LIONS AND WOLVES AND FALSE PROPHETS OH MY

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Wall

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The early Christians should have seen this coming. They were actually givin many warnings about the bad guys and what they would do. The warnings are all around the new testament.

1 PETER 5 [8] Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a ROARING LION, walketh about, SEEKING WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR:

ROARING LIONS! The bad guys

MATT.7 [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are RAVENING WOLVES.

FALSE PROPHETS! They are RAVENING WOLVES. “The many” will follow these false prophets and but a few will take the way of life.

ACTS 20 [29] For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous WOLVES ENTER IN among you, not sparing the flock.[30] Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, TO DRAW AWAY DISCIPLES after them.

The GRIEVOUS WOLVES been hangin round from the beginning

EPH.4 [17] This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth WALK NOT AS OTHER GENTILES walk, in the VANITY of their mind,[18] Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:[19] Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all UNCLEANNESS with GREEDINESS.

All these warnings from the new testament are found in one scripture. “Day of the Lord” scriptures are not about ancient Israel. That day has not yet come. Day of the Lord scriptures do apply to christians (those who believe that Jesus came) and these scriptures will come to pass. To see what these ROARING LIONS and RAVENOUS WOLVES have done, simply read and believe the Word.

EZEK.22 [23] And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,[24] Son of man, say unto her, Thou art the land that is not cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation.[25] There is A CONSPIRACY OF HER PROPHETS in the midst thereof, like a ROARING LION ravening the prey; THEY HAVE DEVOURED SOULS; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.[26] HER PRIESTS HAVE VIOLATED MY LAW, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the UNCLEAN AND THE CLEAN, and HAVE HID THEIR EYES FROM MY SABBATHS, and I am profaned among them.[27] Her princes in the midst thereof are like WOLVES RAVENING THE PREY, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get DISHONEST GAIN.[28] And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, SEEING VANITY, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken

A conspiracy of the prophets. HID THEIR EYES FROM MY SABBATHS! They meant to do it and they sure did pull it off despite the warnings. Up until the printing press, bibles were pretty scarce but even if someone discovered the Ezek.22 scripture Im sure the powers that be would have silenced that someone. Short of going before the wizard....How did these bad guys pull this off? No stawman jokes please.
 

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So what am i supposed to do to celebrate new moon festival?

It's tomorrow, so, if it's sin not to keep it it's pretty important to get instruction quickly.

Also am i supposed to restart my calendar by it? So sabbath is 7th day from tomorrow, every calendar Thursday until the next new moon? The way the Hebrew calendar worked before it was changed?

Thanks.
 

Wall

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So what am i supposed to do to celebrate new moon festival?
You must have posted this question here by mistake as there was nothing in the original post about new moons. Anyways

EZEKIEL 45 [17] And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and MEAT offerings, and DRINK OFFERINGS, IN THE FEASTS, AND IN THE NEW MOONS, AND IN THE SABBATHS......

As you can see there were meat and drink offerings to be made during the new moons

COL. 2 [16] Let no man therefore judge you in MEAT, or in DRINK, or in respect of an HOLYDAY, or of the NEW MOON, or of the SABBATH DAYS:

As you can see we no longer need to keep those meat and drink offerings according to Col.2{16}. WHY?

JOHN 6 [55] For MY FLESH IS MEAT INDEED, and MY BLOOD IS DRINK INDEED.
 

Dino246

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There's no icon for it, so I'll just write it...

#facepalm
 
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MATT.7 [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are RAVENING WOLVES.
I always found this kind of confusing....

Christianity is often looked on as a minority. Ironically the reason why Christianity thrived during the third and fourth centuries is because it quickly killed off paganism and became the majority. (Let's just say Christianity was very well "engineered" to do just that)

By the dawn of the 4th century, Almost half of the roman empire was Christian, that's about 30-35 million of the 60 million inhabitants.

Even today, it is the largest religion, with over 2 billion members, that's a third of the world.

Technically you can consider it a "minority" but definitely not to the full extent of the word.

For goodness sake, our calendar revolves around Christianity.. Talk about mainstream...
 

Deade

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A conspiracy of the prophets. HID THEIR EYES FROM MY SABBATHS! They meant to do it and they sure did pull it off despite the warnings. Up until the printing press, bibles were pretty scarce but even if someone discovered the Ezek.22 scripture Im sure the powers that be would have silenced that someone. Short of going before the wizard....How did these bad guys pull this off? No stawman jokes please.
Satan got into the religion business very early in the first century. He had to produce a counterfeit religion to hinder the growth of real Christians. What better way than to give a pagan Roman emperor a vision during a battle and cause him to turn Christian (Constantine).

