"No one is good but God alone."
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I pray for humility every day, because "Pride brings a person low, but the lowly in spirit gain honor." (Proverbs 29:23) For many of us, I think, including myself, the sin of pride is one of the toughest to resist. I'm still asking forgiveness for that several times a week.
God bless you. You are absolutely correct.
God bless you. You are absolutely correct.
Jesus was referring to His flesh,the man Christ Jesus,when He said why do you call Me good,for only God is good,and as God,Jesus is good.
The man Christ Jesus is good because God caused Him to be good by His Spirit,which there was no faltering for Jesus was always led of the Spirit.
God said that there is none that does good,no,not one,for being without God the flesh will always be in opposition to the Spirit,for the flesh and Spirit war against each other,and even if a person does a good deed,it will be for the person's benefit somewhat,and if they think I truly care about the person,which that is true to a lot of degree sometimes,the flesh will still want to think something to exalt itself in that situation.
We cannot say we are good,as if by our own effort,which would be flesh,for we are only good in the right sense and true meaning,if we are led of the Spirit.
God said there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh,so a person saying they are good without God is false,for it is not good in the true sense,like people in the world think they are loving but will always fall short of God's love defined in 1 Corinthians chapter 13.
God said all in the world is the lust of the flesh,the lust of the eyes,and the pride of life,and the whole world lies in wickedness,showing that people in the world are incapable of being good in the true sense,and their good deeds will have some kind of exaltation on their part even if slight and not noticeably big.
The good the world does falls short of the good of the Lord,like the love the world shows will fall short of the love of the Spirit,and the good and the love the world shows will have some kind of exaltation of the flesh,even if slight making the appearance of genuine goodness and love,which it is not,instead of doing good and loving,genuinely caring about the person that they prosper,and only on that motivation alone,but the flesh will get in the way of it being genuine,even if slight,for not everybody is equal in selfishness and arrogance,until the world takes the mark then it will all show as they have the nature of a devil.
Jesus said that parents can give good things to their children but they are still evil,and all our righteousness is as filthy rags,and there is none that does good,and there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh.
If the man Christ Jesus said why call Him good,who did good all the time in the true sense,it goes to show you that a person without God is incapable of being good in the true sense.They can do good deeds which actually benefit people,but the flesh will get in the way of being good in the true sense.
This is hard for the world to understand who have a care for people that exceeds a lot of people,which you can hear them say that do not really follow the Bible but believe in a God,I am a good person,and they believe it,but do not understand that it is not good in the true sense,for it is slight in some areas that the flesh exalts.
We are only good in the true sense by the Spirit.The man Christ Jesus did good because the Spirit caused Him to do good.
The man Christ Jesus is good because God caused Him to be good by His Spirit,which there was no faltering for Jesus was always led of the Spirit.
God said that there is none that does good,no,not one,for being without God the flesh will always be in opposition to the Spirit,for the flesh and Spirit war against each other,and even if a person does a good deed,it will be for the person's benefit somewhat,and if they think I truly care about the person,which that is true to a lot of degree sometimes,the flesh will still want to think something to exalt itself in that situation.
We cannot say we are good,as if by our own effort,which would be flesh,for we are only good in the right sense and true meaning,if we are led of the Spirit.
God said there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh,so a person saying they are good without God is false,for it is not good in the true sense,like people in the world think they are loving but will always fall short of God's love defined in 1 Corinthians chapter 13.
God said all in the world is the lust of the flesh,the lust of the eyes,and the pride of life,and the whole world lies in wickedness,showing that people in the world are incapable of being good in the true sense,and their good deeds will have some kind of exaltation on their part even if slight and not noticeably big.
The good the world does falls short of the good of the Lord,like the love the world shows will fall short of the love of the Spirit,and the good and the love the world shows will have some kind of exaltation of the flesh,even if slight making the appearance of genuine goodness and love,which it is not,instead of doing good and loving,genuinely caring about the person that they prosper,and only on that motivation alone,but the flesh will get in the way of it being genuine,even if slight,for not everybody is equal in selfishness and arrogance,until the world takes the mark then it will all show as they have the nature of a devil.
