Matthew 5:36

[MahogonySnail]

That's not a solution to world hunger.

Feeding people is a solution that's why there are so many organisations that do just that.

In general if the biblical principles of loving thy neighbour, giving generously, not being greedy, and meeting needs not greeds was practiced by all, particularly corporate organisations , and make savings by get rid of gambling, consumer debt (wise financial management /spending), by everyone the problem would be easier to manage.

I dont now how you can say the bible doesn't give any solutions. There's also plenty of preventative advice for general health in the bible which can help prevent cancer.

 

[Arel]

Feeding people is a solution that's why there are so many organisations that do just that.

In general if the biblical principles of loving thy neighbour, giving generously, not being greedy, and meeting needs not greeds was practiced by all, particularly corporate organisations , and make savings by get rid of gambling, consumer debt (wise financial management /spending), by everyone the problem would be easier to manage.

I dont now how you can say the bible doesn't give any solutions. There's also plenty of preventative advice for general health in the bible which can help prevent cancer.

1) Maybe I wasn't clear...I said WORLD HUNGER. To solve world hunger, you need to constantly feed EVERY PERSON ON THIS PLANET every day of every week of every month of every year.

2) I didn't say the bible didn't give any solutions. I just said the bible deals with spiritual matters.

 

[MahogonySnail]

You mean a complete solution to world hunger.

The bible does deal with spiritual matters, (which is a cause of physical problems anyway) but there's a lot of good practical advice there too such as in proverbs.

 

[Definition_Christ]

Interesting thread
I have to agree with Mobius on this one.

I'm reading through this, and I don't think the symbolism of colors is really the point here. I'm sure this (like so many biblical phrases) can likely be traced to some kind of Hebrew idiom, which I could look into..

But I don't think it's strictly necessary to get the message. Whatever it meant for a person to swear by their head, we're not supposed to do that. We CAN understand that we are unable by trying to make a single hair on our heads go (naturally, from the root) lighter or darker.. it simply it what it is.

The more important theme of this passage (Mat 5:33-37) is simply that we are not to take oaths. I was relieved to find, for example, that my State has allowed "affirm" to be used in place of "swear" when a person takes the stand. I was quite worried about this, because I don't belive in taking oaths, due to this passage.

But the message is more than just refraining from the activity of swearing. We are being charged with the responsibility to live up to what we say, so that our "Yes" really DOES mean "yes" not "maybe" or "if I have time." Personally, I think that's a much richer message anyway, that can lead to years of personal growth, if we allow it shape our lives.

 

[MaggieMye]

The Scriptures do not have the cure for cancer. Cancer is infirmity caused by iniquity....and almost always spirits of fear and unforgiveness.
They don't have the solution to world hunger. Countries that have repented of their witchcraft, rebellion and idolatry have been able to step into the prosperity that God intended for them to have.
They don't tell us how to obtain world peace. World peace is a falicy. It is a 'nice thought'. But it is something that will NEVER happen as long as satan has control of the earth. ONLY when the Bride returns for the 1000 year reign will there be true peace on the earth...and then only until satan is released for the final confrontation.

I was asking what your idea of Christian theology is and what about it you are so opposed to.
Maggie

 

[shad]

In and of itself black hair means NOTHING ...UNLESS you see it in a dream on a person that you know that does not have black hair in real life. Then it would REPRESENT that their wisdom COULD be an evil type of wisdom....or of the world. Certain ethnic groups have black hair...it is a part of their genetic make-up. Does it mean their sinful? No, just like being blond does not really mean a person is dumb or stupid. There are also ethinic groups that are of the blond nature...Norwegians for example, and most Swedes.
Having white hair, IN DREAMS, can signify WIDSOM OR MATURITY. But in real life, it means old age or, again, genetics.
The only reason that people DYE their hair? Vanity.
Maggie

At 59 yrs I have lots of gray hair that came in over the past 10 yrs against my natural dark brown and I never colored it. My wife mentioned that there is a product on the market that will take out some of the gray and bring back some of the natural color. I tried it, it was gentle and it came out great and looked natural. The product was inexpensive and I got two applications, lasting 10 weeks. It comes to $35 a year with no side effects or hair damage. Their was no vanity in that and I was happy with the results. I hope you don't think that all men that wear hair pieces because of of premature hair loss or otherwise are being exercised in vanity!

