"Let us go on to perfection... and this we will do if God permits."

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Walk trough the valley
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There are those who are saved through the fire but lose their reward, and those who have part in the first Resurrection: to rule with Christ for a thousand years. We are not to compare ourselves with others, but if we are not perfected in Love by the Holy Spirit, we may be forgiven and remain among "The rest of the dead are not raised until the thousand years are fulfilled." Jesus did not seem to care to make a clear distinction between the two groups except hinting that going on to perfection is percevering as a disciple, "He that ensures to the end will be saved." In His first reply to the rich man, Jesus did not make mention of the first Comandment: Loving God with all our heart... until He said "If you will be perfect, go sell all that you have, give to the poor and you will have treasures in heaven, then come follow Me." Jesus mentioned that it was not possible with man but with God. Obeying the caling to go on to perfection is only possible by the Holy Spirit. The disciples failed until after the resurrection when Jesus said to Peter, "Foĺlow me."
Jesus forgiving those who killed Him is not the same as being called as a disciple to go on to perfection. The ones who killed Him were unbelievers at the time, but Jesus said that those who delivered Him to them (the religious leaders) had the greater sin: Of rejecting the Holy Spirit. Obviously this does not necessarily apply to all religious leaders such as Catholics or Boudists who believe that we all become One. They may be with those who don't have part in the first Resurrection as well and we are not the Judges. "The sea will give up the dead that are in them, death and he'll will give up the dead that are in them, and everyone was judged according to his works."
Neither is this intended to discus what that judgment looks like, let's be honest, we don't know, we are not the judges. Those who have part in the first Resurrection are Kings and Priests to God. Revelation 5:10 and Revelation 20:4 Notice that those who have authority to judge are a separate group than the Kings and Priests who are blessed and Holy; neither are the Kings and Priests the ones being judged: the Judgment is after the thousand years are fulfilled. So if we are not the Judges lest not decide what the judgment will be, this page is to make a distinction between those who are Called and Chosen and Faitful and those who will be saved through fire but lose their reward.
1 Corintians 3: But I, brethren, could not address you as spiritual men, but as men of the flesh, as babes in Christ. I fed you with milk, not solid food; for you were not ready for it; and even now you are not ready, for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh, and behaving like ordinary men? For when one says, "I belong to Paul," and another, "I belong to Apol'los," are you not merely men? What then is Apol'los? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. I planted, Apol'los watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. He who plants and he who waters are equal, and each shall receive his wages according to his labor. For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building. According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and another man is building upon it. Let each man take care how he builds upon it. For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each man's work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire. Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If any one destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and that temple you are. Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise."
Building with wood refers to having our affections in this life. I was shown this in dreams...