Of course, the first thing the devil did was substitute another Sabbath, and why not use the one the sun worshipers used. During Constantine's life Rome was converted to Christianity, and he also made it mandatory throughout the empire.

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Satan got into the religion business very early in the first century. He had to produce a counterfeit religion to hinder the growth of real Christians. What better way than to give a pagan Roman emperor a vision during a battle and cause him to turn Christian (Constantine).

Of course, the first thing the devil did was substitute another Sabbath, and why not use the one the sun worshipers used. During Constantine's life Rome was converted to Christianity, and he also made it mandatory throughout the empire.

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No that is not true, he did not force it or make it official.

It was Theodosius I who made it the official religion.

Plus they used Christianity to throw into gear their desire for a unified empire.

Replace "Satan" with "World Elite" and "Religion" with "Control Mechanism".

I don't think there is any such thing as "Real Christianity" since it only exists because of the men in power that peddled it.

Maybe there was a Jesus, and disciples, but I doubt any modern Christian resembles the original teachings in any way.

The bible is the ONLY source for Christianity, (besides the HS which can't be measured) and the origins of the Canon are obviously biased.

The Victorious write the history.

P.S. Rome was already Christian Prior to Constantine...
 

JaumeJ

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Why then do we all read and hear of Constantine wanting to separate the faith from any vestiges of the Hebrews?

Someone changed the Seventh day of the week for the first day of the week, and it was not my Heavenly Father.....

The bottom line truth is simple, God did not change it, ever..
 

Nehemiah6

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Someone changed the Seventh day of the week for the first day of the week, and it was not my Heavenly Father.....
No it was not the heavenly Father but the only begotten Son of God who is Lord of the Sabbath.

The Lord of the Sabbath gave the Church the "LORD's DAY". So when will people start sitting up and taking note that the Lord of the Sabbath decides which will be the day for Christians to rest and worship.
 

posthuman

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You must have posted this question here by mistake as there was nothing in the original post about new moons. Anyways

EZEKIEL 45 [17] And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and MEAT offerings, and DRINK OFFERINGS, IN THE FEASTS, AND IN THE NEW MOONS, AND IN THE SABBATHS......

As you can see there were meat and drink offerings to be made during the new moons

COL. 2 [16] Let no man therefore judge you in MEAT, or in DRINK, or in respect of an HOLYDAY, or of the NEW MOON, or of the SABBATH DAYS:

As you can see we no longer need to keep those meat and drink offerings according to Col.2{16}. WHY?

JOHN 6 [55] For MY FLESH IS MEAT INDEED, and MY BLOOD IS DRINK INDEED.
Oh ok then if col. 2:16 says I don't have to keep new moon it equally says I don't have to keep sabbath.

Or if it says I have to keep sabbath, then I also have to keep new moon. This verse links them together.
Same for Isaiah 66:23, it's either none or both.

I thought it says don't let anyone judge you over these things bit some people says it tells us to judge people over it.
 

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The Lord of the Sabbath gave the Church the "LORD's DAY".
The only place i can find the “Lord’s day” is Rev.1. The many claim the Lord’s day in that scripture is speaking of sunday. Others say its speaking of saturday {Gods sabbath day}. Neither is correct. Its speaking of the “day of the Lord”.

REV.1 [7] Behold, HE COMETH WITH CLOUDS; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of THE EARTH SHALL WAIL because of him. Even so, Amen.[8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.[9] I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.[10] I was in the Spirit on THE LORD'S DAY, and heard behind me a GREAT VOICE, as of A TRUMPET,

he cometh with clouds - of a trumpet - the Lord's day - a great voice - the earth shall wail

ZEPH.1 [14] The great DAY OF THE LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even THE VOICE of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall CRY THERE BITTERLY.[15] That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a DAY OF CLOUDS and thick darkness,[16] A day of THE TRUMPET and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers

a day of clouds - of the trumpet - The great day of the LORD - even the voice - man shall cry there bitterly

See how these two scriptures are speaking of the same exact event. Pretty simple to see now that the Lords day is not sunday nor the sabbath day but another way to say the Day of the Lord. Simply read Rev.1. Why in the world would the earth wail because it was a sunday? However.......

AMOS 5 [16] Therefore the LORD, the God of hosts, the Lord, saith thus; WAILING shall be in all streets; and they shall say in all the highways, Alas! alas! and they shall call the husbandman to mourning, and such as are skilful of lamentation to WAILING. [17] And in all vineyards shall be WAILING: for I will pass through thee, saith the LORD. [18] Woe unto you that desire THE DAY OF THE LORD! to what end is it for you? THE DAY OF THE LORD is darkness, and not light.

