Must Christians Ask For Forgiveness Every Time They Sin?

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Jimbone

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Seeking opinions on this question.

I personally say no. As all of our sins have already been forgiven, there's no reason to ask afresh. Since God looks upon His children as never having sinned (as we have the righteousness of Jesus imputed to us) our fellowship with Him can not suffer.
I don't know how others feel, or how they walk in the Spirit, but when I, as in me personally, do something I know is wrong, and have sinned against the God that has shown me what love is, has shown me what mercy is, has taken my dead heart of stone and given me one of flesh now capable of seek Him, when I find myself in that situation I WANT to ask Him forgiveness, not because I feel condemned again or "unsaved", but because I feel ashamed and want God to know , I want to tell Him I'm sorry, and thank Him for everything. Do I believe we "have" to ask forgiveness for every sin after salvation? Technically no. I find that in my personal life I want to let God know how sorry I am, and how thankful I am for His mercy, love, and forgiveness, but I don't think that this is the same thing as asking Him to forgive me, I know I'm forgiven I just want to tell God how I feel about doing what He has told me not to do. By His power that bothers me now.
 

7seasrekeyed

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The Bible doesn't say that.

And salvation means getting saved from hellfire.
oh but it does. it really does.

what Bible do you read or study from?

maybe try to find what I said in the New Testament. You will find it because it is in there
 

7seasrekeyed

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here you go:

For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

Hebrews 10:26

not everyone who claims to be saved is actually saved



 

LW97

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oh but it does. it really does.

what Bible do you read or study from?

maybe try to find what I said in the New Testament. You will find it because it is in there
I am just saying we cannot habitually sin without chastisement.
 

LW97

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7seasrekeyed

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19Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus,20by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, 21and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water.

23Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. 24And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,

27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

30For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”31It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Hebrews 10 with the verse, regarding deliberate sin, in context
 

LW97

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19Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus,20by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, 21and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water.

23Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. 24And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,

27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

30For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”31It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Hebrews 10 with the verse, regarding deliberate sin, in context
"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins," (26)

Many people think it stands simply for losing salvation, same case as Hebrews 6:4-6. But - just like 6:4-6 - it says following thing: if you could lose it, you couldn't get it back ("...there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins").

Yeah, this isn't meaningless. You commited willfull sin, and now you have no more sacrifice for sin.

There are many views on it:
1. Simply having lost it
2. Simply having rejected the Gospel (even though the Greek says otherwise)
3. Walking in unbelief after salvation
4. Jesus died for all of your sins, there isn't another sacrifice required

But, well when it says "there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins", then it means you have not just commited what many Christians call "willfull sins", but now you did something that could not be forgiven. We know the unpadorable sin (Matthew 12:31-32, Mark 3:29) cannot be done today, the only sin that cannot be forgiven today is the one of never accepting Jesus (John 3:36).

So, well, the name of the Epistle shouldn't be meaningless. "Hebrews" - looks like it applies to the tribes of Israel after the Body of Christ is raptured. The ones who rejected Christ now have to face the troubles after the Antichrist signed the peace contract. And before you ask - yes, I am a dispensationalist.

So we can say that this person took the Mark of the Beast. And we know if a person commits this sin, he's doomed. I do not agree with John MacArthur that a person can took the mark and still be saved. OK, maybe there's a chance if you have it on your hand and amputate it. See Matthew 5:30.

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But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." (27)

Yeah - FIRE! That's hell! And what it says "judgement and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries", then it can only talk about Armaggedon when Jesus returns back on earth - and destroys his enemies - and Judgement Day takes place.

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He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:" (28)
It also applies to us, to tell us how happy we should be about Christ, because there at least is a lot of mercy.

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Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?" (29)
This is a clear warning to Israel. Their ancestors have nailed Jesus on the cross, and now Israel doesn't want to accept it in full. Sadly, I think only a few Jews are saved. Now after the Body of Christ is raptured, all eyes will be on Israel. Now it's theirs to trust on it. However, now, unlike today, some good works must be involved to - in form of not taking the Mark of the BEast.

