New Age Bible Versions: G.A. Riplinger--"divinely inspired" KJV-onlyist and occultist

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New Age Bible Versions: G.A. Riplinger--"divinely inspired" KJV-onlyist and occultist

New Age Bible Versions: G.A. Riplinger--"divinely inspired" KJV-onlyist and occultist

Partial Bibliography, ordered from least to most dangerous to Christians:

New Age Bible Versions: An Exhaustive Documentation of the Message, Men & Manuscripts Moving Mankind to the Antichrist's One World Religion, G. A. Riplinger (1993) -> New Age Bible Versions: An Exhaustive Documentation of the Message, Men & Manuscripts Moving Mankind to the Antichrist's One World Religion: G. A. Riplinger: 9780963584502: Amazon.com: Books

"...objectively and methodically documents the hidden alliance between new versions and the New Age Movement's One World Religion. ... Documented are the thousands of words, verses, and doctrines by which new versions will prepare the apostate churches of these last days to accept the religion of the Antichrist - even his mark, image, and Lucifer worship."

Claim to divine inspiration when writing New Age Bible Versions:

Bible Versions <- In a newsletter, Riplinger effectively claims divine inspiration for her own book . (4)
"Daily, during the six years needed for this investigation, the Lord miraculously brought the needed materials and resources – much like the ravens fed Elijah. Each discovery was not the result of effort on my part, but of the direct hand of God – so much so that I hesitated to even put my name on the book. Consequently, I used G. A. Riplinger - God as author and Riplinger as secretary."

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Hazardous Materials: Greek and Hebrew Study Dangers by G. A. Riplinger (2008) -> Hazardous Materials: Greek and Hebrew Study Dangers: G.A. Riplinger: 9780979411762: Amazon.com: Books

"Exposed are: Strong's Concordance Lexicons; Bible Dictionaries by Vine, Zodhiates; Word Studies by Vincent, Wuest, Trench; Hebrew-English Dictionaries by Brown, Driver, and Briggs; Greek-English Dictionaries by Moulton, Thayer, Danker, Liddell; Greek and Hebrew texts by Metzger, Aland, Scrivener, Berry, Ginsburg, Green, Robinson, Hodges; And all Greek and Hebrew Study Tools and Interlinears

Proves the purity of the King James Bible

You will learn such things as the connection between new version editor and child molester C.J. Vaughan and tools such as Strong s Concordance, Vine s Expository Dictionary, the Unitarian J.H. Thayer s Greek-English Lexicon, Moulton s Lexicon and Vincent and Wuest s Word Studies. Heresy trials deposed editors of the popular Hebrew-English Lexicon by Brown, Driver, and Briggs and the New Testament Greek-English Lexicon by Frederick Danker. All Greek-English New Testament lexicons plagiarize the first Greek-English lexicon written by Scott and Liddell, who harbored the pedophile author of Alice in Wonderland, who took improper photographs of Liddell s child and remains a suspect in the Jack the Ripper murder case. The book demonstrates that Greek texts from UBS to TBS fail to reach the perfection of the Holy Bible, where God s words shall not pass away. Why are good Christians putting aside their inspired Bibles to look for light in conflicting and ununinspired Greek & Hebrew tools, made by men who denied its truths?"

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In Awe of Thy Word: Understanding the King James Bible Its Mystery and History Letter by Letter by G. A. Riplinger (2004) -> In Awe of Thy Word: Understanding the King James Bible Its Mystery and History Letter by Letter: G. A. Riplinger: 9780963584526: Amazon.com: Books

"DISCOVER what translators and past generations knew --- exactly how to find the meaning of each Bible word, inside the Bible itself. THIS BOOK is the first and only documented history of the words of the Holy Bible.

Understand also what translators, such as Erasmus and Coverdale, meant when they spoke of the vernacular Bible's "holy letters" and "syllables."

See how these God-set alphabet building blocks build a word's meaning and automatically define words for faithful readers of the King James Bible --- which alone brings forward the fountainhead of letter meanings discovered by computational linguists from the world's leading universities.