 

[imoss]

While G-d's healing powers are incredible...He is hardly a cure for cancer. I'm talking about the kind of cure we have for other illnesses...the kind that EVERYONE gets that pretty much purges the illness completely.

That being said, again: G-D may be the cure for cancer, but the Scriptures still do not show a cure for cancer.



Therefore, my point stands: Scripture provides a solution to neither.

Tell that to my cousin who was filled with cancer, hadnt eaten in 50 days down to 80lbs and in Jesus name had a miraculous healing that caused even his medical practitioners to seek the Lord. Cancer free for 6 years in august Praise the Lord. There was a requirement though that he use his testimony to bring others to Christ... So yes, God does cure cancer in Jesus name and yes that is in the Bible.

 

[MaggieMye]

Our government already has a cure ...yes a CURE for cancer. But they will not tell people about it because too much money is involved. The Gov. and pharmaceutical companies would loose Billions!!

Maggie

 

[Arel]

Cancer is infirmity caused by iniquity....and almost always spirits of fear and unforgiveness.

Care to show me that in Scripture?

Countries that have repented of their witchcraft, rebellion and idolatry have been able to step into the prosperity that God intended for them to have.

Uh-huh. See, when I read Scripture, people who follow G-d AREN'T promised prosperity. So this and Scripture doesn't seem to coincide.

World peace is a falicy. It is a 'nice thought'. But it is something that will NEVER happen as long as satan has control of the earth. ONLY when the Bride returns for the 1000 year reign will there be true peace on the earth...and then only until satan is released for the final confrontation.

The word is "fallacy", and if world peace will happen, as you say, when this "bride" comes back, then world peace is NOT a fallacy.

I was asking what your idea of Christian theology is and what about it you are so opposed to.

Christian theology is what Christians believe, and I'm opposed to most of it because, to me, it goes against Scripture.

 

[Arel]

Our government already has a cure ...yes a CURE for cancer. But they will not tell people about it because too much money is involved. The Gov. and pharmaceutical companies would loose Billions!!

Maggie

Can you prove that?

I mean, *I* am a conspiracy theorist myself, and even *I* think this is crazy.

 

[Arel]

Tell that to my cousin who was filled with cancer, hadnt eaten in 50 days down to 80lbs and in Jesus name had a miraculous healing that caused even his medical practitioners to seek the Lord. Cancer free for 6 years in august Praise the Lord. There was a requirement though that he use his testimony to bring others to Christ... So yes, God does cure cancer in Jesus name and yes that is in the Bible.

My great aunt (grandmother's sister-in-law) was also healed of cancer by G-d.

 

[carmellia09]

my grandaddy was healed form cancer

 

[Mobius]

Cancer sure is a wierd one, isn't it?

I personally wonder if the proliferation of nuclear materials may not be responsible. Not just Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as these are a teeny tiny drop in the bucket of how much tritium and radioactive material we (mankind) have detonated and released over the years. I definitely think with cancer above other diseases, there could well be a spiritual component. I mean, plenty of disease cause a loss of function, or damage to various tissues...

But for the body's own cells to be turned AGAINST the rest of the body.. it's very very different. And it seems like it was only after WW2, that cancer was a known, recognized disease. Maybe it was around, but it doesn't seem like it ranked among the top killers, at all.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, and I wouldn't mind hearing more about this alleged cancer cure.

Consider the track record. DuPont chemical company SUCCESSFULLY spearheaded a campaign to ban their product Freon, (used in refrigerators and A/C units) despite an overwhelming lack of verifiable evidence that it did the damage to the environment they claimed, just because their patent was running out, and anybody was going to be able to make it.

 

[MaggieMye]

Care to show me that in Scripture? It is scientifically proven that when people live in fear or unforgiveness, they suffer in their health. While all scripture is true, not all truths are included in scripture.

