Jeus second Coming

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Finsu

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Nowdays in youtube,facebook everywhere people are discussing about Jesus second coming.Recently I saw in youtube Jesus is coming on May 21,2011.some people saying Jesus will come to 2012.Bible says no one knows his time.What you think about this.Are you agree with me?Jesus will come soon but not in may 21 or 2012.only heavenly father knows.whatever the bible said about last days it is happening.lets get ready coz we don't know when is the time.each day we have to prepare our life to meet Jesus......Thanks for reading.God bless you
 
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That is true no man knows the day Jesus will come back,not even the angels.

1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober(1 Thessalonians 5:1-6).

These are the scriptures that they use to say that the children of the light will be ready and the day of the Lord will not overtake them as a thief in the night,but we have to see what this really means,and to rightly divide the word of truth.

1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

These 2 scriptures prove that the saints do not know the day of the Lord,for Paul said that he did not need to write unto the saints concerning the times and the seasons concerning Jesus' return,because that day comes as a thief in the night,and Paul does not know himself.Paul said there is no need for us to know the times and seasons concerning Jesus' return,for Jesus said that no man can know,and that He will come as a thief in the night,so there is no need for Paul to write concerning that.

3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

They believe that since it says that the saints are not in darkness,that that day should overtake them like a thief,that it is talking about the day of the Lord,but this is not talking of the day of the Lord,but of the time when they say peace and safety,that will fool the world into believing that the world coming together is the solution to solve the world's problems,but the saints will not be fooled by it,and know that only by Jesus can man prosper.

10Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown(Revelation 3:10-11).

I believe that the letters to the 7 Churches is symbolic of how the Church age will go up until Jesus returns,for there is only one temptation that can tempt all the people of the world,and that is when they say peace and safety,for it is follow the one world government and religious system,which the beast system has power over all the world,and Jesus said He will not even allow the saints to be tempted with the idea that the one world government and religious system is of God.

Paul is saying that the saints will not be caught as a thief when they shall say peace and safety to think that it is the best for the world and of God,and Jesus will not even let them be tempted to believe it is of God,for it will lead to the beast system,which the saints know is not of God,where the world will think it is of God.

Like the false prophet will do lying wonders that will appear to be so real,that it would deceive the very elect,if it were possible,but it is not possible to deceive the elect for they are the elect.

Since Paul said that he has no need to write unto us about the time of Jesus' return,for we cannot know for it comes as a thief in the night,then Paul would not write that when they say peace and safety that that day shall not overcome them like a thief,as having any reference to the day of the Lord,but meaning they will not fall victim to the beginning of the one world government and religious system that will lead to the beast system.

Paul is giving us a little hint to let us know that the day of the Lord is near,when they say peace and safety for the world,but has no need to tell of the times and seasons of Jesus' return,which means the plan of God concerning that day,for it comes as a thief in the night,which Paul does not know,the angels do not know,and Jesus said no man knows,and only the Father knows.

When Paul says that he has no need to write to us about the times and seasons concerning Jesus' return,it means the plan of God concerning a certain time frame,but the events happen on one day,like when the Jews asked Jesus if He was going to restore the kingdom on earth back to the Jews at that time,and He said it is not for them to know the times and seasons,but only the Father,and God will restore the kingdom to them on one certain day,in the millennial reign of Christ,and it is the day of the Lord,not the days of the Lord.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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wow what they do just like picked a day or something.......doesn't people know God does not think like men He does the opposite. like Jesus the pharasees thought He would be born in a good family rich and all but He was born in a manger and came weak. they thought so many things of Him and how He should come as if God would obey them......well we can just sit back and see because didn't they thought that 2000 would be the end or something hahaha wow did not work!!!
 
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they pick dates most times to make money by selling a book or something.
 