Find out how only the King James Bible teaches and comforts through its "miraculous" mathematically ordered sounds.

It is based on word-for-word and letter-by-letter analysis of a vault of ancient, rare and valuable Bibles."

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About Gail Riplinger's New Age Bible Versions

In Awe of Thy Word WARNING

Mrs. Riplinger warned her readers to limit their studies to science and avoid New Age information. Specific information about how to discern between the occult and science was not included in her seemingly casual warning--other than to communicate that esoterics see letters in gods that are not there and that they ascribe nonsense meanings to letters:

(The internet can be a real "web." Be careful to limit your study to that of verifiable science; avoid mystical New Age information that counterfeits the truth of God (e.g. Kabbalah). They "changed the truth of God into a lie" and even worship God's creation (Rom. 1:25); esoterics have their own nonsense meanings ascribed to letters; these should be avoided. But just because New Age vegans worship 'mother earth' is no reason to quit eating vegetables. Likewise, just because esoterics see in letters 'gods' that are not there, this should not deter true scriptural and scholarly investigation into the word of God.)
(In Awe of Thy Word, page 1116)

Note: Meanings that satanists and witches ascribe to letters--and then put into practice to invoke "gods" (devils) to send on assignment-- are not nonsense. Curses are far from harmless--especially when directed toward those who "give place" to the devil by (knowingly or unknowingly) venturing into their territory.

The practice and methodology of ascertaining letter and sound meanings stems directly from the occult.

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SHOCK & AWE IN THE KJV-ONLY CAMP

In her 2003 book, In Awe of Thy Word: Understanding the King James Bible: Its Mystery & History Letter by Letter, Gail Riplinger warned Christians against the use of all Greek and Hebrew lexicons and concordances, as well as Greek-English and Hebrew-English interlinear translations, as aids to understanding the Bible. Her reason for placing these resources on the KJV-Only “Index of Forbidden Books”? In the course of their research, the Hebrew and Greek scholars who authored them consulted books authored by unsaved liberals:

“What about the Greek and Hebrew interlinears and study aids compiled by Christian men?

“These men may have inspired Greek and Hebrew words, but the English reference books they use to translate them into so-called ‘literal,’ ‘plain,’ ‘everyday’ English, are anything but inspired. Since ancient Koine Greek is not the mother tongue of any living person, they must use the books with the ‘corrupt words’ of unsaved liberal lexicon writers to create their interlinears and study aids (Dan. 2:9). Since they are forced to use the very reference books used by the new version translators, their so-called English equivalencies or definitions are identical to those in the new versions and are in error.” (In Awe of Thy Word, p. 518)

In place of using the traditional Hebrew and Greek resources to better comprehend the meanings of the words God used in Scripture, Gail Riplinger recommended that KJV readers “gather insights about the subject from linguists who have already explored this vast and new scientific field of letter meanings.” The meaning of God’s letters, stated Gail, must be given their proper place, even priority, in determining the meaning of God’s words:

“God built the Bible, letter by letter. He gave each sound a sense. The meanings of each letter can be found in the Bible, in the book of Genesis... Just as God created the basic chemical elements to use a building blocks to create different things, he also created letters, with significations that they carry to create word meanings. An appendix at the end of this book details some of the central meanings of each letter.” (Awe, p. 16)

In place of Greek and Hebrew resources to help Christians determine accurate word meanings, Gail Riplinger recommended worldly books from liberal, humanistic and atheistic universities to aid them in determining letter meanings. Computer technology and English dictionaries are recommended to replace interlinear translations, lexicons and concordances as resources for Bible study.

appear instantly online when a KJV word is searched.” (In Awe of Thy Word, p. 64)
“LITERATURE CITED… Only books having an asterisk (*) are recommended for further study on this subject…”
Gods of the Word: Archetypes in the Consonants, Thomas Jefferson University Press, (*great linguistics, non-Christian world view)
Mysteries of the Alphabet, Marc-Alain Ouaknin, University of Bar-Han, Israel* (In Awe of Thy Word, pp. 1179-83)

IThe reader may be wondering who on earth interprets the Bible by deciphering its letter meanings. This arcane subject is the obsession of Jewish Kabbalists who seek “union with the Divine” using a complex system of mystical agnosticism and magical practices taught by rabbinic sages.