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For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people." (30)
His people? Yes, that's Israel! And "Vengeance belongeth unto me" - a clear reference to 2nd Thessalonians 1:8. Now a person is turning his back to Jesus to follow Satan (see Verse 38). Now that Israel is gonna be judged, the Jews must forgive each other and fight together against the Antichrist. The condition today is to believe (John 3:16-18). While in the tribulation's condition it is not to take the Mark.

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It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (31)
If you have the mark, there is no question Jesus will throw you into Gehenna.







 
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The Bible doesn't say that.

And salvation means getting saved from hellfire.
John said whoever sins has never seen God or known him.

He is talking about habitual sin or a lifestyle of sin. so yes it does say that.
 

LW97

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John said whoever sins has never seen God or known him.

He is talking about habitual sin or a lifestyle of sin. so yes it does say that.
Yeah, in some way, true, but don't forget we have two natures. Another thing that is true is chastisement
 
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Yeah, in some way, true, but don't forget we have two natures. Another thing that is true is chastisement
I am just talking about what John said,

There is a difference between a child who does not walk perfectly with God and a person who claims to be a child. yet lives like the world (habitual sin)

a person who lives a life of sin has never seen God, whoever is born of God does not sin, because his seed is in him.

We can not live in sin because of chastening and because we love god. You do not continue to hurt the people you love.
 

LW97

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We can not live in sin because of chastening and because we love god. You do not continue to hurt the people you love.
That's absolutely true. god will deal with us if we we do wrong.

Still, there is no way to see for men whether somebody is truly saved or not.
 

LW97

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Also, the sad truth is: not all children do automatically react to chastisement. It's possible to lose your love towards God.
 

Nehemiah6

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Modern grace thinking wants to do away with the issue of sin altogether. Some maintains that the awareness of sin is bad. The most extreme form considers acknowledging sin to be a sin itself. But how can we grow in godliness if we're doing things that are contrary to godliness? The best way to not deal with a problem is to deny that the problem even exists.
What you term "modern grace" is Hyper-Grace, which was supposedly banned from CC but continues to flourish through spiritual nonsense from Joseph Prince at al promoted by joaniemarie.

I have already posted the Scripture addressed to Christians about what God has to say regarding their present sins. People can either take heed to the Word of God, or continue in their vain imaginations.
 

LW97

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What you term "modern grace" is Hyper-Grace, which was supposedly banned from CC but continues to flourish through spiritual nonsense from Joseph Prince at al promoted by joaniemarie.

I have already posted the Scripture addressed to Christians about what God has to say regarding their present sins. People can either take heed to the Word of God, or continue in their vain imaginations.
Yeah, Hyper Grace is a big deception. But there is a vast difference between hyper grace and free grace. Bob Wilkin adressed this in his article on Prince:
https://faithalone.org/grace-in-focus-articles/is-joseph-prince-free-grace/
 

oldethennew

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IF they are really 'christians', 'called, chosen', then of course The Holy Spirit will continually 'convict' them',
and they will grow stronger and stronger in their God given journey...
 

LW97

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IF they are really 'christians', 'called, chosen', then of course The Holy Spirit will continually 'convict' them',
and they will grow stronger and stronger in their God given journey...
[FONT=&quot]"And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they believe not on me;" (John 16:8-9)
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UnderGrace

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Not true.

Please quote a teacher from the Free Grace/Grace Alone belief that states sin is not an issue?

Being aware of sin and saying sin is not an issue are two very separate ideas.



I think the real question is must Christians acknowledge what sins they are aware of having done, and acknowledge their general lack of godliness. If folks think not, then it makes me wonder if they are really interested in hearing what the holy spirit tells them. Do you think that GOD, who wants us to grow in righteousness and holiness, is not going to tell us when we are doing things that aren't righteous and holy?

Modern grace thinking wants to do away with the issue of sin altogether. Some maintains that the awareness of sin is bad. The most extreme form considers acknowledging sin to be a sin itself. But how can we grow in godliness if we're doing things that are contrary to godliness? The best way to not deal with a problem is to deny that the problem even exists.
 
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LW97

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Not true.

Please quote a teacher from the Free Grace/Grace Alone belief that states sin is not an issue?

Being aware of sin and saying sin is not an issue are two very separate ideas.
AMEN! That's the truth