King James says women can be pastors

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Bladerunner

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2 Peter 3: 15-16....."and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation-as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures".

To answer your questions........what Scriptures was Peter referring to even if you want to accept the argument that they both believed they were writing the NT Scriptures? If six of the 14 Scriptures today that were supposedly written by Paul are considered to not have been written by Paul according to the majority of modern day, religious scholars and still other writings of Paul are questionable, what Scriptures was Peter referring to? Was Peter privy to all of Paul's writings?

Pope's, under the authority of the Holy Spirit, have changed their views about religious dogma throughout the years. Were they lying? What kind of question is that? People make mistakes or people's comments may be in reference to specific information and not what we assume. Pastor's, under the guidance of God have made mistakes. Look at Moses.....Moses was a very holy man that supposedly wrote the first five books of the OT. Do you really think God inspired him to tell everyone to stone another human being to death if they were caught in certain sinful acts which is a direct violation of one of the 10 Commandments or did Moses feel that was the best way to punish someone caught in a sinful act? The Commandment "thou shall not kill" should really be "thou shall not murder". This one word is a word that was lost in translation so some bibles say "thou shall not kill" and others say "thou shall not murder". Killing is technically ok but murder is not because it is premeditated and with malice. Therefore, is stoning another human being to death murder or killing? It sounds like murder to me. People make mistakes. Things get lost in translation. Scribes that thought they were doing good by adding information to the Bible created debates today because those additions are considered interpolations today. Women needing to be silent in the church is a perfect example of an interpolation (1 Corinthians 14: 34-35).

I question things and I believe God provides me with insight when I do and I will continue to question whether or not women should be pastors. I personally believe they should.

Guess you need to change that word??????

John 5:46-47 (KJV)

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
 

Bladerunner

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Our flight manuals always had this tid bit in them...."Manuals provide the best available operating instructions for most circumstances, but no manual is a substitute for sound judgment"....Truth and understanding as well as love through God. Do keep in mind that these teachings are from another man, inspired by God I know, but still a man. Anyone can be inspired by God and our knowledge gained over many centuries has changed the view point slightly on our inspired understandings. I absolutely believe with all goodwill towards my belief out of love and truth think women should be able to do anything a man can do.

Aside from that I can read timothy and find that when they use the word wife or wives I am understanding those words to really mean holy spirit.

So God inspired these men and then let them write anything they wanted to. On top of that, the publishers did whatever they wanted and so we now have the KJV that correct but is Bad.


OK,,,I believe I understand that.
 

Bladerunner

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Nope sorry Christ did not write those verses. Inspired by God no doubt but corrupt and promoting his own agenda through that, yes also.

So you don't believe that the Bible is the actual Word of God. It appears you do not! WHY? because if parts of it are not true then how can any of it be true?

I think you have bigger problems that whether or not a woman can be a preacher? Big Problems.
 
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Eleazar

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Necro Thread - 3 Years Old

Eleazar,
Please don't resurrect threads that are 3 years old.


Necro

I apologize if I have erred. My excuse is that i'm new to Chat Forums and I still have a lot to learn.

I would appriciate some information as to what an acceptable time boundary is and if there is a general concensus on this limitation or if this is just your personal opinion. Although I'm a newby I do understand that is is impossible to please everyone, nonetheless I have no desire to go against majority opinion.

It seems to me that the issue of women pastor is very much alive today and can hardly be filed as out of date, however if it truly is considered bad form to address older threads I will abstain from doing so in the future as soon as those limitations are clear to me.

Thank you Necro
 

Magenta

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Necro

I apologize if I have erred. My excuse is that i'm new to Chat Forums and I still have a lot to learn.

I would appriciate some information as to what an acceptable time boundary is and if there is a general concensus on this limitation or if this is just your personal opinion. Although I'm a newby I do understand that is is impossible to please everyone, nonetheless I have no desire to go against majority opinion.

It seems to me that the issue of women pastor is very much alive today and can hardly be filed as out of date, however if it truly is considered bad form to address older threads I will abstain from doing so in the future as soon as those limitations are clear to me.

Thank you Necro
Some people don't mind when old threads are resurrected when the issue still has relevance. However there are a couple of current threads on this same topic, so perhaps that is why.
 
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kaylagrl

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Necro

I apologize if I have erred. My excuse is that i'm new to Chat Forums and I still have a lot to learn.

I would appriciate some information as to what an acceptable time boundary is and if there is a general concensus on this limitation or if this is just your personal opinion. Although I'm a newby I do understand that is is impossible to please everyone, nonetheless I have no desire to go against majority opinion.

It seems to me that the issue of women pastor is very much alive today and can hardly be filed as out of date, however if it truly is considered bad form to address older threads I will abstain from doing so in the future as soon as those limitations are clear to me.

Thank you Necro

No big deal. A thread dormant for a year is usually considered "old". Usually the original poster is long gone by that time.Its not against forum rules. No harm, no foul.
 
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Eleazar

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Some people don't mind when old threads are resurrected when the issue still has relevance. However there are a couple of current threads on this same topic, so perhaps that is why.
Thank you.
 
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Eleazar

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Thank you Magenta
 
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Eleazar

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Thanks Kaylagrl