“Kabbalism...includes...a group of divinatory and magical practices, manipulations of the alphabet and the text of the Pentateuch, magic spells and rites. All of these elements go back to very early days—to the beginnings of Israel in Palestine, and it is these beginnings which shed most light on both scholarly Kabbalism and popular Hasidism, and, in addition, go far to illuminate the real, the abiding spiritual meaning of Judaism in all times and places.” (Introduction, The Holy Kabbalah, 2003, p. ix)

How do Gail Riplinger’s readers know that the unsaved linguists she recommended in her book are not Kabbalists? They don’t, since Gail has withheld vital information about the pagan beliefs and hidden agenda of her sources. For example, one book “recommended for further study on this subject” of letter meanings is Mysteries of the Alphabet by Marc-Alain Ouaknin, who is a Kabbalist. (see above) Rabbi Ouaknin is also cited as an authority on the letter meanings of the Tetragrammaton, the four lettered name of God (YHWH), with no disclaimer or caveat but simply introduced as “Professor Marc-Alain Ouaknin of the Center for Research and Jewish Studies in Paris and a professor at the University of Bar-Han in Israel.” Rabbi Ouaknin’s other works include Mysteries of the Kabbalah, an introduction to the Kabbalah in which Rabbi Ouaknin expressed the foundational Kabbalistic principle that God is the “Text” of the Torah.

“For Christians, the infinite deity also becomes finite through the body of Christ. For kabbalists, the incarnation is produced in the body of the Text. This statement indicates the importance of reading and study in Judaism. It has been said, ‘God is the text.’ This means that the most radical manifestation of divinity is through the text, the Book, and the letters of the alphabet.” (Ouaknin, Mysteries of the Kabbalah, pp. 381-2)

In other words, Kabbalists such as Rabbi Ouaknin believe that God “incarnated,” not as a man, Jesus Christ, but in the “letters” of the Old Testament! Moreover, says Rabbi Ouaknin, since this ‘Text-God’ is infinite (Ein-Sof), it is the work of Kabbalists and Talmudists to interpret the letters and text of Scripture so that God’s words have an infinite number of meanings:

“The ‘Text-God’ must be accorded its status of infinity; in other words, every means must be used to give it an infinite meaning. These means consist of all the rules of interpretation...especially gematria, tseruf [combining letters], and so on. The need to interpret the text as the liberation of the divine is one of the fundamental meanings of all the work of kabbalists and Talmudists... The Talmud...is a means of interpreting the text in such a way that the words it contains...can be interpreted in a plurality of ways.

“And it is this plurality which becomes freedom—of God and men!” (Mysteries of the Kabbalah, pp. 381-2)

Why would Gail Riplinger recommend the work of a Kabbalist for further study of the subject of letter meanings? Perhaps for the same reason she falsely attributed to Erasmus the Kabbalistic statement, “God is in every syllable.” (see above) The fact is that Gail Riplinger is teaching the same Kabbalistic approach to the interpretation of Scripture as Rabbi Ouaknin and other Kabbalists whose publications and ideas she promotes in her book, In Awe of Thy Word.