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Countries that have repented of their witchcraft, rebellion and idolatry have been able to step into the prosperity that God intended for them to have.

Uh-huh. See, when I read Scripture, people who follow G-d AREN'T promised prosperity. So this and Scripture doesn't seem to coincide. When people are obedient to God, they receive blessing. Prosperity is a blessing, is it not? God never intended His creation to live in poverty, but because of their rebellion towards Him, they do.
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World peace is a falicy. It is a 'nice thought'. But it is something that will NEVER happen as long as satan has control of the earth. ONLY when the Bride returns for the 1000 year reign will there be true peace on the earth...and then only until satan is released for the final confrontation.

The word is "fallacy", and if world peace will happen, as you say, when this "bride" comes back, then world peace is NOT a fallacy. So I didn’t use the spell checker…get over it. I new it was wrong, but figured you were smart enough to ‘get it’. World peace IS a fallacy in that it will not happen in the lives of humans prior to the 2nd coming of Christ. Only those that are ‘born of God’…born again and true followers of Jesus will ever see that far-off TRUE peace that will encompass the world …for a time, and then again.
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I was asking what your idea of Christian theology is and what about it you are so opposed to.

Christian theology is what Christians believe, and I'm opposed to most of it because, to me, it goes against Scripture. Not only is that a cop-out. It makes no sense. Christians do follow the Bible. But you are no different. You would, even by yourself, simply be yet another doctrine of claiming to have it right when no one else does.
Bottom line: ALL Believers/Christians/Followers of Christ need to get over the small stuff and BE OF ONE MIND, UNIFIED, walking in love towards all they encounter. Until they do, there is no purified Bride that can meet our Savior in the air or attend the wedding banquet.
Maggie
...and the cure for cancer is found in NUTRITION. But that would be too easy, right? Gen 1:29 If we eat right, we will have strong immune systems that can, along with knowing one's authority in Christ, overcome all sickness.
We are to take dominion over the earth and subdue it, taking it back from satan. When we do that, we obtain divine health. Foir most, it is easier said, or read about, than done.
Maggie

 

[Arel]

While all scripture is true, not all truths are included in scripture.

You realize that's exactly what I said that you disagreed with, right?

When people are obedient to God, they receive blessing. Prosperity is a blessing, is it not? God never intended His creation to live in poverty, but because of their rebellion towards Him, they do.

Perhaps. But let's also remember that bad times for those who follow Him are not because they are not obeying or trusting Him.

World peace IS a fallacy in that it will not happen in the lives of humans prior to the 2nd coming of Christ.

That does not make something a fallacy.

You would, even by yourself, simply be yet another doctrine of claiming to have it right when no one else does.

Actually, I have never claimed to have it right and that everyone else is wrong. Quite the opposite.

Bottom line: ALL Believers/Christians/Followers of Christ need to get over the small stuff and BE OF ONE MIND, UNIFIED, walking in love towards all they encounter. Until they do, there is no purified Bride that can meet our Savior in the air or attend the wedding banquet.

Question is, are you actually willing to follow the words you just said?

If we eat right, we will have strong immune systems that can, along with knowing one's authority in Christ, overcome all sickness.

So if someone follows G-d and die of cancer, does that mean they are doing something wrong?

 

[MahogonySnail]

Maggie believes if anyone dies before the age of 70-80 it is God's punishment. Weirdos.

 

[MaggieMye]

Perhaps. But let's also remember that bad times for those who follow Him are not because they are not obeying or trusting Him. True. Often God’s people suffer because of what others do to them. WE, Believers, are not responsible for the actions of others. We are, however, responsible for how WE respond to those bad times and things done against us. We need to remember that Jesus simply walked away, or kept His mouth shut, letting His Father be the Avenger.
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World peace IS a fallacy in that it will not happen in the lives of humans prior to the 2nd coming of Christ.

