MANY SHALL COME IN MY NAME.

[WeStand]

Do you have foreknowledge from the Father as to the month and year of His Son's return or of the time of judgment? If you do then why not stake your integrity upon it and let us in on that special knowledge. If it came from the Father through the Spirit, surely, you would have no hesitation to convey to the church what the Spirit has to say.

Wakeup, that goes for you also. Seeing how you are looked upon as an elder and faith keeper in the church, it is you duty to edify the church through a word of knowledge that you have been given. Publish it, make it known, now is the time. If it is a mystery that has been hid, surely this is the season to reveal what has been revealed to you. If there is any integrity in what you have been showed by the Lord, it needs to be communicated to edify the body so that we can come into the unity of that special faith you have been given by the Spirit.

This is where you are so wrong Red; wakeup is rising way above his call of duty, If you understood Gods Word, you would understand why the covert actions of God, in having the blessings crossed between Jacob and Essua took place.

This is where there is a change of traditions through Issiac (laughter) and when you go through the entire story with understanding, you would see for yourself, how this is still happening Now.

From this point on, the elder would serve the younger; as the younger is stronger, according to The Father's Will, not mans.

I could go on and on, but its people like you, that are hindering this truth in coming through us, as all you do is cast stones, and don't answer questions that we ask you, or just twist our answers to fit what you want to beleive.

So if its anybodies responsibilty, that would fall more so on me and what would be the point, when all your going to do is trash or ignore it.

And i certainly don't claim to know it all, theres always room for growth, but i at least know what to do in the night of The Lord, or The Day of Trouble and the season in which it happens; not the year.

Forever in Christ

 

[Red33]

What happens in (Mark 13 & Mt 24) takes place during the time of tribulation and Jacob's trouble and will happen to the inhabitants of the earth and not happen to the church for she will be caught up to be with the Lord. Because of the mystery of iniquity that is already at work, there is a measure of these things going on at present in some circles of influence, but not to the intensity and specificity that will take place during that time of trouble. The removal of the church will actually be a major catalyst in these things coming to past and being manifested because the witness and testimony of Christ in the believers of the church over the past 2,000 years will be gone and many things that were held back will now have the freedom and power to be exalted upon the earth in a short period of time. The onslaught of religious fervor will increase exponentially and Satan will be able to introduce majors counterfeits into that system of religion by transforming himself as an angel or messenger of light and understanding to substitute the doctrine of God held in the scriptures with his own seducing doctrine through a systematic demonic inoculation of deception effecting the masses.

 

[wakeup]

What happens in (Mark 13 & Mt 24) takes place during the time of tribulation and Jacob's trouble and will happen to the inhabitants of the earth and not happen to the church for she will be caught up to be with the Lord. Because of the mystery of iniquity that is already at work, there is a measure of these things going on at present in some circles of influence, but not to the intensity and specificity that will take place during that time of trouble. The removal of the church will actually be a major catalyst in these things coming to past and being manifested because the witness and testimony of Christ in the believers of the church over the past 2,000 years will be gone and many things that were held back will now have the freedom and power to be exalted upon the earth in a short period of time. The onslaught of religious fervor will increase exponentially and Satan will be able to introduce majors counterfeits into that system of religion by transforming himself as an angel or messenger of light and understanding to substitute the doctrine of God held in the scriptures with his own seducing doctrine through a systematic demonic inoculation of deception effecting the masses.

You still believe God is very pleased with the church,you are ignoring the scriptures when God says that he is angry,because its desolate: Great tribulation is coming and the church will be put through it, this time is to make that crucial desicion, with deeds not just words.

 

[AnandaHya]

is this another pre and post tribulation debate?

God loves His church but they are not going to be raptured out but must endure tribulation in order to be a testimony to the world of God's righteousness and to bring to an understanding those God calls to Himself. when the Lord comes a third of the sun and earth will be destroyed and the laws of nature will be overturned and there will be no doubt in anyone's mind about it being God. Signs in the clouds can be faked but a complete destruction of the laws of nature is different.

Mark 13:24
[ The Coming of the Son of Man ] “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;

Luke 21:25
[ The Coming of the Son of Man ] “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring;

Acts 2:20
The sun shall be turned into darkness,And the moon into blood,Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD.

1 Corinthians 15:41
There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

Revelation 6:12
[ Sixth Seal: Cosmic Disturbances ] I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.

Revelation 8:12
[ Fourth Trumpet: The Heavens Struck ] Then the fourth angel sounded: And a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them were darkened. A third of the day did not shine, and likewise the night.

Matthew 10:22
And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.

Mark 13:13
And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

the question is will you praise or curse God for what is happening in the world?

 

[zone]

You still believe God is very pleased with the church,you are ignoring the scriptures when God says that he is angry,because its desolate: Great tribulation is coming and the church will be put through it, this time is to make that crucial desicion, with deeds not just words.

yes.
the modern prophecy students who ALWAYS take passages relating to apostate israel and apply to them to christians.

Wakeup 23:38
"Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! << Christians and the blood bought church


Matthew 23:38
"Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! << Jerusalem and the Pharisees cursed - 70AD consummated (Daniel 9 fulfilled):

Daniel 9
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[unclefester]

yes.
the modern prophecy students who ALWAYS take passages relating to apostate israel and apply to them to christians.

Wakeup 23:38
"Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! << Christians and the blood bought church


Matthew 23:38
"Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! << Jerusalem and the Pharisees cursed - 70AD consummated (Daniel 9 fulfilled):

Daniel 9
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Amen and Amen !