Gail Riplinger’s readers need to know where her unconventional approach to interpreting God’s Word will ultimately lead. According to The Zohar, the central book of Kabbalah, the letters of the Hebrew alphabet function as channels to “the Light,” which is the esoteric term for Lucifer, and the spiritual enlightenment which he offers:

The Language of The Zohar
“...the individual letters of The Zohar have special significance. In our everyday lives, we’re used to thinking of the letters of the English alphabet in purely functional terms... The letters of the Hebrew alphabet (used for both Aramaic and Hebrew) should be understood in an entirely different way. In addition to their functional importance as components of words, each Aramaic letter is also a channel to a unique form of spiritual energy.... The Aramaic alphabet is a gift of the Creator, just as The Zohar itself is a gift... Scanning the letters—just letting your eyes pass over them—opens an unlimited channel to the Light.” (The Kabbalah Centre International)

“GODS” IN THE WORDS

In Awe of Thy Word is, in essence, a primer on Kabbalah, that is, discovering the hidden meanings in the spiritually energized letters in the King James Bible. An Appendix titled “The KJV’s ABCs” is a dictionary of the 26 letters of the English alphabet and the “hidden meanings” which Gail has fathomed in each letter. To aid the reader in exploring even deeper meanings in each letter and thereby determine the meaning of the words in the KJV, Gail recommends reading the works of “computational linguists” whose “letter meanings... are shown to agree 100% with meanings ascribed to letters in Genesis.” (Awe, p. 1115) One “computational linguist” highly recommended by Gail is Margaret Magnus, another Kabbalist.

Magnus’ book, Gods of the Word: Archetypes in the Consonants, is also recommended for further study of letter meanings:

“LITERATURE CITED. The books cited here are those from which direct quotations have been noted. They represent only a tiny portion of those used in researching this book. Only books having an asterisk (*) are recommended for further study on this subject...
“Magnus, M. Gods of the Word: Archetypes in the Consonants, Kirksville, Missouri: Thomas Jefferson University Press, 1999.
(*great linguistics; non-Christian world view).” (Awe, pp. 1179, 1181)

“Non-Christian world view” hardly prepares the reader for the esoteric content of Magnus’ book whose Kabbalistic thesis is that: (1) letters and their sounds in combination are subterranean “Gods of the Word,” (2) the “Archetypes in the Consonants” are “sound gods” or living spirits which actually reside in the consonants of the English alphabet, and (3) the English language is the playground of this collection of sound gods who interact with each other and influence human affairs:

“These sounds do have the look and feel of a pack of Tarot cards. They are large and archetypal in nature. As you spend time with a sound, you see it rise from the dust and live, no less than you or I. It takes on the proportions of a god and moves with a will and destiny of its own. Yet it remains always rooted in its essence, guided by a coherency and logic wider than itself. It lives together in discord or in peace with its neighbors and they fight out their battles and engage in their love affairs within our English words. One suddenly envisions language as the playground of the sound gods... [quotes Carl Jung]...I, too, am a true believer in the autonomy of the archetype. A /t/ or an /h/ is no less than a Zeus. The consonants are not essentially physical, but they live, evolve, and influence human affairs. We overlook something if we deny that they can get up and walk around.” (Gods of the Word: Archetypes in the Consonants, pp. 65-6)
 
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Portions of Margaret Magnus’ book are published on her website: Margaret Magnus -- A Dictionary of English Sound, named in honor of Hermes Trismegistos, aka the Egyptian god, Thoth, who communicated to the postdiluvian Grail kings the secret doctrine which the pre-flood civilization had received from fallen angels. Margo's Magical Letter Page explains the meanings of two “Archetypes,” the “S” and the “G,” which letters she maintains are inhabited and informed by the “serpent” and the “Grail” respectively:

“About 300 hours into this research, you start losing your mind. You start imagining you discern archetypes in all those consonants and vowels. (Ho, ho!) For your confoundment and entertainment, I now proffer some data on the serpent in /s/ and the Grail in /g/.