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Nowdays in youtube,facebook everywhere people are discussing about Jesus second coming.Recently I saw in youtube Jesus is coming on May 21,2011.some people saying Jesus will come to 2012.Bible says no one knows his time.What you think about this.Are you agree with me?Jesus will come soon but not in may 21 or 2012.only heavenly father knows.whatever the bible said about last days it is happening.lets get ready coz we don't know when is the time.each day we have to prepare our life to meet Jesus......Thanks for reading.God bless you

The signs are in Matthew 24 of his coming and Revelations was given to us for a reason. Revelations reveals what the signs are in more detail than Matthew, therefore we can get a good feel for when to expect his return. We do not know the day or the hour, but we know the season.
 
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Revelations 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away,and there was no more sea.

The reference to there being no more sea, got me thinking. We all know there is power in H20 it can be used as a fuel it is needed to grow food. In the future once mankind has depleted all the resources including water, does he move to a new planet refered to as the new heaven and the new earth. We are actively searching for candidates right now. With the earths population growing rapidly we could end up using all our resources sooner than we think.

Don't get mad it is only a theroy. No one knows the truth.
 
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Revelations 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away,and there was no more sea.

The reference to there being no more sea, got me thinking. We all know there is power in H20 it can be used as a fuel it is needed to grow food. In the future once mankind has depleted all the resources including water, does he move to a new planet refered to as the new heaven and the new earth. We are actively searching for candidates right now. With the earths population growing rapidly we could end up using all our resources sooner than we think.

Don't get mad it is only a theroy. No one knows the truth.

I promise I wont get mad! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Yes, it does look like we will use up all our recources or get very close to it, but the truth is in the bible and God has shared it with those who are seeking.

Most christians do not know, or have not yet discovered information regarding the millenium. It starts after Satan gets locked up (rev 20:2). Satan is bound for a purpose, because at the end of the 1000 years he is going to be let loose.

I have oodles of scripture from the old testament proving this period is yet to come. I will soon post this as I have been working on it and have laid it out easy for anyone to understand. There is only one problem. I have too much scripture and I think its going to be about 24 pages long, so I have to cut it back! (ouch, all that hard work!)

This may sound foreign to some as many are taught that we go straight to heaven or hell when we die and that all the unbelievers will be destroyed at the 2nd coming of Christ. The scriptures say otherwise...

In short....
At Jesus second coming, he will set his kingdom up in Israel for 1000 years. (this area is known as the holy camp, or Mt Zion) He will be ruling the Israelites with his saints and reign over the entire earth. The Israelites will learn the truth & teach the nations during this period. They will still be flesh and blood & God will restore them (the remnant)

When the 1000 years is expired, certain events take place and then the end will come. Then the second judgment occurs and the earth will be melted and re-made along with the heavens. So we need not go anywhere else...it is here we stay. This is when there will be no more sea.
 
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the Bible says Jesus returns after the tribulation... when the start of that tribulation happens... i have absolutely no idea
 
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I promise I wont get mad! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Yes, it does look like we will use up all our recources or get very close to it, but the truth is in the bible and God has shared it with those who are seeking.

Most christians do not know, or have not yet discovered information regarding the millenium. It starts after Satan gets locked up (rev 20:2). Satan is bound for a purpose, because at the end of the 1000 years he is going to be let loose.

I have oodles of scripture from the old testament proving this period is yet to come. I will soon post this as I have been working on it and have laid it out easy for anyone to understand. There is only one problem. I have too much scripture and I think its going to be about 24 pages long, so I have to cut it back! (ouch, all that hard work!)

This may sound foreign to some as many are taught that we go straight to heaven or hell when we die and that all the unbelievers will be destroyed at the 2nd coming of Christ. The scriptures say otherwise...

In short....
At Jesus second coming, he will set his kingdom up in Israel for 1000 years. (this area is known as the holy camp, or Mt Zion) He will be ruling the Israelites with his saints and reign over the entire earth. The Israelites will learn the truth & teach the nations during this period. They will still be flesh and blood & God will restore them (the remnant)

When the 1000 years is expired, certain events take place and then the end will come. Then the second judgment occurs and the earth will be melted and re-made along with the heavens. So we need not go anywhere else...it is here we stay. This is when there will be no more sea.
Hi Journey; I agree with most of what you described, but t don't beleive that there will be flesh and blood in exsistance, once the Lords Day begins.

