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My response about satan was not concerning mac..lol

it concerned WHY God shows us his true love

I do not see any of macs posts. so this may be confusing you, you may be respondint to mac and I think you are making just a general statment, so I misunderstand you
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Rosemaryx

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You would have to actually sit and actually study all the mac says. I ignored him along time ago because I was sick of how he reacts to people and his continued accusation which are unfounded.
But he is not preaching the Gospel ?...xox...
I need to understand why people are putting him on ignore , what is the problem ?...xox...
 
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But he is not preaching the Gospel ?...xox...
I need to understand why people are putting him on ignore , what is the problem ?...xox...
I get argumentative and tend to go on and on when I feel I am misrepresented or insulted. A fault of mine. I’m being sincere, not sarcastic
 

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I get argumentative and tend to go on and on when I feel I am misrepresented. A fault of mine. I’m being sincere, not sarcastic
You do remind me of a pitbull , I owned a pitbull , it would never let go , can I give a LOL...xox...
 
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That is what I am asking , no one sees God ever face to face , only through Jesus...xox...
We will see God’s face in heaven. We cannot see it now, Gods face in His pure essence, because it would kill us. But my when Christ transforms our bodies to be like His Glorious body, we will see Him

Not that God is corporal. He is a Spirit. But the Bible seems to say He has a visible form, though invisible to us.

I could be wrong on this, but that is what the Bible appears to teach
 

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I mean @blue- , gosh your name is hard to tag , that ONLY through Christ we see God , but can anyone see God face to face...xox...

I don't get notified when someone tags me.. lol

Anyhoo, I don't know why we wouldn't be able to in heaven, when on earth He was a physical, visible person that all could see..
 

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That’s what I’d like to know...
Hi mate.

I hope I can explain myself correctly.

I think the issue started when you first joined this thread.
You did come across as a fruit inspector and as a result works salvation person.
I sense that you are a sensitive person.
The reason being is that when you felt you were personally attacked you reacted as most do when they feel they are.

I understand that and I must say that some of words used against you I would have taken it that way as well.

If memory serves me I did try to put out that we need to understand the people we respond to before we respond. Make accommodation as such.

So you had a tendency when responding to posts to people to use it as an opportunity to expose/attack those who you thought attacked you personally.

After all I think you do not have an issue with disagreement concerning some doctrinal issues.

I'm really glad that @Rosemaryx posted what she did earlier on.

Over the last few days after the warning given by the mods I have seen a change in the way you are posting.

You are now trying to engage with those that you feel attacked you personally.
I was umming and arring whether to say something to those who have an issue with you and those who you have an issue with.

Do I step in and say take you of ignore and talk and discuss or leave it alone.

The thing is the people who you are now seeking have you on ignore so they do not see this.

I respect the moves you have made.

I'm not posting as a perfect person who gets it right all the time.
Also know that I am a sensitive person as well.

There are people on here that I love yet disagree with, even some that may seem harsh.

Yet we agree to disagree. And I've seen it with others on here outside of me.

So I would just ask you continue to discuss and I ask those of you who have @Macabeus on ignore to take him off ignore and try again.

As I said I'm not perfect, never will be this side of heaven, neither will others.
 
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I don't get notified when someone tags me.. lol

Anyhoo, I don't know why we wouldn't be able to in heaven, when on earth He was a physical, visible person that all could see..
I think she means the Father. We will see Christ and the Father seated enthroned. Perhaps the Holy Spirit will be visible too. The Apocalypse represents the HS as seven lamps of fire, though that’s probably symbolic

If there are modalists here, I’m in for it again...😓
 
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But he is not preaching the Gospel ?...xox...

I do not think so. but I can not remember,

I need to understand why people are putting him on ignore , what is the problem ?...xox...
His attitude and continued attack against other brothers based on things which are not true (concerning them)
 

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Hi mate.

I hope I can explain myself correctly.

I think the issue started when you first joined this thread.
You did come across as a fruit inspector and as a result works salvation person.
I sense that you are a sensitive person.
The reason being is that when you felt you were personally attacked you reacted as most do when they feel they are.

I understand that and I must say that some of words used against you I would have taken it that way as well.

If memory serves me I did try to put out that we need to understand the people we respond to before we respond. Make accommodation as such.

So you had a tendency when responding to posts to people to use it as an opportunity to expose/attack those who you thought attacked you personally.

After all I think you do not have an issue with disagreement concerning some doctrinal issues.