“In truth, I believe data of this type to be incredibly important. What it says essentially is that the consonants and vowels do in fact have a meaning. The most fundamental aspect of that meaning is pure sound without any interpretation or symbolism. That pure sound is meaningful (and how!). But one step above that most fundamental and pure sound-meaning is the archetypal meaning. Since the consonants and vowels form the foundation of the word - not only of its sound, but also of its meaning, then we literally talk in terms of archetypes. Every word is a sound - a shruti note - on which are superimposed a collection of gods whose interaction forms the basis of the word.
“And so, friends, I bid you observe how the mighty serpent abides in English S and informs every word that contains it...” (“Margo's Magical Letter Page”)

Magnus then proceeds to show how the “mighty serpent” abides in the English “S” and how the “Grail” inhabits the letter “G”, as well as every word that begins with or contains these letters. Gail Riplinger endorses Magnus’ theory that “‘S’ is the serpent” as sound linguistics. The ‘S’ section of Gail’s “KJV’s ABCs” is suggestive that Satan is the Spirit who created the world:

“The letter ‘S’ is as mysterious, as the other letters are simple, at least to the author. ‘S’ definitely has a non-material sense about it, which is verified by its first use as ‘Spirit’ in Genesis 1...
“With God’s Spirit in control in Genesis 1 and 2, ‘s’ is ‘so’ ‘star-spangled’ and sensational. When the ‘subtil’ ‘serpent’ shows up in Genesis 3, so does ‘sin,’ ‘sweat,’ ‘sorrow’ and the ‘sword.’...
“The letter ‘S’ slides in ‘serpent,’ ‘subtle,’...
“The opposing spirit is evident in words such as ‘Satan’ and ‘serpent.’ Magnus is quick to tell her readers that, ‘About 25% of /s/ words in the dictionary are related to the serpent’ (p. 57). Her website takes it so far as to conclude, ‘S’ is the serpent. The warning, ‘watch out for the s,’ is based on sound linguistic theory...
“The ‘’ spirit takes a loose, extending (│) downhill course in ‘sl’ words, such as ‘slide’...
“The first usage of S – ‘And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters’ (Gen. 1:2) – lends emphasis to its sense of north to south movement. It has a linear movement from ‘here to there,’ like the ‘t,’ but its curvy, north-to-south (Ps. 75:6; Isa. 14:13), heaven to earth shape give it a ‘more subtil’ sense...
“The ‘serpent’ moves and slithers in his S-shaped path...
“In conclusion, I must admit that the letter ‘s’ defies a concrete definition... Perhaps it is because the ‘spirit’ is not concrete...” (Awe, pp. 1144-45)

Gail has just made the following correlation in her readers minds: “‘S ’ slides in ‘serpent,’ ‘subtle,’” the ‘’ spirit ‘slides’ downward and S is the “Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters...in a north to south movement” having a “more subtil” sense – the derogatory description of the serpent in Genesis 3:1. (“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.”) These associations suggest ever so subtly that the Creator of the world is Satan, which is a major tenet of Gnostic dualism (See: “The Gnostic Gospel”)

From this example alone (there are others) we can deduce that it is perilous to interpret God’s Word by looking for “hidden meanings” in the letters of the KJV or consulting sources like Margaret Magnus’ Gods of the Word: Archetypes in the Consonants. To determine the meaning of a word in the Bible, it’s really much safer to consult Hebrew and Greek lexicons, which are dictionaries that define the words of Scripture as they were used in the original languages along with important grammatical information needed for translation.

In the place of Greek and Hebrew lexicons, however, Gail urges her readers to determine the meaning of each word in the King James Bible from the shapes and sounds of its letters:

“This chapter shows how word definitions are created and retrieved automatically by the brain, while simply reading faithfully the sounds of the King James Bible. Explore in the KJV what Harvard’s Literary Guide to the Bible tells readers about the Bible’s ‘sound-meaning interactions.’ In the 1500s Erasmus said, ‘God is in every syllable.’” (Awe, p. 16)
 
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Thanks for posting this. I listen to james white , and he was saying how GAIL riplinger quoted people out of context and just plain lied.
 
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There will always be fanatics in the church, we must love them.
God did not send her to rip the bibles up.
Every Bible has weaknesses but God's spirit will lead you to them.

