Our God is a loving God?

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JayJ

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Burning people for eternity in Hell? I would never be able to do something so horrible to even the worst of my enemies, why does God do this to the majority of the human race? By that I mean send them to Hell and please no "they choose hell" garbage God controls all WE DO NOT CONTROL HIM.
 
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Maranatha_Yeshua

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LOL, that explains a lot.
 
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JayJ

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A metaphor? What?
 
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Brackenzee

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Metaphor
Language used to evoke an emotional response without literally describing the subject.
 
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Maranatha_Yeshua

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Heresy
Any opinions or doctrines at variance with the official or orthodox position.
 
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JayJ

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Oh God... just wow.... woooow.
 
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We were created for fellowship with God. God places a giant hole in our heart that only he can fill; Romans 1: 19 For the truth about God is known to them instinctively. God has put this knowledge in their hearts; and when we live our live as we see fit, ignoring our Creator, then we will spend the afterlife in the exact same fashion; eternally separated from God. On judgement day there will be no atheists, and we will all be judged for the act of acknowledging God through His Savior Jesus Christ, or for ignoring God. All He wants is our love, and if we love Him now, then we will get to love Him forever, but if we ignore Him now, then we will be separated from Him forever, and that separation is hell.
 
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sportygirl

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I will admit this is a hard concept to understand and to be ok with. Our life is a battle, and i believe God wants us to be his people, but Satan just as strongly wants us to be his. When people choose Satan which either goes from actively choosing him or from not choosing God than tehy go with Satan which is hell. Yes this sounds harsh that a loving God would send those he loves to this horrible place to live away from them, but when that happens tehy are no longer is, and so they can't be close to him. They chose evil over love.
 
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the Hebrew word Gehenna was taken from the town garbage dump just outside the city walls

anything useless was thrown into gehenna - permanently
 
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JayJ said:
Burning people for eternity in Hell? I would never be able to do something so horrible to even the worst of my enemies, why does God do this to the majority of the human race? By that I mean send them to Hell and please no "they choose hell" garbage God controls all WE DO NOT CONTROL HIM.
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You are embracing Dante's understanding of HeLL, not Gods.
 
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Love is not love that degrades itself. There are metaphoric elements in the discriptions of hell, the closest words that can be used to describe, but hell itself is very real. I think that if God did not send those who choose to remain enslaved to hell then He must invite hell to invade heaven.
 
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JayJ said:
Burning people for eternity in Hell? I would never be able to do something so horrible to even the worst of my enemies, why does God do this to the majority of the human race? By that I mean send them to Hell and please no "they choose hell" garbage God controls all WE DO NOT CONTROL HIM.
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Probably because he is God and he can do what he wants. But aside from that, God gives you the free will to choose whether you want to go to Heaven or Hell. I don't know why you call it garbage even though it's the truth. You have the power to either believe or not believe.
 
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Maranatha_Yeshua said:
Can you explain God's HeLL?
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Yep. It will be a collection of people that are completely narcissistic. They will be aware of each other, but only as objects - Lewis describes HeLL as a place where the only thing that the residents have in common with each other is a burning hatred for the self and neighbor and God.

The motto of HeLL is twofold, "I've been cheated out of paradise (no ability to take personal responsibility and zero self awareness), and I should be running this place! (I AM)

Citizens of heLL merely replace the message of the OT (I AM) and the message of the NT (therefore, I will love God, myself, and my neighbor) with (I AM SELF) and (I will despise, GOD, myself, and others, because I know I am really not God).
 
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Maranatha_Yeshua

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aspen said:
Yep. It will be a collection of people that are completely narcissistic. They will be aware of each other, but only as objects - Lewis describes HeLL as a place where the only thing that the residents have in common with each other is a burning hatred for the self and neighbor and God.

The motto of HeLL is twofold, "I've been cheated out of paradise (no ability to take personal responsibility and zero self awareness), and I should be running this place! (I AM)

Citizens of heLL merely replace the message of the OT (I AM) and the message of the NT (therefore, I will love God, myself, and my neighbor) with (I AM SELF) and (I will despise, GOD, myself, and others, because I know I am really not God).
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Haven't heard that theory before, nice explanation though. Thank you.
 
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aspen said:
Yep. It will be a collection of people that are completely narcissistic. They will be aware of each other, but only as objects - Lewis describes HeLL as a place where the only thing that the residents have in common with each other is a burning hatred for the self and neighbor and God.

The motto of HeLL is twofold, "I've been cheated out of paradise (no ability to take personal responsibility and zero self awareness), and I should be running this place! (I AM)

Citizens of heLL merely replace the message of the OT (I AM) and the message of the NT (therefore, I will love God, myself, and my neighbor) with (I AM SELF) and (I will despise, GOD, myself, and others, because I know I am really not God).
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Do you have any Biblical support for this?
 
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charisenexcelcis said:
Do you have any Biblical support for this?
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All the verses condemning Pride. Narcissism is the result of the sanctification of Pride, rather than the sanctification of God. Hell is a place for people who have fulfilled the serpent's half-promise - 'you will be like gods'.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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aspen said:
All the verses condemning Pride. Narcissism is the result of the sanctification of Pride, rather than the sanctification of God. Hell is a place for people who have fulfilled the serpent's half-promise - 'you will be like gods'.
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So your description is based upon what you perceive as connotations rather than denotations.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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aspen said:
All the verses condemning Pride. Narcissism is the result of the sanctification of Pride, rather than the sanctification of God. Hell is a place for people who have fulfilled the serpent's half-promise - 'you will be like gods'.
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By that method, couldn't you just as well claim that Hell was a place where people continually engaged in illicit sex?
 
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