KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

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Now, what verses prove someone is saved, and then later on born again?
This is the only requirement for being born again that I know of.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Maybe you know of some verses that tie being born again to salvation.
 

SovereignGrace

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This is the only requirement for being born again that I know of.

1 Peter 1:23 Being bornagain, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Maybe you know of some verses that tie being born again to salvation.
Quit deflecting. What verses show ppl being saved w/o being born again? Prove it.
 
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Quit deflecting. What verses show ppl being saved w/o being born again? Prove it.
I just showed you the only requirement that I know of for being born again. I can't add anything else to it.
 

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I can't help it, I can't find any mistakes in it.
You can’t, but many showed you them, and you buried your head in the sand and said, “I don’t see it.”

None so blind as those who WILL NOT see.
 
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Coming from someone who could(should be couldn’t) care less what the originals say? The KJV is not error-free either, mon ami.
Why can't you just tell which incorruptible word you're born again of?
 
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You can’t, but many showed you them, and you buried your head in the sand and said, “I don’t see it.”

None so blind as those who WILL NOT see.
I'm not interested in your opinion for my correction, I need for you to prove it to me from the bible.
 

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I can't help it, I can't find any mistakes in it.
You don't want to so you can't find anything.

Your faith is in a version, for it is a version that you worship, talk of, defend, glory in, argue about and fight over day and night.

Not Christ; a version.

The latter is what you are concerned with, and spare me the Jesus is the KJB argument, (which is what you would really be saying when you claim "Jesus is the Word, so it's all the same.")

That and you're so right about all this you won't even go to church because all others are wrong according to your own testimony. But not you, you're right and the majority is incorrect so you stay home and fight on a forum all day about a version.

Man I pray God delivers you from this snare, you are most thoroughly deceived to think you have it right an are too above others to even attend church because those in church compared to you are in such error.
 
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The Christ, the Son of the living God, who is spoken of in modern versions, too.
I thought you said the word of God and Jesus Christ are not the same... at least when I said it, you said it wasn't true.
 

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What are you proving with those verses?
AngelaBR549 blasted your KJVO supremecy when she showed you the KJV has Luke 2:14 promotes universalism.

The longer ending of Mark 16, is not in a bunch of the earlier mss, but is found in more than John 7:53-8:11. The KJV used mss that were newer, the MV’s using older mss.
 
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You don't want to so you can't find anything.

Your faith is in a version, for it is a version that you worship, talk of, defend, glory in, argue about and fight over day and night.

Not Christ; a version.

The latter is what you are concerned with, and spare me the Jesus is the KJB argument, (which is what you would really be saying when you claim "Jesus is the Word, so it's all the same.")

That and you're so right about all this you won't even go to church because all others are wrong according to your own testimony. But not you, you're right and the majority is incorrect so you stay home and fight on a forum all day about a version.

Man I pray God delivers you from this snare, you are most thoroughly deceived to think you have it right an are too above others to even attend church because those in church compared to you are in such error.
First off, thank you for your prayers, I do sincerely appreciate that. My faith is in Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ is reflected in the KJV. I don't know what else to say. I'm not going to appologize for it lol.
 

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I thought you said the word of God and Jesus Christ are not the same... at least when I said it, you said it wasn't true.
Jesus Christ is the Word of God that came in the flesh. He is the Eternal Word of God. The Bible is what tells us about who He is and what He has done. The Bible is not eternal, as it was written by men of God.
 
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Both Thayer and Arndt & Gingrich mention 'from the first' as a controversial second meaning for anothen.
Thayer accepts its use in Luk 1:3; while Arndt & Gingrich concede it is possible. It is not found in the Koine Greek; but Luke as an educated Macedonian might have used some classical Greek. Did you note that the RSv, ASV, NASB, NIV, HCSB and ESV follow my reading in all other respects. I don't represent myself as infallible; and 'from above' is still the most accepted meaning of anothen.
How would you rank the lexicons you have mentioned. Do you prefer one above all?
 

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First off, thank you for your prayers, I do sincerely appreciate that. My faith is in Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ is reflected in the KJV. I don't know what else to say. I'm not going to appologize for it lol.
Have you found a church to worship in? Are you under the authority of a pastor? Both are necessary.
 
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AngelaBR549 blasted your KJVO supremecy when she showed you the KJV has Luke 2:14 promotes universalism.

The longer ending of Mark 16, is not in a bunch of the earlier mss, but is found in more than John 7:53-8:11. The KJV used mss that were newer, the MV’s using older mss.
So because she says it promotes univeralism that makes it gospel. I'm not a universalist and I read the KJV.
 

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This is not even worth arguing over, this KJV nonsense.

A complete waste of time.

These will never grow, see, or accept facts, and some will remain churchless (1 John 2:19) all the while and make themselves out to be some sort of martyr in the mean time as a last stand and bastion of truth.

Avoiding church is even justified to them for their KJVO position.

All those poor people in churches they condemn as being too wrong for them to even be around. Those poor fools, if only they believed like them all would be well, as they give to missions, fellowship, obey Christ, feed the poor, pray! If only they were KJVO then all would be well and one could join in among them! :rolleyes:

It is utter absurdity to even engage them in conversation. The "KJB" is their idol...
 
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Have you found a church to worship in? Are you under the authority of a pastor? Both are necessary.
I still haven't found a church that doesn't teach that the bible is full of errors. But I do listen to a pastor online, does that count?