I get this from understanding the difference between mortal and immortal time; 1000 Mortal (liable to die) years; verses 1 Day of Immortal (Eternel) time.

When you think about it, it would be rather gross if when we all die, end of all flesh, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, that we were all changed into our Immortal bodies, that Our Father would leave anybody, standing very long, it what would be a gross pile of human carcasses.

Thats why this event takes place, After the tribulation of instead of christ. When Our Father takes action, in MoreNatural time, it doesn't take him long. Remember that old song, about switching to glide and something about the useless speed of sound. (just my attempt at humour)

On that Great and Terrible (awesome) Day of The Lord, when ALL the stars of Heaven shall be darkened, and the Moon (where do you think satans going for 1000 years?) shall be as bright as the sun; and the Sun 7 times Brighter. Flesh and Blood cannot withstand this presence of The Lord.

Those stars being darkened, are OUR spiritual bodys, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, transfiguring back to us, Just before those 110-180 lbs hailstones preceding Christ, land preciouley on Mt Zion. to eliminate the false Godhead, saving satan, for the tribulation at the end of the Lords Day.

Those are quite the multitasking stones; To Cleanse Mt Zion, to begin the Day (or 1000 years) of restoration, to prepare for the return of YAHAVAH.

When Christ says JUMP! you better pray you can, before those hailstones land, and knock this earth, that Our Father said He created to be inhabited FOREVER (Daddy doesn't Lie) back on its True North Axis, as the inner lava core of this earth implodes over it, to burn up ALL the impurities and to place a fresh coating of Pure Soil over His Home, around the Entire Globe, with ALL water being sub-terranial as it was once before.(all the seas dried up)

Those who cannot Jump; Well though you cannot be Physically Hurt in a spiritual body,(remember the fiery furnace) I beleive you could be Terribly shaken. Oh, and Really Spiritually embarrased.:eek:

Anyway hopefully something for you to chew on.

Love and Peace Forever in CHRIST!!!:)
 
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Crazy4GODword

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I like when Job describes us resurrected in our new bodies and seeing Jesus in Job 19:25-27 and other details.

Can you believe that we will still have bodies that is cool!!!
 
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I like when Job describes us resurrected in our new bodies and seeing Jesus in Job 19:25-27 and other details.

Can you believe that we will still have bodies that is cool!!!
Yes thats a really good scripture. Notice that Job is only resurrected in the flesh and not spirit?

Job 19: 26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God.

The saints will be resurrected in the spirit. The israelites in the flesh (the remnant)

Isaiah 10:21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.

You can read also the whole chapter of Ezekiel 37.
 
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kujo313

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Everybody who's mentioned by name in the Bible died while waiting for Jesus to return. Also, my friend from work died early this month. She, too, was waiting for Jesus to return.
People who wait until the "11th hour" to accept Jesus usually die at 10:30.
 
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perfectperfection

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yea like the christians joining with paganism and now everyone is a part of the way of the heathen!!!
 

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Jesus pbuh will return God willing but there will be a famine for three years before that. In the last year there will be no rain and nothing will grow then the anti christ will come.So look out for a one eyed guy with thick hair. Blind in his left eye and his right eye will be like a floating grape. His father will be tall and thin and his nose will be pointed like a beak while his mother will be fat with two long hands. When the Anti Christ comes then reserve a seat near the white minarets of the Damascus mosque because that is where Jesus pbuh will return.
 