Jesus said that parents can give good things to their children but they are still evil,and all our righteousness is as filthy rags,and there is none that does good,and there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh.
If the man Christ Jesus said why call Him good,who did good all the time in the true sense,it goes to show you that a person without God is incapable of being good in the true sense.They can do good deeds which actually benefit people,but the flesh will get in the way of being good in the true sense.
This is hard for the world to understand who have a care for people that exceeds a lot of people,which you can hear them say that do not really follow the Bible but believe in a God,I am a good person,and they believe it,but do not understand that it is not good in the true sense,for it is slight in some areas that the flesh exalts.
We are only good in the true sense by the Spirit.The man Christ Jesus did good because the Spirit caused Him to do good.
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I pray for humility every day, because "Pride brings a person low, but the lowly in spirit gain honor." (Proverbs 29:23) For many of us, I think, including myself, the sin of pride is one of the toughest to resist. I'm still asking forgiveness for that several times a week.
God bless you. You are absolutely correct.
God bless you. You are absolutely correct.
GB
Hi
Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.” Mark 10:18
I read it as it is was said. Jesus is not God. If Jesus was part of the trinity he would not have said that.
but God alone
Only the one God by himself is good. He has excluded himself and by not mentioning the holy spirit has excluded the holy spirit as well.
Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.” Mark 10:18
I read it as it is was said. Jesus is not God. If Jesus was part of the trinity he would not have said that.
but God alone
Only the one God by himself is good. He has excluded himself and by not mentioning the holy spirit has excluded the holy spirit as well.
Jesus is God,for Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,fully God and fully man.
Jesus' answer to why do you call Me good would depend on the person on how they approached Jesus,whether they approached Jesus recognizing His deity,or whether they approached Him as a man not fully understanding His deity,which is the majority of the case,that they approached Jesus as a man that did the will of God,but did not understand His deity.
When the man called Jesus good,He approached Jesus from the viewpoint of Jesus being a man that proclaimed God to people,and did not understand His deity,and knew that Jesus went about doing good.Jesus according to Him being fully man,answered the man from the viewpoint that the man saw Jesus,as a man proclaiming God,and not understanding His deity,and said why call Me good coming from the viewpoint of the man Christ Jesus,for there is only one who is good God,which the man Christ Jesus was saying,is that He could only do good because God who is good caused Him to do good,in which Jesus in another scripture said,it is the Father in Me,He does the works.
If the man approached Jesus from the viewpoint of His deity,recognizing that Jesus is God in flesh,Jesus would of accepted Him calling Him good,in the sense that His deity is the source of goodness,but the vast majority of the people approached Jesus from the viewpoint of a man proclaiming God,but I am sure they came to the full understanding if they accepted Him and continued on.
Jesus' answer to why do you call Me good would depend on the person on how they approached Jesus,whether they approached Jesus recognizing His deity,or whether they approached Him as a man not fully understanding His deity,which is the majority of the case,that they approached Jesus as a man that did the will of God,but did not understand His deity.
When the man called Jesus good,He approached Jesus from the viewpoint of Jesus being a man that proclaimed God to people,and did not understand His deity,and knew that Jesus went about doing good.Jesus according to Him being fully man,answered the man from the viewpoint that the man saw Jesus,as a man proclaiming God,and not understanding His deity,and said why call Me good coming from the viewpoint of the man Christ Jesus,for there is only one who is good God,which the man Christ Jesus was saying,is that He could only do good because God who is good caused Him to do good,in which Jesus in another scripture said,it is the Father in Me,He does the works.
If the man approached Jesus from the viewpoint of His deity,recognizing that Jesus is God in flesh,Jesus would of accepted Him calling Him good,in the sense that His deity is the source of goodness,but the vast majority of the people approached Jesus from the viewpoint of a man proclaiming God,but I am sure they came to the full understanding if they accepted Him and continued on.
