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JaumeJ

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There is no mention in the Word that the name of our God should not be pronounced. This teaching is from rabbinical teaching, and it is a holier than thou concept.

The truth is God's name is to be proclaimed throughout the nations. When thinking in terms of His name, keep in mind the word, shem, Hebrew transliteration of the word, name, though usually translated as name is the same as in our tongue. It means fame, renown, reputation and all the word, name, entails. His fame is to be spread everywhere.

Although I love to call Him Yahweh, I am guilty also of not actually translating His name to my language, for it means self-existing, and, naturally, there is only one being Who may use this title or name in truth, He being our Father.

When we use any accepted name for our Father, and for Jesus Christ, we are spreading His fame, His renown, and His reputation.

As for the name, Yahweh, to say it is unpronounceable goes against all thinking people's reason. It is the gerund form of a verb in Hebrew meaning to be, only unlike in our language it is transitive when God uses it as His name. Anyone who knows anything at ll about grammar and linguistics is well aware that a gerund may be formed from any verb, and the pronunciation follows the rules of the language in use. How difficult is it to make the gerund form of to be in English and pronounce it. Here is the gerund form, being; now is it possible to pronounce? Of course it is, and all languages follow suite.

You like to use God and Jesus? God is from Sanskrit without knowledge of its origin, however It has come to be the popular word in English for our Maker. I like Yahweh because I think in terms of His saying this to Moses, and it defines best His Entity in being self-existing. Nothing created may use this term in truth.

Bottom line, call the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit what you will as long as it is in total reverence.

Do not be like the over pious who take from "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain," to mean you cannot say His name. It means do not invoke any of His titles frivolously or with disdain. He is to be revered.

His Hebrew name is pronounceable, and there is nothing magic about it. His name is to be proclaimed, His fame, His renown and His reputation. Rabbinical teachings will many times mystify meanings and the rights of the children of God. Rabbinical teachings run rampant within the hierarchies of today's denominations, so watch for them, you, children of the Most High God.
 
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Kerry

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Jack the problem is that if think that calling Him Yahweh or yeshua makes you closer to God than the work of the cross. Then it is a sin, because it voids the cross. Just like faith in keeping law voids the cross. Jesus said I am the truth the life and the way no man comes to the Father accept by Me. Meaning His work at the cross. Anything that ticles the flesh and bypasses the cross is a sin and will not be accepted.
 

JaumeJ

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Before assembling words together calling it a response it is best to read and understand the OP first. What you reply has nothing to do with what is posted unless you imagine it does. Your word assembly demonstrates a total misinterpretation of the OP.

Jack the problem is that if think that calling Him Yahweh or yeshua makes you closer to God than the work of the cross. Then it is a sin, because it voids the cross. Just like faith in keeping law voids the cross. Jesus said I am the truth the life and the way no man comes to the Father accept by Me. Meaning His work at the cross. Anything that ticles the flesh and bypasses the cross is a sin and will not be accepted.
 
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Kerry

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I see your point Jack. But God in the hebrew is Elohim, and means creator even the animals call Him Elohim. There are many names of God in the bible Jehovah ( or Yahweh) Jireh, my provider. Jehovah Rophe, my healer. Jehovah shalom, my prince of peace and so and so on. Call Him what want, just call and remember that it is by the cross that we can even call.
 

JaumeJ

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Elohim in Hebrew may mean God, god, strong man, and much more. Jehovah is an impossible pronunciation of Yahweh since there is no "J" sound in the Hebrew tongue and aleph-bet. Other references and meanings are misinterpreted here in your post also.

The point of my post is, as long as there is reverence to God and to the Son, there is no sin in calling Him by the name one knows and loves most.

Keep in mind also, Yeshua, that is ישעה when actually translated means Salvation. This gives all sense to when the angel told Mary to name the Child, Salvation, for He was to save His people. Jesus means the same, Salvation, only the name is three times removed from the Hebrew via Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English. Both names are the same in Hebrew, and, again, translated completely to English, Salvation.

I have never attempted to order others to use any one name, but I have defended myself. I realize my own error, for there is no reason for me to defend myself while I am in the grace of Yeshua, but I may contribute to the understanding of all in knowing what scripture means, even in translating completely names of people and places, and, sometimes, words, when they have been abandoned in their transliterated forms. I do hope you understand this. God bless you always......
 
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Kerry

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Jack, Call him Yeshua or call him Yahweh. As long as your faith is in the work of the cross, you are my brother. His name is above every name and you and I and millions will stand on that glassy sea and throw our crowns down and worship the lamb of God. Come Lord Come.
 

JaumeJ

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Thank you Kerry, that is very kind of you. God bless you always.
 
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My son-in-law's name is the same a mine. Both my sons married girls whose name was the same as my daughter’s name. Without identifying their individual characters, there would be mass confusion. I therefore submit to all that read this that when describing an individual the pronunciation is good for starters, but without identifying their character no one will know who you are talking about. Henceforth, describing the character of God our Father in heaven, including our actions, we must exemplify the true character of our Lord and Father in heaven through Christ Jesus. One cannot do that without knowing the truth.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

To take His name in vain would then mean distorting His Word, His desire, and His purpose for mankind from the beginning. That thought can, and does, or at least should give a person the correct kind of fear that the Bible directs us to have.