I'm really glad that @Rosemaryx posted what she did earlier on.

Over the last few days after the warning given by the mods I have seen a change in the way you are posting.

You are now trying to engage with those that you feel attacked you personally.
I was umming and arring whether to say something to those who have an issue with you and those who you have an issue with.

Do I step in and say take you of ignore and talk and discuss or leave it alone.

The thing is the people who you are now seeking have you on ignore so they do not see this.

I respect the moves you have made.

I'm not posting as a perfect person who gets it right all the time.
Also know that I am a sensitive person as well.

There are people on here that I love yet disagree with, even some that may seem harsh.

Yet we agree to disagree. And I've seen it with others on here outside of me.

So I would just ask you continue to discuss and I ask those of you who have @Macabeus on ignore to take him off ignore and try again.

As I said I'm not perfect, never will be this side of heaven, neither will others.
@BillG ...The one thing that attracted me to you when I came to CC , was your gentle spirit...xox...
 
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Hi mate.

I hope I can explain myself correctly.

I think the issue started when you first joined this thread.
You did come across as a fruit inspector and as a result works salvation person.
I sense that you are a sensitive person.
The reason being is that when you felt you were personally attacked you reacted as most do when they feel they are.

I understand that and I must say that some of words used against you I would have taken it that way as well.

If memory serves me I did try to put out that we need to understand the people we respond to before we respond. Make accommodation as such.

So you had a tendency when responding to posts to people to use it as an opportunity to expose/attack those who you thought attacked you personally.

After all I think you do not have an issue with disagreement concerning some doctrinal issues.

I'm really glad that @Rosemaryx posted what she did earlier on.

Over the last few days after the warning given by the mods I have seen a change in the way you are posting.

You are now trying to engage with those that you feel attacked you personally.
I was umming and arring whether to say something to those who have an issue with you and those who you have an issue with.

Do I step in and say take you of ignore and talk and discuss or leave it alone.

The thing is the people who you are now seeking have you on ignore so they do not see this.

I respect the moves you have made.

I'm not posting as a perfect person who gets it right all the time.
Also know that I am a sensitive person as well.

There are people on here that I love yet disagree with, even some that may seem harsh.

Yet we agree to disagree. And I've seen it with others on here outside of me.

So I would just ask you continue to discuss and I ask those of you who have @Macabeus on ignore to take him off ignore and try again.

As I said I'm not perfect, never will be this side of heaven, neither will others.
Thanks. Appreciate the post. I will never attack a person over doctrine. Attack the position, not the person.

But yes when I feel misrepresented, I get riled up. Hopefully I can improve in this area.

I never tried to be a fruit inspector. My point back then was the same thing I am saying now. If you read what I say now, it is the same as I said back then. But a couple people misunderstood me and it snowballed from there.
Nothing I have ever said was meant to inspect fruit. What I said then about bearing fruit , that ANY regenerated Christian could bear fruit by Gods grace, was not intended to judge or condemn. It actually started out as a desire to encourage and edify. But then I was called a fruit inspector and it spiraled from there.

So I hope you all understand me better.
 
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Fruit of the Spirit is Patience :)...xox...
I must admit, some people try my patience and it is better for me to just walk away (or in this case ignore) lol

I have removed him from ignore a few times, and every time, it just got out of hand, I have no desire to continue to give these people an audience..
 
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I do not think so. but I can not remember,

His attitude and continued attack against other brothers based on things which are not true (concerning them)
Which were the result of them attacking me based on things that were not true about me. Not excusing my actions, but if you were consistent, you would hold them to the same standards you hold me to. But their your friends so you have a bias in their favor.

Read my posts today. My position HAS NOT changed, only my demeanor. But I was called a work salvationist, a fruit inspector, a scripture twister, a liar, a deceiver, a legalist, a hypocrite, and many other things. So a little understanding from you would be appreciated

Not excusing anything, but nothing was done in a vacuum
 
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I must admit, some people try my patience and it is better for me to just walk away (or in this case ignore) lol

I have removed him from ignore a few times, and every time, it just got out of hand, I have no desire to continue to give these people an audience..
Because you do not see the posts that cause me to respond the way I do. Like mesaying repeatedly over and over we are saved by grace, not works, and being called a works salvationist. Like saying that Jesus loses none of His sheep, and someone says I believe salvation is maintained by works, etc. and the endless name calling, which started before I said anything negative about any personthem on it. And all you see is me misbehaving

You have on ignore and didn’t see what I said and then someone misrepresents me and I call