G
Jesus is the perfect role model. He was presented with the same needs and temptations as every living man and women. When I look at Jesus and know that God made us in his image. That not only do we have the potential to be like Jesus, but that it is His desire for us to be like him. I think our greatest fullfilment will come from serving His purpose.
The thing is we can do good deeds that benefit people,but the flesh will get in the way of it being good in the true sense,for the flesh will exalt itself,if even slight.
God said there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh,for the flesh is motivated by selfishness and arrogance,and the Spirit and flesh are contrary to each other.
The thing is people in the world can do good deeds that benefit people,but the flesh will exalt itself,even if slight.
The thing is people in the world can do good deeds that benefit people,but they are still evil for they are not good all the time.
29Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions(Ecclesiastes 7:29).
39Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions(Psalm 106:39).
God did make Adam and Eve good,but they did bad.
God did make man to do right but they went about doing bad.
People in the world can do good deeds,but they still do wrong.
I wasn't saying people cannot do good deeds,but was pointing out that the man Christ Jesus could not do good unless God caused Him to do good,which this goodness is talking about goodness all the time with no evil deeds.
The man Christ Jesus is saying He did good because God caused Him to do good,but this goodness is goodness all the time,where the world can do good deeds,but they still do wrong.
God said there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh,for the flesh is motivated by selfishness and arrogance,and the Spirit and flesh are contrary to each other.
The thing is people in the world can do good deeds that benefit people,but the flesh will exalt itself,even if slight.
The thing is people in the world can do good deeds that benefit people,but they are still evil for they are not good all the time.
29Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions(Ecclesiastes 7:29).
39Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions(Psalm 106:39).
God did make Adam and Eve good,but they did bad.
God did make man to do right but they went about doing bad.
People in the world can do good deeds,but they still do wrong.
I wasn't saying people cannot do good deeds,but was pointing out that the man Christ Jesus could not do good unless God caused Him to do good,which this goodness is talking about goodness all the time with no evil deeds.
The man Christ Jesus is saying He did good because God caused Him to do good,but this goodness is goodness all the time,where the world can do good deeds,but they still do wrong.
C
hi guys,
I think this was more likely an issue of Jesus rebuking flattery. I don't think Jesus had a problem with recognizing the good in others or himself (denying your goodness when you really are good isn't humility), but this guy followed his comment with a question about what he must do to have eternal life and then listed all his best qualities.
That is how flattery usually works. We do it, not as a genuine compliment, but because we want others to think better of us. I think the guy wanted an obviously popular prophet to think well of him and his accomplishments.
Otherwise, if he really believed Jesus was good, then he would not have turned his back when Jesus told him that he had to sell everything he had and to follow him to have eternal life.
I think this was more likely an issue of Jesus rebuking flattery. I don't think Jesus had a problem with recognizing the good in others or himself (denying your goodness when you really are good isn't humility), but this guy followed his comment with a question about what he must do to have eternal life and then listed all his best qualities.
That is how flattery usually works. We do it, not as a genuine compliment, but because we want others to think better of us. I think the guy wanted an obviously popular prophet to think well of him and his accomplishments.
Otherwise, if he really believed Jesus was good, then he would not have turned his back when Jesus told him that he had to sell everything he had and to follow him to have eternal life.
Well for my two cents on this subject.
The fulness of the Godhead bodily rests in Christ.
And God was pleased to have all his fulness dwell in Christ
And Christ has the very nature of the Father.
And I would imagine that any Christian who does not believe Christ is God Himself would asgree with the above scriptures
But do statements like these mean we have to say Christ is God Himself?
To most it obviously does, to me it doesn't
I see Christ as the only begotten Son of the one true God, and with the Father from the begining.
I think it is sad when words like heretic start flying around for people of opposing views on this. I know God will reject no-one who simply believes His Son is who he so often claimed to be in the Gospels and the Apostles mainly refered tro him as.
