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Let every soul be subjet unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves ****ation. For rulers are not terror to good works, but to the evil .......Romans 13:1-3
Wow the Bible says some pretty serious things about breaking the law.
Wow the Bible says some pretty serious things about breaking the law.
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Well, now that people have gone over the legalities and how because if it isn't specifically mentioned in the bible then its okay. Because the absence of something in scripture automatically condones the usage of it? No.
Yes, there are no occurrences where the bible directly talks about marijuana. Is this somewhat surprising to people? The only type of smoking that was going on back then.... when the bible was written was caused by burning wood,houses,sacrifices. So yeah smoking isn't mentioned in the bible.....And i doubt they knew what it did.... for it to be included in meals.
Here is an yahoo question that i saw awhile back to try and get my point across...i found it kinda funny.
Resolved Question:
Is marijuana mentioned in the BIBLE?
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
No. Neither is heroin, ice cream, ipod, microwave oven or naked mole rats.
My point being....it is more of a modern issue. Therefore it isn't mentioned in the bible. But i will put my own take on it.
#1 I want to know the reason why people take weed....and don't detour me by naming the somewhat physically beneficial things it does. Because we all know that's not the reason people take it. I want to know the real reason why you take the drug. I am somewhat interested in that. Stop with the trying to excuse some of the use for it with beneficial reasons...there are other ways to be healthy.
#2 Even when its not extreme addiction..... The people that i have seen involved with usage of it...Use it for an escape from reality or the mental high it gives. To relax themselves in a way that DOES alter their state of mind to some extent. It is some sort of refuge or haven.
In Gods eyes.. personally i couldn't use it for those reasons. To me....he is my escape and the only escape i need...He does not tell me to ignore my reality but gives me strength to face it. He is my refuge and my relaxation.
I think the drug would act as somewhat of a substitute of what he wants to do for me. My God is a jealous God in the sense that he wants to be my everything. And even if i were to only use the drug as a miniscule escape....to me it would be somewhat demeaning of the power he has over my life. ''Why does that person need weed...doesn't he have God?''....And i don't care about being persecuted but i don't want people to assume.....That i need something more than God in my life to move forward...to reduce his power. Is my God not enough that i can do without said drug? I should place nothing before my God. I don't need to add to the list of things i do that are not in Gods name. With a sound mind i could not take marijuana in Gods name. And I doubt anyone can say otherwise.
He is my way....he is my truth and he certainly is my light in this case.
And to not elude from the subject....
''Marijuana plant contains 400 chemicals and 60 of them are cannabinoids, which are psychoactive compounds that are produced inside the body after cannabis is metabolized or is extorted from the cannabis plant. Cannabinoids is an active ingredient of marijuana. The most psychoactive cannabinoids chemical in marijuana that has the biggest impact on the brain is tetrahydrocannibol, or THC. THC is the main active ingredient in marijuana because it affects the brain by binding to and activating specific receptors, known as cannabinoid receptors. "These receptors control memory, thought, concentration, time and depth, and coordinated movement. THC also affects the production, release or re-uptake (a regulating mechanism) of various neurotransmitters." Neurotransmitters are chemical messenger molecules that carry signals between neurons. Some of these affects are personality disturbances, depression and chronic anxiety. Psychiatrists who treat schizophrenic patient advice them to not use this drug because marijuana can trigger severe mental disturbances and cause a relapse. ''
Please tell me why God would want me to use this? This issue isn't to difficult people. Don't let someone confuse you. There is no need for this in our lives as children of God.
Galatians 5
7You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth? 8That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. 9"A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough."
Now, I know that cannibis seeds have little to no THC(meaning no impairment if eaten)...And they are actually quite healthy with different amino acids and the oil. So this is okay..... But i don't feel we should be taking something for the impairment purposes or the high it gives. Which is why people do weed....you do not do it for the health purposes :/
Yes, there are no occurrences where the bible directly talks about marijuana. Is this somewhat surprising to people? The only type of smoking that was going on back then.... when the bible was written was caused by burning wood,houses,sacrifices. So yeah smoking isn't mentioned in the bible.....And i doubt they knew what it did.... for it to be included in meals.
Here is an yahoo question that i saw awhile back to try and get my point across...i found it kinda funny.
Resolved Question:
Is marijuana mentioned in the BIBLE?
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
No. Neither is heroin, ice cream, ipod, microwave oven or naked mole rats.
My point being....it is more of a modern issue. Therefore it isn't mentioned in the bible. But i will put my own take on it.
#1 I want to know the reason why people take weed....and don't detour me by naming the somewhat physically beneficial things it does. Because we all know that's not the reason people take it. I want to know the real reason why you take the drug. I am somewhat interested in that. Stop with the trying to excuse some of the use for it with beneficial reasons...there are other ways to be healthy.
#2 Even when its not extreme addiction..... The people that i have seen involved with usage of it...Use it for an escape from reality or the mental high it gives. To relax themselves in a way that DOES alter their state of mind to some extent. It is some sort of refuge or haven.
In Gods eyes.. personally i couldn't use it for those reasons. To me....he is my escape and the only escape i need...He does not tell me to ignore my reality but gives me strength to face it. He is my refuge and my relaxation.
I think the drug would act as somewhat of a substitute of what he wants to do for me. My God is a jealous God in the sense that he wants to be my everything. And even if i were to only use the drug as a miniscule escape....to me it would be somewhat demeaning of the power he has over my life. ''Why does that person need weed...doesn't he have God?''....And i don't care about being persecuted but i don't want people to assume.....That i need something more than God in my life to move forward...to reduce his power. Is my God not enough that i can do without said drug? I should place nothing before my God. I don't need to add to the list of things i do that are not in Gods name. With a sound mind i could not take marijuana in Gods name. And I doubt anyone can say otherwise.
