Laying on Hands (Dangerous?)

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CeileDe

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1 Timothy 5:22 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Do not lay hands upon anyone too hastily and thereby share responsibility for the sins of others; keep yourself free from sin.

So has anyone encountered anything strange when laying on hands? Just something someone brought up in chat tonight that they would never allow anyone to lay hands on them and they would never lay hands on someone else. I'm speaking of laying on hands for prayer.

I guess this person felt they could receive something bad from the other person like a sin or a demon?

I've never had this happen to me so just curious if anyone has experienced this or know of anyone who has?
 
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Paul's letter to Timothy was a pastoral letter. Timothy was in spiritual authority at the time within a local assembly. They would lay hands on the leadership being recognized in that local assembly. Perhaps Paul was telling Timothy not to be too hasty to lay hands and "authenticate" leaders before they are ready by the Lord? If people are trust into a leadership position before their time - all kinds of sinning can manifest from the works of the flesh.

How many times have we seen those in a leadership position try to manipulate others or "lord it over their faith"? This is sinning and those that bring them in leadership positions over people are "participating" in this sinning to some degree in this.

That's my quick take on it. I'm sure there is more to it and it most likely has different facets to it.

Here is the context of that verse.

1 Timothy 5:19-22 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Do not receive an accusation against an elder except on the basis of two or three witnesses.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning.

[SUP]21 [/SUP] I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen angels, to maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in a spirit of partiality.

[SUP]22 [/SUP] Do not lay hands upon anyone too hastily and thereby share responsibility for the sins of others; keep yourself free from sin.

I noticed that it is the local elders that are to do all this rebuking and restortation - not every Tom, Dick and Sally from the internet or CC who are not in an eldership position.

( this is why it was legitimate for Paul to mention Hymeanus and Alexander in a private letter to Timothy who was in spiritual authority in that assembly - that he had turned them over to satan. )
 
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blue_ladybug

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I've only had laying of hands done on me once, for healing. No big surprise, it didn't work. :/
 
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Ariel82

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1 Timothy 5:22 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Do not lay hands upon anyone too hastily and thereby share responsibility for the sins of others; keep yourself free from sin.

So has anyone encountered anything strange when laying on hands? Just something someone brought up in chat tonight that they would never allow anyone to lay hands on them and they would never lay hands on someone else. I'm speaking of laying on hands for prayer.

I guess this person felt they could receive something bad from the other person like a sin or a demon?

I've never had this happen to me so just curious if anyone has experienced this or know of anyone who has?
I believe those hands are laid to arrest and punish someone.

Not to pray for them.

I believe in laying of hands and praying for people and that protects. God His children from supernatural evils.

It's unbiblical to say you can receive the sins of someone else.more that it is a sin to falsely accuse and imprison someone.

God says each person will be judged for the own sin and not to use the proverb "the father eats sour grapes and the son's teeth is set on edge"

Children will not be punished or rewarded anymore for their fathers sins or godliness.
 
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hornetguy

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I think Grace nailed it..

We are taught that if you are sick, you should call for the elders to come anoint you with oil, with laying on of hands.

We frequently surround people that are needing prayers, for whatever reason, and everyone that can reach, lays hands on them during prayer. When we have people in the church that are moving away, many times the elders have them come up to the front, and they lay hands on them and pray.
 

MadebyHim

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It's not the hands that heal it's the faith. The centurion did not see his household fit for Jesus

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion, beseeching him,
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy, grievously tormented.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.


[SUP]11 [/SUP]And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour. Matthew 8:5-13

Believe me i'm not saying people that do not get healed right away or never in these fleshly bodies have no faith. This body is not in perfect order, but it seems that the pains, and quirks in body sometimes keep me close in relationship with Him. Even though body is not in great condition thanking Him daily, eases all the pain in body, soul, mind.
 
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Jesus is asking us to be in unity with Him, /acknowledge/leave our desires for the world behind us -
in order to enter into and partake of His Pure, Holy, Water...Holy Spirit...

'Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise
cannot be hid.............
 

Locutus

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Don't try it with my dog Socutus of Corg:





:cool:
 
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Good Lord!!!! How on Earth do so many people get so hung up with interjecting 21st century thinking into the customs of that day?

Basically, all "Laying on of Hands", in that context, means is to "Elevate to a position of authority."
 
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I could write a book on this one(maybe I will). Be VERY careful who lays their hands on you, it is not really the hands that much, it is that a lot of the time the person laying the hands on another requires that the person having hands laid on them must "submit", in the sense that the will is yielding to what the person laying on the hands is giving to them, that can be very dangerous. I do not see it as a big thing if someone simply wants to lay a hand on you and pray for you, however if they in anyway imply that you are to RECEIVE something from them(therefore you yield to receive it) DO NOT ALLOW IT. I had the experience of being part of a church that did this all the time and I witnessed so many people come in with little problems and go out with big problems after yielding to the hands thing. No doubt in my mind that a person who yields himself to another person by the laying on of hands can receive an unclean spirit if the one laying on the hands has such a spirit with him or her.
 

stonesoffire

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There's a superstitious meaning applied to this scripture, that a spirit can pass from one person to another.

I'm surprised that no one said it here. Thanks for the truth Grace.
 

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It's probably OK if they use hand sanitizer first.
 
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It's probably OK if they use hand sanitizer first.
............ and if there are no lawers around to convince them they should sue for being "violated", or having their Personal Space invaded.
 
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Anyone silly enough to believe that someone who yields their self to another person cannot receive the same spirit that is on that person, is really out of touch with reality. For crying out loud...LOOK AT THE LAUGHING MOVEMENT, it spread by people yielding and the laying on of hands.
 
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CeileDe

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Anyone silly enough to believe that someone who yields their self to another person cannot receive the same spirit that is on that person, is really out of touch with reality. For crying out loud...LOOK AT THE LAUGHING MOVEMENT, it spread by people yielding and the laying on of hands.
What is wrong with laughing?