There will be plenty of WAILING come the DAY OF THE LORD
 

JaumeJ

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No it was not the heavenly Father but the only begotten Son of God who is Lord of the Sabbath.

The Lord of the Sabbath gave the Church the "LORD's DAY". So when will people start sitting up and taking note that the Lord of the Sabbath decides which will be the day for Christians to rest and worship.
You are going on the vote of the misguided majority putting notions of men into the Mouth of God.

Nowhere does God say the Seventh day is become the First day; the is a travesty of truth for the creation order has not, will not and cannot be changed..

You seem to be part of a group of people who claim knowledge of something not in the Word, and ignoring the gift of the Seventh Day, thinking it is not the Sabbath of god, the Lord.

YOu may read in the story of creation all about the Seventh Day but nowwhere does God say it is now the first day, this issimply a lie perpetrated by Satan.
 
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So how many of you think that your salvation depends on things like the "Sabbath" etc?
 

JaumeJ

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Our Salvation is Jesus Christ and we are to believe Him, the Way the TRUTh AND THE life.

Anything puported by anyone as true and from God that is not from the Word with understandy by means of the Holy Spirit would be a lie, and not Jesus Christ Whom they claim to believe.

Nowhere in the Word does God say the creation week has been changed with the day of res being the first............do not confuse the several sabbaths in the Word with the one that is the gift from the Father to us all to be with Him, not necessarily in assembly but in His rest......

To say God teaches something He does not is apostasy, antiChrist.
 
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Our Salvation is Jesus Christ and we are to believe Him, the Way the TRUTh AND THE life.

Anything puported by anyone as true and from God that is not from the Word with understandy by means of the Holy Spirit would be a lie, and not Jesus Christ Whom they claim to believe.

Nowhere in the Word does God say the creation week has been changed with the day of res being the first............do not confuse the several sabbaths in the Word with the one that is the gift from the Father to us all to be with Him, not necessarily in assembly but in His rest......

To say God teaches something He does not is apostasy, antiChrist.

Where in the new testament does Jesus instruct Christians to rest on Saturday? What about Paul? What does he have to say?
 

Nehemiah6

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Neither is correct. Its speaking of the “day of the Lord”.
Why don't you get properly acquainted with the Day of the LORD before you post again? Indeed get properly acquainted with New Testament truth, since you are quite confused about the New Covenant.

The day of the LORD is a period of divine wrath and judgment.

The Lord's Day is for Christians to be in the Spirit and to hear the voice of Christ.

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet... (Rev 1:10).
 

Nehemiah6

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YOu may read in the story of creation all about the Seventh Day but nowwhere does God say it is now the first day, this is simply a lie perpetrated by Satan.
How can the first day of the week be perpetrated by Satan when the apostles and the apostolic churches had made it the day of Christian rest and worship? More evil-speaking without substance.

Today only unbelieving Jews observe the 7th day Sabbath. And of course Sabbatarians, who cannot even obey the rest of the laws in the Old Covenant.

EXODUS 35
1 And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the LORD hath commanded, that ye should do them.

2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.


Was this a commandment of the Old Covenant? Absolutely

Is this a commandment of the New Covenant? Absolutely not. (Check out Acts 15)

HERE IS THE NEW COVENANT
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Col 2:16,17)

Sabbatarians prefer shadows over the reality of Christ. Very, very sad.
 

Deade

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P.S. Rome was already Christian Prior to Constantine...
When Constantius Chlorus (Constantine's father) was made emperor they still had a ban on Christians. Constantius did not enforce while in the field. He was made emperor while he was in Scotland and he never made it alive out of there to go back and rule. His men appointed Constantine as his successor but Rome had other ideas.

Eventually Constantine winds up in a battle with Maxentius to win the spot of emperor. He, like his father, favored Christianity. Constantine had a vision of a burning cross right before his battle with Maxentius. Above the cross were the words En Hoc Signo Vinces, which means “In this sign conquer.” He therefore fought the battle in the name of the Christian God. His victory caused him to convert to Christianity.

In 313, Constantine issued the Edict of Milan, giving Christians the right to practice their religion. He urges his followers to become Christians, like him. In 321, Constantine issued an edict forbidding work on Sunday. In 323, he defeated the eastern emperor; and became the sole emperor of the east and west. In 324, he established Christianity as the state religion. :cool: