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Acts 17:11, brother? I don't see the relevance.
That particular verse tells us that we should be reading our Bibles so that we will know truth or deception when we hear them.
 
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That particular verse tells us that we should be reading our Bibles so that we will know truth or deception when we hear them.
Oh, oops. Yes, that's very true. I thought you referring to there being people from all over the world who had been reached at Pentecost. It's all good.
 
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Oh, oops. Yes, that's very true. I thought you referring to there being people from all over the world who had been reached at Pentecost. It's all good.
That's understandable.... I guess I WAS a little too vague in trying to be cute. LOL
 

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Well.... I was talking to a guy at work last Thursday.. just a guy I see outside during breaks.. nice guy. Came in to work this morning to learn he had died on Friday. He had just turned 56 years old.
I'm just going to keep on living as best I can, to be a good witness to others about our Savior... because with all the cussing and discussing about when this event is going to happen, or that event, or what "time" we're in, truth is, the end could come tonight, for any one of us..
I do admire those that study eschatology, and think that they have it figured out, but I'm more concerned with "now".
 

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Well.... I was talking to a guy at work last Thursday.. just a guy I see outside during breaks.. nice guy. Came in to work this morning to learn he had died on Friday. He had just turned 56 years old.
I'm just going to keep on living as best I can, to be a good witness to others about our Savior... because with all the cussing and discussing about when this event is going to happen, or that event, or what "time" we're in, truth is, the end could come tonight, for any one of us..
I do admire those that study eschatology, and think that they have it figured out, but I'm more concerned with "now".
I think there is great wisdom in that attitude. Jesus said,

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will
worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
 

Magenta

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Unreached by special revelation - maybe. Unreached by general revelation - not all. Everyone knows there is a God, but many have suppressed that truth. Creation attests to the fact. And if we go back to the tower of Babel, all family groups from Noah's three sons and their wives travelled all over the world after the confusion of languages at the dispersion. With them they took the truth and their own versions of the truth. As to whether these groups knew of the coming Saviour, that's debatable, and probably less likely. But at least, some of Shem's descendants must have believed.
Believing there s a God, and knowing His plan of salvation, are two completely separate things.
 
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Believing there s a God, and knowing His plan of salvation, are two completely separate things.
Yes, that's true, sister. But there are plenty of people who would say that the unreached people groups don't even know there's one true God. The Bible proves them wrong in that regard.
 
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But "Now", Amen hornetguy.

Learn to share the gospel of grace with simplicity, that is the most important "service" of the ambassador. So many of us "Christians" are ineffective in the basic facts of what our true purpose is in the ministry of reconciliation.


Well.... I was talking to a guy at work last Thursday.. just a guy I see outside during breaks.. nice guy. Came in to work this morning to learn he had died on Friday. He had just turned 56 years old.
I'm just going to keep on living as best I can, to be a good witness to others about our Savior... because with all the cussing and discussing about when this event is going to happen, or that event, or what "time" we're in, truth is, the end could come tonight, for any one of us..
I do admire those that study eschatology, and think that they have it figured out, but I'm more concerned with "now".
 

John146

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So do we rectify Matthew 24:14? If this has already happened, why hasn't the end come?


Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

God will not end it until we have been faithful, because to end it now would lose all those who have not heard who might accept had they known.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

We need to tell the world that God is going to end sin and sinners and all will be judged and all are guilty and the only escape is to believe in Jesus then we are judged in Him on the cross.
 
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I believe we are in the birth pangs.. not the time of judgment.

I believe we are, and have been in the last days since the time of Christ. The final gentile ruler is all that needs to come.. We were already under rome in Christ day.. All rome has to do is regain power..


as for people groups.. There are only a few left if we call then specific nations. If we call them specific people (Africa has many people groups. but itself is a people group) then their are more, Bit we are still close.. and get closer every year (exponentially closer)
 

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Two thousand years ago, the gospel of Jesus Christ went out to all nations and preached to every creature under heaven and yet the end did not come. Why?


So do we rectify Matthew 24:14? If this has already happened, why hasn't the end come?
 
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"For the time has come that judgment must begin at the house of God: - 1 Peter 4:17
 
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Two thousand years ago, the gospel of Jesus Christ went out to all nations and preached to every creature under heaven and yet the end did not come. Why?
because the gospel did not go to all nations and it was not yet preached to every creature under heaven..

Thats why.
 
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Two thousand years ago, the gospel of Jesus Christ went out to all nations and preached to every creature under heaven and yet the end did not come. Why?
What "end" was supposed to come? Learn that, and you will have your answer.
 
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Two thousand years ago, the gospel of Jesus Christ went out to all nations and preached to every creature under heaven and yet the end did not come. Why?
At the stoning of Stephen, when he saw Christ stand up, that was, coulda woulda, should have been the beginning of the end and the second coming... but our Father did something. He suspended the prophecy program and ushered in a dispensational change. Today, God is not dealing with nations or the gospel of the kingdom. Today, God is working to fill a particular realm, with a new creature. This is why Christ appeared to Saul, And, this is why the Lord will catch away the church the body of Christ to an appointed judgment seat, for the one new man.
 
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At the stoning of Stephen, when he saw Christ stand up, that was, coulda woulda, should have been the beginning of the end and the second coming... but our Father did something. He suspended the prophecy program and ushered in a dispensational change. Today, God is not dealing with nations or the gospel of the kingdom. Today, God is working to fill a particular realm, with a new creature. This is why Christ appeared to Saul, And, this is why the Lord will catch away the church the body of Christ to an appointed judgment seat, for the one new man.
The stoning of Stephen? That was not even n the prophetic scale.. Jesus death put an end to the old and brought on the new (after 62 weeks messiah the prince will be cut off)

All this was fortold what the sign will be, the abomination which causes desolation.. After which there will be great tribulation, then the return of Christ.
 

John146

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Yes, I completely agree, but most on here will not see it that way.


At the stoning of Stephen, when he saw Christ stand up, that was, coulda woulda, should have been the beginning of the end and the second coming... but our Father did something. He suspended the prophecy program and ushered in a dispensational change. Today, God is not dealing with nations or the gospel of the kingdom. Today, God is working to fill a particular realm, with a new creature. This is why Christ appeared to Saul, And, this is why the Lord will catch away the church the body of Christ to an appointed judgment seat, for the one new man.
 

John146

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verse 3, "what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?"

What "end" was supposed to come? Learn that, and you will have your answer.
 

John146

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The gospel of the kingdom has not yet been preached, however, the gospel of the death, burial and resurrection has.

Romans 16:24-25, "Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:"

Colossians 1:5-6, "For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:"

Colossians 1:23, "If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;"



because the gospel did not go to all nations and it was not yet preached to every creature under heaven..

Thats why.
 
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Two thousand years ago, the gospel of Jesus Christ went out to all nations and preached to every creature under heaven and yet the end did not come. Why?
Because not all of Israel accepted Him.

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under*her*wings, but you were not willing!*38*See! Your house is left to you desolate;*39*for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is*He who comes in the name of the*Lord!

*Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?”*7*And He said to them,*“It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.*8*But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”