He is my way....he is my truth and he certainly is my light in this case.
And to not elude from the subject....
''Marijuana plant contains 400 chemicals and 60 of them are cannabinoids, which are psychoactive compounds that are produced inside the body after cannabis is metabolized or is extorted from the cannabis plant. Cannabinoids is an active ingredient of marijuana. The most psychoactive cannabinoids chemical in marijuana that has the biggest impact on the brain is tetrahydrocannibol, or THC. THC is the main active ingredient in marijuana because it affects the brain by binding to and activating specific receptors, known as cannabinoid receptors. "These receptors control memory, thought, concentration, time and depth, and coordinated movement. THC also affects the production, release or re-uptake (a regulating mechanism) of various neurotransmitters." Neurotransmitters are chemical messenger molecules that carry signals between neurons. Some of these affects are personality disturbances, depression and chronic anxiety. Psychiatrists who treat schizophrenic patient advice them to not use this drug because marijuana can trigger severe mental disturbances and cause a relapse. ''
Please tell me why God would want me to use this? This issue isn't to difficult people. Don't let someone confuse you. There is no need for this in our lives as children of God.
Galatians 5
7You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth? 8That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. 9"A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough."
Now, I know that cannibis seeds have little to no THC(meaning no impairment if eaten)...And they are actually quite healthy with different amino acids and the oil. So this is okay..... But i don't feel we should be taking something for the impairment purposes or the high it gives. Which is why people do weed....you do not do it for the health purposes :/
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Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. Proverbs 3: 5-6
So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. 1 Corinthians 10:31
There are many other forms of personal enjoyment besides those that can be destructive, and lets face it, illegal.
So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. 1 Corinthians 10:31
There are many other forms of personal enjoyment besides those that can be destructive, and lets face it, illegal.
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Well I looked in his other thread comments and he does repeat that quite often without commenting on his true feelings. New chat memebers like myself would be inclined to think he does believe this way if we didn't look at his profile. Even looking at his profile for that matter. I would hope that most don't belive this and I never implied you did, nor anyone else. There are many young christians who are very impressionable and confused with their new found faith, and this is not something that they need to be confused about. I would love to hear from him on this! God bless, and have a wonderful weekend.
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Wasn't saying that we should not have personal enjoyment. My statement was just towards cannabis. Hmm well don't really like the word personal in the way when its used as if... to imply that God is not watching/with me during my personal enjoyments...my relationship with him is at minimum personal...his spirit is a part of me.
It's quite silly to put playing cards and smoking cannabis in the same category....anything can be a personal enjoyment. But even that has to fall under what God wants in my life. Things that will not distract me from that. When I accept God in my life..I am accepting him in every aspect of it. To live in Imago dei.
Do you think God wants us to do....such things that can easily become malevolent...by impairing our mental state in different ways..Making you abnormal and somewhat not conscious because of it. He wants us to have a clear state of mind.
Why must we humans walk a fine line.
My bible says to give him all my heart, MIND and Soul.....Taking a deleterious drug that effects your mind in a way that could lead to negative actions/Addiction...for the purpose that i want to change my mental state. Does not seem like something that someone who is persevering to give all there MIND to God would do.
It's quite silly to put playing cards and smoking cannabis in the same category....anything can be a personal enjoyment. But even that has to fall under what God wants in my life. Things that will not distract me from that. When I accept God in my life..I am accepting him in every aspect of it. To live in Imago dei.
Do you think God wants us to do....such things that can easily become malevolent...by impairing our mental state in different ways..Making you abnormal and somewhat not conscious because of it. He wants us to have a clear state of mind.
Why must we humans walk a fine line.
My bible says to give him all my heart, MIND and Soul.....Taking a deleterious drug that effects your mind in a way that could lead to negative actions/Addiction...for the purpose that i want to change my mental state. Does not seem like something that someone who is persevering to give all there MIND to God would do.
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I think they fall under the same category as all morally neutral forms of enjoyment do. I agree with the rest of your paragraph though, but I suppose I just draw the line somewhere else.
Many people enjoy a certain degree of mental impairment (if that's what you want to call it) when they drink, and the majority of Christianity has no problem with this. I just don't see the need to isolate and condemn cannabis use.
I don't think anyone is deliberately cutting it close. Rather, because of our imperfect natures, everything we do has the potential to become a vice: drinking, smoking, playing cards, drinking tea etc. Even though these activities are in and of themselves morally neutral, it is possible to abuse them. I simply place cannabis use in the same category.
I see what you mean, but loads of things affect our mental state that we would not condemn. For instance, is it okay to get a sugar or caffeine high? What about the buzz one gets from physical exercise? I just think that to single out cannabis is arbitrary.
Many people enjoy a certain degree of mental impairment (if that's what you want to call it) when they drink, and the majority of Christianity has no problem with this. I just don't see the need to isolate and condemn cannabis use.
I don't think anyone is deliberately cutting it close. Rather, because of our imperfect natures, everything we do has the potential to become a vice: drinking, smoking, playing cards, drinking tea etc. Even though these activities are in and of themselves morally neutral, it is possible to abuse them. I simply place cannabis use in the same category.
I see what you mean, but loads of things affect our mental state that we would not condemn. For instance, is it okay to get a sugar or caffeine high? What about the buzz one gets from physical exercise? I just think that to single out cannabis is arbitrary.