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Hi Guys and Gals,
I have some questions. I hope you can help with short posts.
Jesus has a resurrected body. Is this true?
If Jesus comes back to this earth at the end of tribulation prior to the 1000 year reign where Satan is locked away. ( I thought a black hole, intense gravitational pull) how is it that on Satans release Jesus is surrounded by Satans followers and is rescued by fire from God. Personally I can not see Jesus being herded ( a second time).
I know the resurrected saints live and reign with Christ 1000 years but that does not say, here on earth does it.?
I see those who are being taught now by Jesus Christ, will be His disciples for the 1000 years as they will be martyred during tribulation. As I can not envisage Jesus being herded a second time, I see these resurrected saints following Jesus's instructions.
I had better stop or I will have books to read as replies.
love
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Hi Guys and Gals,
I have some questions. I hope you can help with short posts.
Jesus has a resurrected body. Is this true? Yes he's spirit now.
If Jesus comes back to this earth at the end of tribulation prior to the 1000 year reign where Satan is locked away. ( I thought a black hole, intense gravitational pull) how is it that on Satans release Jesus is surrounded by Satans followers and is rescued by fire from God. Personally I can not see Jesus being herded ( a second time).
I know the resurrected saints live and reign with Christ 1000 years but that does not say, here on earth does it.? Yes it does. Isaiah 2:2-4 just one of many verses
I see those who are being taught now by Jesus Christ, will be His disciples for the 1000 years as they will be martyred during tribulation. As I can not envisage Jesus being herded a second time, I see these resurrected saints following Jesus's instructions.
I had better stop or I will have books to read as replies.
love
edwin.
Hi Edwin. Really good question. When Satan is locked away he has no idea that the kingdom in Israel is protected by Jesus and his saints. Satan is well versed in the old testament, but he is blocked from the new (1Peter 1:12) All he can see on his release are the waste places being inhabited again and Israel living in peace. He is obviously blocked to what has actually taken place during those 1000 years.

Satan is described as Gog when released and Magog are his followers. You can read about it in Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39 for more clarity, and also Rev 20:8

This is Satan (Gog) talking on his release
Ezekiel 38:11 And thou shall say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates.

Rev 21:21 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and Lamb are the temple of it.

It also says in Rev that the gates are made of pearls. One pearl for every gate. This is obviously a spiritual gate, as you cant make a gate from one pearl.

Satan will try to attack but only surrounds the outside of the camp and does not enter. He will be destroyed. This is for a witness to his end for all to see.
 

zone

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I promise I wont get mad! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Yes, it does look like we will use up all our recources or get very close to it, but the truth is in the bible and God has shared it with those who are seeking.

Most christians do not know, or have not yet discovered information regarding the millenium. It starts after Satan gets locked up (rev 20:2). Satan is bound for a purpose, because at the end of the 1000 years he is going to be let loose.

I have oodles of scripture from the old testament proving this period is yet to come. I will soon post this as I have been working on it and have laid it out easy for anyone to understand. There is only one problem. I have too much scripture and I think its going to be about 24 pages long, so I have to cut it back! (ouch, all that hard work!)

This may sound foreign to some as many are taught that we go straight to heaven or hell when we die and that all the unbelievers will be destroyed at the 2nd coming of Christ. The scriptures say otherwise...

In short....
At Jesus second coming, he will set his kingdom up in Israel for 1000 years. (this area is known as the holy camp, or Mt Zion) He will be ruling the Israelites with his saints and reign over the entire earth. The Israelites will learn the truth & teach the nations during this period. They will still be flesh and blood & God will restore them (the remnant)

When the 1000 years is expired, certain events take place and then the end will come. Then the second judgment occurs and the earth will be melted and re-made along with the heavens. So we need not go anywhere else...it is here we stay. This is when there will be no more sea.
soooooo......the "short space" when satan is bound is 1,000 years long?:rolleyes:

this earth is UTTERLY DESTROYED and Christ Creates a NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH.
brand new.
 

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soooooo......the "short space" when satan is bound is 1,000 years long?:rolleyes:

this earth is UTTERLY DESTROYED and Christ Creates a NEW HEAVENS AND NEW EARTH.
brand new.

When Jesus returns he's job is not yet finished. He's still got work to do. He will be ruling with his saints. Ruling who? ....

The preaching of the truth will go on for 1000 years in Israel.

The new heavens and the new earth are renewed AFTER the millenium. This is when we will see the NEW JERASULAM descending from heaven prepared as a bride for her husband, then God himself will dwell with man (rev 21:2-6) This is when the earth will be melted & renewed and heaven will be on earth as it is in heaven.

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and thre shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the FORMER THINGS are passed away.

Hell will be done away with too.