KJV-Only Denies the Divinity of Jesus Christ: John 14:14

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chiefofdisciples said:
I can only tell you from my own experience and that which King Jesus has revealed. The kjv bible fulfilled the prophecy of Mark 13:10. Reading the kjv bible believing all that you read will cause you to hear Gods voice.
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ODD thing is, IF YOU READ THE BOOK, you'd find out that your thought there is exactly the opposite of what the Bible says.

I doubt you will acknowledge and discuss that as you seem more interested in all other threads of lecturing and proclaiming victory than an open discussion where every one can learn. But if anyone else would like to know where to read to see Chief's comment shown to be personal not Biblical I'd be glad to attend.
 
Agricola

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Whats this another cult member claiming Holy Spirit for themselves and because they play the "Holy Spirit Told me" card, then everyone else must be being decieved and wrong? yes, sure.

I still have not had a decent reply why God would wait 1600 years before giving us a proper copy of his word, just imagine how Jews etc must feel knowing that all the Holy Scrolls they posessed, which make up the Old Testament, for thousands of years were really corrupt and incomplete, after all the 1611 King James is the only perfect word. Totally illogical and ridiculous.
 
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Hi Praus. Yes, this is way more than just "sleight of hand"; it is downright deception. You keep quoting from the KJB, except of course when you just make up stuff for your "the Praus Bible". Which Greek text are you going to go with? Or do you just pick and choose among all the variants and go with whatever suits your purpose at the moment? Nah... you wouldn't do something like that, would you? Perish the thought. So, tell us, Praus, can you show us a copy (even in Greek if you wish) of your infallible Bible? I'll make it even easier for you. How about just the New Testament. Do you have a complete and infallible New Testament you can show us so we can take a look at it and see what it actually says? Thanks.
 
Praus

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brandplucked said:
Hi Praus. Yes, this is way more than just "sleight of hand"; it is downright deception.
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In other words your "chuckling" has failed and you don't control the control the content of CC forums.

brandplucked said:
You keep quoting from the KJB, except of course when you just make up stuff for your "the Praus Bible".
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The thread topic is KJV-only, so I'm going to quote from the KJV.

brandplucked said:
Which Greek text are you going to go with? Or do you just pick and choose among all the variants and go with whatever suits your purpose at the moment?
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The whole point of posting this in the first place is for my brothers and sisters to attack it using scripture, then rewrite it. If it was about "my purpose" I wouldn't bother.

brandplucked said:
Nah... you wouldn't do something like that, would you? Perish the thought.
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I think you missed this:

Praus said:
If I had a writing style like yours I'd be full of envy too.
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And jumped straight to changing the topic:

Praus said:
So, tell us, Praus, can you show us a copy (even in Greek if you wish) of your infallible Bible? I'll make it even easier for you. How about just the New Testament. Do you have a complete and infallible New Testament you can show us so we can take a look at it and see what it actually says? Thanks.
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Prov 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 
Apostol2013

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Well if you studied church history and the translation history of the bible you will embrace the kjv more than the other tra.slations over countless number of christians died.to bring you that kjv that You speak so against in such discussions like this the people tend to be alike the pharisees and sauducees allways in disagreement and ig you would study history.more would learn that most modern translations were derived from a corrupt manuscript said to be older than those used in the kjv but most of the translations today are corrupt and it is a product of the catholic church to destroy the beliefs of true bible based christians i hope this helps you
 
MaranathaSoonQuick

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As if I couldn't find the evidence supporting the Trinitarian dogma, nor Christ's Divine nature through reading the KJV. (Which I have). The tenets of this movement may not be accurately derived from sound scripture, though this doesn't discredit the KJV in my perspective. Most anyone can come up with a false teaching from twistings of variation from any version of the Holy Bible (66 book canon), that is a well known establishment among the Christ seekers, from they who are cunning in deceitfulness, and a lack of substantial contextuality.
 
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Apostol2013 said:
Well if you studied church history and the translation history of the bible you will embrace the kjv more than the other tra.slations
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I already embrace the KJV more than other translations. The the topic of this thread is KJV-only, not KJV-best.

Apostol2013 said:
over countless number of christians died.to bring you that kjv
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The KJV translators recognized the work of martyr William Tyndale in their introduction, since he was burned at the stake for his Bible translations. If it's that important to you then use the 1531 Tyndale Bible instead of the KJV, no one will object.

Apostol2013 said:
that You speak so against in such discussions like this the people tend to be alike the pharisees and sauducees allways in disagreement and ig you would study history.more would learn that most modern translations were derived from a corrupt manuscript said to be older than those used in the kjv but most of the translations today are corrupt and it is a product of the catholic church to destroy the beliefs of true bible based christians i hope this helps you
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It helps but my position is that we should read more than one English-language Bible translation. I promise you that the Holy Spirit in you will not be tricked by false teachings.

James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
 
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Its more reliable in my opinion the kjv was not just compilated from the tyndale but of all the bible translations of many martyrs moresoever to everyone to their own opinion i respect it in all persons peace of christ be with you all
 
Praus

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MaranathaSoonQuick said:
As if I couldn't find the evidence supporting the Trinitarian dogma, nor Christ's Divine nature through reading the KJV. (Which I have). The tenets of this movement may not be accurately derived from sound scripture, though this doesn't discredit the KJV in my perspective. Most anyone can come up with a false teaching from twistings of variation from any version of the Holy Bible (66 book canon), that is a well known establishment among the Christ seekers, from they who are cunning in deceitfulness, and a lack of substantial contextuality.
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I agree with all of that, and even more I continue to use the KJV as my main study Bible. The original post deliberately used a KJV-only tactic to cherry-pick verses that led the reader to a specific outcome--a poison tactic from a poisonous cult:

The New International Version - NIV



 
Praus

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Apostol2013 said:
Its more reliable in my opinion the kjv was not just compilated from the tyndale but of all the bible translations of many martyrs moresoever to everyone to their own opinion i respect it in all persons peace of christ be with you all
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God bless you brother Apostol2013. Indeed, the KJV translator had access to all of the English language Bible translations, as well as the Greek Textus Receptus, and Luther's Bible in German, and Jerome's Vulgate in Latin. I just found this other the day on Google, Tyndale gets the most credit here, more than 3/4 of the KJV is his work. But Tyndale stood on Wycliffe's shoulder as the KJV translators stood on his.

The Social Universe of the English Bible: Scripture, Society, and Culture in ... - Naomi Tadmor - Google Books

"Behind the superlative (if not emotive) praise of the King James Bible, however, lay the genius of the first English translator of the Hebrew Bible, William Tyndale. The 'companies' that worked on the King James Bible went back to Tyndale afresh, and relied on him heavily, often verbatim, to the point that about 83 percent of the New Testament is deemed to be based on Tyndale and 76 percent of the Old."
 
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