IT can easily be proved from the catholic duoy Bible that the antichrist is that church
leader
it can easily be proved from Jehovahs witnesses they actually are keeping the wrong day
you can prove nothing from book of mormon
same with quran
but you can prove easily that you do not need to know hevbrew to be saved from the YAHWEH peoples Bible
so
each Bible has shortcomings but God can save with all if you have an eager and willing heart
after all
it is Jesus the word who saves,
the added words have no power.
the words that are correct have all power in heaven and in earth
the removed words will be seen in other translations eventually
so ignore these topics that mean nothing and lets get back to knowing Jesus our savior.
 
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Thanks for posting this. I listen to james white , and he was saying how GAIL riplinger quoted people out of context and just plain lied.
God bless you brother Jason. I'll take this is as a sign to continue exposing this teacher--I have more--including a few examples quoting people of out context.

I think it's no coincidence that I received this message 19 hours ago:
:rolleyes:

And stop spreading James White's lies on this website.
 
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The Problem with New Age Bible Versions


MISQUOTING AND POOR DOCUMENTATION

New Age Bible Versions is extensively documented, but the documentation is extremely unreliable. A great many references that I attempted to check were not accurate.

Consider a few examples:

1. On page 2 Mrs. Riplinger misquotes Edwin Palmer, editor of the NIV. It would appear from the quote that Palmer is questioning the deity of Jesus Christ. She prefaces the quote with these words:

“The NIV’s chief editor vaunts his version’s heresy saying: ... [F]ew clear and decisive texts say that Jesus is God.”

In her notes, Mrs. Riplinger cites The Making of a Contemporary Translation, p. 143.

Actually Palmer IN NO WAY is questioning the deity of Jesus Christ. In fact, in the paragraph cited, HE IS CONTENDING for Christ’s deity! The full quote which Mrs. Riplinger has pulled out of context is as follows:

“John 1:18, as inspired by the Holy Spirit, is one of those few clear and decisive texts that declare that Jesus is God. But, due to no fault of its own, the KJV, following inferior manuscripts, has altered what the Holy Spirit said through John. It calls John ‘Son’, whereas it should have called him ‘God.’”

Please understand that I am not supporting what Palmer says here. I do not believe the KJV follows inferior manuscripts. I do not believe there are only a few clear and decisive passages that declare Jesus as God (see my article “Who Says Jesus Is God” at the Way of Life web site). I don’t believe that John 1:18 should read “the only begotten God.” That is a gnostic corruption.* The man is wrong on many important points, which I have exposed in my books on the Bible version issue (see particularly the 775-page Faith vs. the Modern Bible Versions), but it is also wrong to misquote him and to have him saying something that he does not say, particularly when someone puts heresy in his mouth that he does not believe. Palmer does believe that Jesus Christ is God, and Mrs. Riplinger slanders him when she misquotes him as she does.

[* John Burgon demonstrated that the “the only begotten God” reading in John 1:18 in the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts can be traced to Valentinus (Burgon and Miller, Causes of Corruption, pp. 215, 216). “The Gnostics said that Christ was ‘the Beginning,’ the first of God’s creation, and Valentinus referred to Him as ‘the Only-begotten God’ and said that He was the entire essence of all the subsequent worlds (Aeons)” (Jay Green, The Gnostics, the New Versions, and the Deity of Christ, 1994, p. 74). In the Received Text there is no question that the Word is also the Son and that both are God. The Word is God (Jn. 1:1); the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us (Jn. 1:14); the Word is the Son (Jn. 1:18). By changing Jn. 1:18 to “the only begotten God,” Valentinus and his followers broke the clear association between the Word and the Son.]

2. On page 165 Mrs. Riplinger claims that NIV translator Herbert Wolf teaches that gain is godliness.

“Paul said that those, like Wolf, who teach that ‘gain is godliness’ are ‘destitute of the truth.’ Equating financial prosperity with spirituality is a common characteristic of the ‘New’ Christianity and the New Age.”

For evidence of this observation, Riplinger cites Wolf’s chapter in The Making of a Contemporary Translation. She quotes Wolf as saying:

“[N]on-literal translations enhance accuracy ... The word tsedeqah--normally rendered ‘righteousness’ is translated ‘prosperity’, perhaps understood as the reward of righteous living.”