I know in my mind that oneness folk, trinitarians and those who simply see Christ as the eternally begotten son will all go to Heaven. It may not be enough for man's theology, but God sees the heart. That is what will determine Heaven for us all
The fulness of the Godhead bodily rests in Christ.
And God was pleased to have all his fulness dwell in Christ
And Christ has the very nature of the Father.
And I would imagine that any Christian who does not believe Christ is God Himself would asgree with the above scriptures
But do statements like these mean we have to say Christ is God Himself?
To most it obviously does, to me it doesn't
I see Christ as the only begotten Son of the one true God, and with the Father from the begining.
I think it is sad when words like heretic start flying around for people of opposing views on this. I know God will reject no-one who simply believes His Son is who he so often claimed to be in the Gospels and the Apostles mainly refered tro him as.
I know in my mind that oneness folk, trinitarians and those who simply see Christ as the eternally begotten son will all go to Heaven. It may not be enough for man's theology, but God sees the heart. That is what will determine Heaven for us all
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ehh, I don't see anywhere in scripture where Jesus commands that people must believe he is God.
For me, the real sticking point here comes when people are faced with the commands of Jesus. No, not the ten commandments of the old testament but the commands of Jesus spread throughout the gospels.
I found this list of commands of Jesus from a Christian website. If you find yourself stumbling over any of these (and trust me there are some gnarly commands here), it may be time to set aside questions about trinity or whatever and ask yourself why you are having troubles with it...
1. Obey my commandments - John 14:15 , John 14:21 , John 14:23 ; 2 John 6
2. Love God and others - John 15:12 , Matthew 22:37-40
3. Go and preach to all the world - Mark 16:15 , Matthew 28:19
4. Don't delay, do it now - John 4:35 , John 9:4 , John 12:35
5. Take nothing for your journey - Luke 9:3 , Luke 10:4
6. Don't work for food - John 6:27 , Matthew 6:24-33 , Luke 12:29
7. Work for me & my kingdom - Matthew 11:28-30 , Luke 12:31
8. Sell all that you own - Luke 11:41 , Luke 12:33 , Luke 18:22
9. Don't store things that you're not using - Matthew 6:19
10. Don't charge for what you do - Matthew 10:8
11. Give to God what belongs to God - Luke 20:25 , Matthew 22:21
12. Don't waste time on argumentative people - Matthew 7:6
13. Invite the poor to eat with you - Luke 14:12-14
14. Give to anyone who asks - Luke 6:30 , Mark 6:37
15. If you pray, fast, or give, do it secretly - Matthew 6:1-11
16. Don't use vain repetitions when praying - Matthew 6:7
17. Don't advertise healings - Matthew 9:30 , Matthew 12:16
18. Take the lowest position in meetings - Luke 14:8-10
19. Don't be called Father, Mister, etc. - Matthew 23:9-10
20. Beware of hypocrisy and greed - Luke 12:1 , 15
21. Take up your cross and follow me - Mark 8:34
22. Live in me, and live in my love - John 15:4 , 9
23. Eat whatever people give you - Luke 10:7
24. Rejoice when you are persecuted - Luke 6:23
25. Move to another city if persecuted - Matthew 10:23
26. Love, bless, and pray for your enemies - Luke 6:27-29
27. Do to others as you'd have them do to you - Luke 6:31
28. Be agreeable with your adversaries - Luke 12:58 , Matthew 5:25
29. Forgive others - Mark 11:25-26 , Matthew 6:12 , Luke 6:37
30. Cut off your hand if it offends you - Mark 9:43
31. Don't be afraid of people - Luke 12:4-5
32. Let the dead bury the dead - Matthew 8:22
33. Rebuke a brother if he sins - Luke 17:3 , Matthew 18:15-17
34. When you judge, do it fairly - John 7:24
35. You must be born again- John 3:3 , Luke 18:17 , Mark 10:15
36. Don't make promises for any reason - Matthew 5:34-37
37. Don't sell things in God's house - John 2:16
38. Don't forbid others to preach Christ - Luke 9:50
39. Teach all nations to obey these rules - Matthew 28:20
40. When you have done all these things, say, "We have only done that which was our duty to do." - Luke 17:10
For me, the real sticking point here comes when people are faced with the commands of Jesus. No, not the ten commandments of the old testament but the commands of Jesus spread throughout the gospels.