That does not make something a fallacy. Let me reiterate: World peace in our lifetime, at any time before the coming of Christ, is a fallacy. It will NOT happen. History repeats itself and there has NEVER BEEN world peace. The ONLY peace, true peace was in the Garden before Adam allowed Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit.
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Bottom line: ALL Believers/Christians/Followers of Christ need to get over the small stuff and BE OF ONE MIND, UNIFIED, walking in love towards all they encounter. Until they do, there is no purified Bride that can meet our Savior in the air or attend the wedding banquet.

Question is, are you actually willing to follow the words you just said? I’m TRYING!!! Are we not All works in progress?
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If we eat right, we will have strong immune systems that can, along with knowing one's authority in Christ, overcome all sickness.

So if someone follows G-d and die of cancer, does that mean they are doing something wrong? No. But it most likely would mean that there is some curse in their life that they are not aware of keeping the door open for the demonic. It could be generational, it could be witchcraft being done against them without their knowledge. People perish for lack of KNOWLEDGE.
Maggie believes if anyone dies before the age of 70-80 it is God's punishment. Weirdos. That is a lie. I have NEVER said it is God’s punishment. I said it is because the devil has a legal right to try to kill them. People die young because they either don’t know God at all OR because they lack understanding in the authority He has given them so they can be the overcomers that He created them to be. Don’t twist my words.
Maggie

 

[MahogonySnail]

Maggie - apologies for misunderstanding you. But I do believe that sometimes people just die young, and your view is a bit too generalised, it is easy to claim that everyone who dies young has some sort of "legal right" from the devil - but it cannot be proven.

 

[Jezreel]

Back in the old days in Egypt etc, women used Henna on their hair for coloring. I used to use Henna many decades ago since my hair had a natural auburn hue to it. Red is my favorite color, especially burgundy. I use Natural Instincts of a burgundy red color on my hair and I just love the color! I barely have any grey hair for my age anyhow and that is not what I want to cover. I have no conviction at all about rinsing my hair with that. It has no peroxide and is very gentle and since my hair is long, I love to do my hair like a decoration at times, with my hair all on top of my head, I can turn it into a Christmas tree and put decorations all over it. I got a necklace that is seasonal that has tiny blinking lights and that makes awonderful strand to go in my hair!! My grandkids love it!!

 

[MaggieMye]

Maggie - apologies for misunderstanding you. But I do believe that sometimes people just die young, and your view is a bit too generalised, Mahogany: Consider that every person every born has a PURPOSE. …a GOD-GIVEN purpose. No child can fulfill his/her purpose without being old enough to KNOW God so as to step into that destiny plan that He created that person for. That would be like making a dinner and then throwing it out before it could serve its purpose!! Or like building a house only to burn it down before it could be lived in. God does not do anything without purpose. BUT because of the fallen nature of man before he comes to Christ, he is a target that satan wants to take out BEFORE that person can get saved. Unsaved people, to satan, are nothing more than pawns on the game board….and he is bent on winning…or should I say TAKING as many as he can get. Satan wants to kill as many of God’s creation that he can because he hates God, and man, that much. it is easy It is neither hard nor easy. It is truth. to claim that everyone who dies young has some sort of "legal right" from the devil - but it cannot be proven. Knowing the nature of God (love) and His character (love) is proof enough. He has made a promise Prov. 90:10. He will never go against His own word. But neither will He force people to seek the knowledge that can see them free from these types of consequences. It is there, always, for the asking and for the seeking. Ask and ye shall find, seek and ye shall find. God does not create something only to kill it or want it to die. That is not His nature.
Maggie

Let's get over the vanity thing. Doing things to improve your appearance IS a thing of pride...self esteem. But it is not a SIN of pride unless a person is excessive about it. Like refusing to leave the house because you haven't spend # hours doing your make up and hair (Loni Anderson!!) or spending money you don't really have on products because you believe (the lies) what the commercial says..that you will have a GRAND life if you use their product. How about if we call, 'general make up (including hair dye), excercise, and healthy eating MAINTENENCE, instead of vanity. I know somewhere there is a fine line..................don'tchyathink?? We need to remember that it is not a sin to be PROUD of our children....although in Scripture, the Father says of His son, "Of whom I am well-PLEASED". Maybe its just a language thing.
Maggie