In fact, Wolf is not promoting any sort of gain-is-godliness concept. Consider the full context of Wolf’s statement:

“The book of Proverbs also contains several verses where non-literal translations enhance accuracy. ... In [Proverbs] 8:18 tsedaqah is linked with riches and enduring wealth, and in 21:21 with finding life and honour. The abstract quality of ‘righteousness’ does not seem to fit either verse.”

When the entire quote is taken into consideration there is nothing to connect Mr. Wolf with New Age heresy. He is not correct in the change that he wants to make in the rendering of 1 Timothy 6:6; the King James is correct; but for Mrs. Riplinger to take this quotation and to tie it together with the promotion of New Age prosperity makes a laughing stock out of the position she is trying to defend. Further, Mrs. Riplinger, by dropping a significant portion of Wolf’s statement, makes it appear that he is supporting non-literal translations in general, whereas he is merely listing certain instances in which a non-literal translation technique can be accurate. We would not agree with everything Wolf has to say on this point, but it is wrong to put words in the man’s mouth.

3. On p. 213 Mrs. Riplinger says,

“NIV editor Larry Walker admits further that ‘ome Bible characters appear to have disappeared from the text.’ Is it any wonder since Westcott said, ‘David is not a chronological ... person.’”

This is an amazingly erroneous connection. Walker is merely speaking of different TRANSLATIONS of certain names. Walker gives the following example:

“The name Ishtob in the AV rendering of 2 Samuel 10:6,8 becomes ‘men of Tob’ in the NIV translation.”

On the other hand, Westcott is questioning the actual HISTORICITY of the names. To connect these dissimilar remarks is absurd.

4. On p. 166 Mrs. Riplinger says, “NEW VERSIONS” read “godliness actually is a means of great gain” in 1 Timothy 6:6. She uses this to support her contention that modern versions support the New Age philosophy of material prosperity.

In fact, the “New VersionS” (plural) do not support such a reading. Only one “New Version” (singular) I could find has the reading Mrs. Riplinger cites, and that is the New American Standard Version; and when read in context, the NASV is NOT saying godliness is material gain. The full verse reads, “But godliness actually is a means of great gain, when accompanied by contentment.”

5. On p. 292 Mrs. Riplinger claims that NIV editor R. Laird Harris’s view of Hell is identical to that of cults such as Armstrongism and Jehovah Witness.

To “prove” this contention, she quotes from Harris’s chapter in The Making of A Contemporary Translation and has him saying,

“This view [hell] has some problems. [It] ... refers only to death, not to ... any punishment...”

The bracketed additions inserted by Riplinger remove Harris’s remarks from their proper context. The quotation is taken from two different pages of the book cited. In the first part of the quote Harris is addressing something entirely different from what he is addressing in the last part of the quote, yet Mrs. Riplinger puts the two misjointed pieces of quotation together. In neither quotation is Harris addressing any question about the existence of an eternal, fiery Hell. Rather, in the first part of the quotation he is discussing the view of some that in the Old Testament times Sheol was divided into two compartments. Consider exactly what Harris was discussing:

“[The Bible] does present what is a difficulty to the New Testament believer: both wicked (Num. 16:3) and righteous (Gen. 38:35) go to Sheol. A view was therefore early developed that said that there were two compartments in Sheol, an upper part for the believers and a lower for the lost.”

He then says:

“This view has some problems.”

He’s right. It does have some problems! That is not to say, of course, that the view is wrong.

In the second part of the quotation Harris is discussing the condition of Shimei in 1 Kings 2:9:

“To bring Shimei’s gray hairs down to Sheol in blood (2:9) surely refers only to his death, not to the condition of his soul after death or to any punishment beyond his execution.”

My friends, no matter what we might think of Harris and his translation activities, such a statement by him DOES NOT make him a co-fellow with cultists who deny the Bible doctrine of Hell. By taking the man’s statements entirely out of context, Mrs. Riplinger has slandered him.