I found this list of commands of Jesus from a Christian website. If you find yourself stumbling over any of these (and trust me there are some gnarly commands here), it may be time to set aside questions about trinity or whatever and ask yourself why you are having troubles with it...
1. Obey my commandments - John 14:15 , John 14:21 , John 14:23 ; 2 John 6
2. Love God and others - John 15:12 , Matthew 22:37-40
3. Go and preach to all the world - Mark 16:15 , Matthew 28:19
4. Don't delay, do it now - John 4:35 , John 9:4 , John 12:35
5. Take nothing for your journey - Luke 9:3 , Luke 10:4
6. Don't work for food - John 6:27 , Matthew 6:24-33 , Luke 12:29
7. Work for me & my kingdom - Matthew 11:28-30 , Luke 12:31
8. Sell all that you own - Luke 11:41 , Luke 12:33 , Luke 18:22
9. Don't store things that you're not using - Matthew 6:19
10. Don't charge for what you do - Matthew 10:8
11. Give to God what belongs to God - Luke 20:25 , Matthew 22:21
12. Don't waste time on argumentative people - Matthew 7:6
13. Invite the poor to eat with you - Luke 14:12-14
14. Give to anyone who asks - Luke 6:30 , Mark 6:37
15. If you pray, fast, or give, do it secretly - Matthew 6:1-11
16. Don't use vain repetitions when praying - Matthew 6:7
17. Don't advertise healings - Matthew 9:30 , Matthew 12:16
18. Take the lowest position in meetings - Luke 14:8-10
19. Don't be called Father, Mister, etc. - Matthew 23:9-10
20. Beware of hypocrisy and greed - Luke 12:1 , 15
21. Take up your cross and follow me - Mark 8:34
22. Live in me, and live in my love - John 15:4 , 9
23. Eat whatever people give you - Luke 10:7
24. Rejoice when you are persecuted - Luke 6:23
25. Move to another city if persecuted - Matthew 10:23
26. Love, bless, and pray for your enemies - Luke 6:27-29
27. Do to others as you'd have them do to you - Luke 6:31
28. Be agreeable with your adversaries - Luke 12:58 , Matthew 5:25
29. Forgive others - Mark 11:25-26 , Matthew 6:12 , Luke 6:37
30. Cut off your hand if it offends you - Mark 9:43
31. Don't be afraid of people - Luke 12:4-5
32. Let the dead bury the dead - Matthew 8:22
33. Rebuke a brother if he sins - Luke 17:3 , Matthew 18:15-17
34. When you judge, do it fairly - John 7:24
35. You must be born again- John 3:3 , Luke 18:17 , Mark 10:15
36. Don't make promises for any reason - Matthew 5:34-37
37. Don't sell things in God's house - John 2:16
38. Don't forbid others to preach Christ - Luke 9:50
39. Teach all nations to obey these rules - Matthew 28:20
40. When you have done all these things, say, "We have only done that which was our duty to do." - Luke 17:10
Absolutely!
Thank you for stating that truth.
I like the theollogy in your above statement. I'm not sure that Christ is telling us literally to cut our hand off or to gouge out the eye that looks lustfully, but it is far more important to look to his commands and follow him than be consumed by thoughts on the trinity, I wholeheartedly agree
Thank you for stating that truth.
I like the theollogy in your above statement. I'm not sure that Christ is telling us literally to cut our hand off or to gouge out the eye that looks lustfully, but it is far more important to look to his commands and follow him than be consumed by thoughts on the trinity, I wholeheartedly agree
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