Hebrews 4:1-4 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.


The other thing I would like to mention is that there are a couple of threads about the Sabbath day, the usage of that day is for meditation, and sharing God's glory with others. Some say it isn't necessary, and others say it is to be kept on Saturday. They are both missing the real reason for the Sabbath day. It seems vain to me to argue about the Word of God, and totally miss the character of His divine deity. As long as God is one in Christ, all arguing really does is distort the truth to the unlearned, and causes edification to cease. That’s not within the realm of God’s name, henceforth it is taking His name in vain.

Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
 

p_rehbein

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Exodus 3:13) And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 .) And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

20:1) And God spake all these words, saying, 2 .) I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

34:14) For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

Just a few quick references I thought of............I wonder how many different names God told His messengers to call Him when someone asked who sent them? Any ideas?
 

zone

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JESUS IS HIS NAME.

i think God likes the English language.
He ordained the Gospel and Christs Name be known to every people in every language.

MORE TRUTH.
 

Josh321

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Jack the problem is that if think that calling Him Yahweh or yeshua makes you closer to God than the work of the cross. Then it is a sin, because it voids the cross. Just like faith in keeping law voids the cross. Jesus said I am the truth the life and the way no man comes to the Father accept by Me. Meaning His work at the cross. Anything that ticles the flesh and bypasses the cross is a sin and will not be accepted.
i called on Jesus and he replied :) idk about the rest
 
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Exodus 6:3 (KJV)
[SUP]3[/SUP] And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

I thought that this verse meant the Lord over Jehovah. (?????) So I remembered that there are many attributes concerning Jehovah, so I started taking what I knew and studying the attributes to see what God's name means for real.

Yehovah (Jehovah) means self-existent. (Strongs 3068, from the word hayah)
Hayah is a related word to Jehovah meaning to exist, denoting action, meaning “come to pass” or “continue to happen” (Strongs 1961)

There are several references, in the Bible, connected with the name Jehovah. The added Hebrew words to Jehovah are the actions of God’s motivation, with whatever the situation may require, accordingly. So lets start with the word “Jehovahjireh.”


Yehovah yireh is to “see” related to Mount Moriah. (where Golgotha is located)

Genesis 22:2 (KJV)

[SUP]2[/SUP] And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

Genesis 22:14 (KJV)

[SUP]14[/SUP] And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.


Yehovah nicciy
(3071) is a banner for the battle at hand.

Exodus 17:15-16 (KJV)

[SUP]15[/SUP] And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovahnissi:
[SUP]16[/SUP] For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.


Yehovah tsidqenuw (3072) our right, or our righteousness, and is a symbolical epithet of the Messiah and of Jesus. It is also related to the name “Melchizedek” and the city of Jerusalem.

Jeremiah 23:6 (KJV)

[SUP]6[/SUP] In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Jeremiah 33:16 (KJV)

[SUP]16[/SUP] In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.

Jeremiah 33:16 (CJB)
When those days come, Y'hudah will be saved, Yerushalayim will live in safety, and the name given to her will be ADONAI Tzidkenu [ADONAI our Righteousness]."


*tsedeq (6664) is a related word to *tsidqenuw, or *tzidkenu, meaning the right way or the equity thereof.

Compare this with the name Malkiy Tsedeq (Melchizedek) meaning king of right and/or equity. Look at Genesis 14:18 and one will also see that Melchizedek was the king of Salem, later known as Jerusalem. This comparison is important, for the next word I present defines shalom, or shalem in summary. Yeru in the name Yerushalem means teach. Shalem is a complete shalom as we will see in the description following. Therefore Jerusalem means to teach complete peace.

yehovah shalowm (3073) meaning peace

Judges 6:23-24 (KJV)
[SUP]23[/SUP] And the LORD said unto him, Peace be unto thee; fear not: thou shalt not die.
[SUP]24[/SUP] Then Gideon built an altar there unto the LORD, and called it Jehovahshalom: unto this day it is yet in Ophrah of the Abiezrites.



yehovah shammah (3074) meaning thither or time of appearing as then, here, and there. Breaking it down even further, “sham” is indicating the transfer to time, and “ah” meaning the source of stability, and power. Therefore, “shammah” is described as the power of God appearing at the appropriate time.

Ezekiel 48:35 (KJV)
[SUP]35[/SUP] It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there.

Ezekiel 48:35 (CJB) “The perimeter of [the city] will be just under six [miles] long. And from that day on the name of the city will be ADONAI Shamah [ADONAI is there].”

With the above explanations we discern that………..
God is the power of Jehovah that continues to happen at exactly the right time.
He is the strength of what is seen with the spiritual eyes.
He is the banner that goes forth and the power that gives us the capability to
conquer.
He is the motivation of righteousness, equity.
He gives us the instruction according to His perfect will.
He is the source of power, and the Prince of Complete Peace.