6. On page 448 Mrs. Riplinger says:

“Westcott's biographer cites that in 1858 ‘he was quite inaudible’ and by 1870 ‘his voice reached few and was understood by still fewer.’”

Riplinger uses this quote to support her claim that Westcott lost his voice and sees that as a judgment of God for tampering with the Bible. The fact is that Westcott did NOT lose his voice. Riplinger cites volume one of The Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott, but the quotes are misused.

The first quote is from a statement about how that Westcott, as a young student, disliked public speaking.

“He [Westcott] took his turn of preaching in Chapel, but he dreaded and disliked the duty, and he was quite inaudible to many of the boys” (The Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott, vol. 1, p. 198).

There is nothing here about Westcott losing his voice.

The second of Riplinger’s quotes is taken from a letter from a Dr. Butler, who said that Westcott, when he was 35 years old and teaching at Harrow, still had a weak public speaking voice.

“His voice was not yet a force in the chapel. It reached but few, and it was understood by still fewer” (The Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott, vol. 1, pp. 272-273).

Again, there is not a hint that Westcott lost his voice. It is a figment of Mrs. Riplinger’s fertile imagination.
 
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I did find a - Joy of Satan ministries that loved the KJV
 
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God bless you brother Jason. I'll take this is as a sign to continue exposing this teacher--I have more--including a few examples quoting people of out context.

I think it's no coincidence that I received this message 19 hours ago:
:rolleyes:
I want to thank you for exposing the deceit of this cultish group. ChosenbyHim asked me if I had ever looked into the bible version issue. At the time I had, and now I have even more. This has become something I study now in great detail. I hope to continue to learn and be able to defend modern translations and expose this cult.
 
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I want to thank you for exposing the deceit of this cultish group. ChosenbyHim asked me if I had ever looked into the bible version issue. At the time I had, and now I have even more. This has become something I study now in great detail. I hope to continue to learn and be able to defend modern translations and expose this cult.
Brother Jason thanks for your support,

There's a lot of layers to Gail Riplinger and her teachings. I've read quite a bit from various places on the internet--the most condemning evidence
by far against her teaching comes from other KJV-onlyists.

Based on the original post in this thread--occult and Kabbalah--I find it hard to believe that she is a born-again Christian. I found things like the following (written by KJV-onlyists) it was just one part of my motivation for starting this thread:

http://avpublications.org/articles/reason-for-exposing-gail-riplinger.pdf

Reason For Exposing Gail Riplinger: Why are we doing this?

She mentions her credentials on book covers and at her web site. Yet, they don’t accompany a salvation testimony. When did she meet the Lord Jesus and become born-again? Isn't this more important than all the credentials and honoraries a person might collect in life? Is not one’s relationship with the redeemer more precious than all our earthly collections and accomplishments? Why not make one’s salvation testimony as public as one’s honoraries and degrees?

Wouldn't a Christian author want her readers to know her personal Christian testimony, before anything else? More than in what college she taught classes? More than how many secular textbooks she published?

I hope we all reach a higher level of discernment from this thread. :)

What you need to pray for is discernment. Because you seem to lack a lot of it.
 
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so the kjv is satanic? that was directed to thecreation tutor :)
 
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so the kjv is satanic? that was directed to thecreation tutor :)
No, Satan takes good things and twists them
 
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I did find a - Joy of Satan ministries that loved the KJV
so the kjv is satanic? that was directed to thecreation tutor :)
No, Satan takes good things and twists them
The group known as Joy of Satan is an advanced discernment studies topic so I won't write about them at this time (or ever probably).

In either case, I'm the OP, this thread is not about the King James Bible per se--it's about one very popular KJV-onlyist teacher whose lifestyle suggests strongly that she is not a born-again Christian.
 
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Gail Riplinger, KJV-onlyism at its finest:

Titanic sinking + New International Version (NIV) = 666
:rolleyes: "... White Star Line owned the Titanic = code name for Lucifer, etc.

[video=youtube;WNyH5A_OZs8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNyH5A_OZs8[/video]