of Astrology. The Greek word, Astrologia, Astro=stars. Logia=treating of, meaning, a telling of the stars. Astronomy. (For study: Etymology Source)

The Book of Job refers to the Mazzaroth. The Zodiac of constellations.
Job 38:31
“Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades or loose the cords of Orion?32 can you lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season, or can you guide the Bear with its children?



Genesis 1:14
And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,
 

p_rehbein

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Ahh, and once again, we are visited by extra terrestrials...........

At least the "commode" thingy will be useful. It provides a flushing way to get rid of this thread does it not?

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Lillywolf

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Years ago the IRS investigated the church finances of numerous TV pastors. Among those Joyce Meyer. Among many things purchased for the church and her office was a $23,000 commode. Part of a 68 piece set of large items totaling in all over $260,000.

When I first heard of this particular feature in her office I thought to myself, that's a woman that likes to show her wealth even when she pees. :giggle:


The History of the Term “Commode”



 

Noose

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This is nothing more than a meme. Winter and rain can not prevent anyone from getting born and sheeps must be somewhere even during the cold. Census can be done anytime. If the Governor can order children to be butchered in winter then counting people is nothing. Do not use your Canadian winter Olympics experience to explain the bible, use scripture to explain scripture.