You are not looking at all of what the original poster had written then. They said there is no clean camp or unclean camp. In other words, they are saying a man cannot be defiled by what comes out of his mouth (According to the OP), which is unbiblical. He also says we do not measure up to the law. The law under the New Testament is to love God and to love your neighbor. This fulfills the law according to Romans 13. But if one does not love, then one does not know God. For God is love. So while the original poster might recognize that a believer would not do really horrible sins like murder, etc. They seem to undermine the issue of holiness or righteousness by saying they cannot keep the law, etc.
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No, it is not pointless. I said what I did because I wanted to show you that there are things in this world you don't know. You don't know everyone's heart and life like God does. Your saying that just because you have not seen people live righteously and not sin means that they don't exist. Yet there are many things you don't see that do exist.
How many times did Adam and Eve mess up before it was considered wrong? Only once. Sin is serious and there is no excuse for it.
Uh, no. Romans 7 is not Paul speaking as a Christian who was struggling with sin. He is speaking as a Jew before he became a Christian. For Paul says in Romans 7 that he was sold under sin and is carnal. Yet, in Romans 8 he says he has been set free from the power of the law of sin and death.
So you don't believe 1 John 1:9 that says,.... if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteoussness? Who is more prideful? The person who holds onto their sin or the person who confesses their sin before God and forsakes it? Did you ever read Luke 18:9-14 recently?
I don't sin (second death sins or those types of sin that lead unto death) as a way of life. Does that mean I am perfect? No.
How many times did Adam and Eve mess up before it was considered wrong? Only once. Sin is serious and there is no excuse for it.
Uh, no. Romans 7 is not Paul speaking as a Christian who was struggling with sin. He is speaking as a Jew before he became a Christian. For Paul says in Romans 7 that he was sold under sin and is carnal. Yet, in Romans 8 he says he has been set free from the power of the law of sin and death.
So you don't believe 1 John 1:9 that says,.... if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteoussness? Who is more prideful? The person who holds onto their sin or the person who confesses their sin before God and forsakes it? Did you ever read Luke 18:9-14 recently?
I don't sin (second death sins or those types of sin that lead unto death) as a way of life. Does that mean I am perfect? No.
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Step 1: Fear God and obey His commandments for this is the whole duty of Man. Obedience IS the end game!, But I see you trying to get to another point, so let's just remember the correct premise and move on for now...
Step2: "grace extends to everyone" from God--YES! From us --No!, until we are found in Christ Jesus. For we are unable to merit that delivery otherwise in love, which is the measure of Gods credit, in the act of grace.
Step 3: Simple answer here: Gods response is ; Do not think more highly of yourself than you ought, speaking to the brethren...The "unclean vs. "Clean" issue here is in my understanding correct .....that feels good huh! Smile.Correct interpretation is always a blast.
Step 4: My "Christ followering" does not enjoy in it's default button to look down on other's in their ignorance, you would be talking of the fallen or carnal Christian, at best here....This person would be best described as not following Christ's laws and will.
Step 5: I do know of these people you speak of here.....they too need to read the scripture found in step 3.
Step 6: "us' vs. "them" High-five number two, sure I agree with that. That is biblical in it's conclusion.
Step 7: "We tend to keep accounts"--Well it tends to want to see the data on that questionnaire you put your percentages on...68.5 doing this based on the Michigan study of 1987...etc etc The judgement is not well based, but your point is a valid ....go read step 3 reply to those you speak of.
Step 8: And here I want to know where in the Word does it say, "God has permanently sent the Spiritual accounting departments off with pensions?...maybe a bit over stated, for the sake of the point?
Step 9: "Who don't measure up in our own minds" ... does have scripture to respond to other than step 3, smile...It talks of a wandering mind , and judgement...The judgment verse is: "do not judge, lest you be judged...."
Step2: "grace extends to everyone" from God--YES! From us --No!, until we are found in Christ Jesus. For we are unable to merit that delivery otherwise in love, which is the measure of Gods credit, in the act of grace.
Step 3: Simple answer here: Gods response is ; Do not think more highly of yourself than you ought, speaking to the brethren...The "unclean vs. "Clean" issue here is in my understanding correct .....that feels good huh! Smile.Correct interpretation is always a blast.
Step 4: My "Christ followering" does not enjoy in it's default button to look down on other's in their ignorance, you would be talking of the fallen or carnal Christian, at best here....This person would be best described as not following Christ's laws and will.
Step 5: I do know of these people you speak of here.....they too need to read the scripture found in step 3.
Step 6: "us' vs. "them" High-five number two, sure I agree with that. That is biblical in it's conclusion.
Step 7: "We tend to keep accounts"--Well it tends to want to see the data on that questionnaire you put your percentages on...68.5 doing this based on the Michigan study of 1987...etc etc The judgement is not well based, but your point is a valid ....go read step 3 reply to those you speak of.
Step 8: And here I want to know where in the Word does it say, "God has permanently sent the Spiritual accounting departments off with pensions?...maybe a bit over stated, for the sake of the point?
Step 9: "Who don't measure up in our own minds" ... does have scripture to respond to other than step 3, smile...It talks of a wandering mind , and judgement...The judgment verse is: "do not judge, lest you be judged...."
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You cannot be imperfect and yet never sin. I know that no one can live a life where they don't ever sin because we are human and even though we are saved even though we are made new we still live in the flesh and the flesh is human and human nature sadly has a sinful nature. If you truly believe to be without sin then I am afraid the enemy has tricked you, this whole sinless agenda is extremely prideful and pride is a sin. in fact if you even think rudely of someone or think yourself better than them in any way you are sinning, you sin all the time everyday even when you don't even realize it or mean to.
Romans 6:14 says, “For sin shall no longerbe your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.”(NIV) If ever there was a statement of Paul’s to cling to,friend, it is this one. For what is more important in the Christian life thansin not being your master? Many people can write books on how to overcome sin,but Paul tells us in eighteen words. And who would know better than Paul? Whenhe lived under the law he was the chief of sinners, a blasphemer, and a violentman. He was so zealous to protect the Pharisaic religion – a religion thatpinned its hopes of Heaven on strict obedience to the law − that he wasresponsible for families being thrown into prison for being Christians. Haveyou ever read Romans chapter seven, friend? Much of it is a tale of despair, ofanguish, and of sin being Paul’s master, for he is recalling his time as aPharisee before his conversion to Christianity. After his conversion, however,this same Paul became just as zealous to defend the need for righteous livingas a Christian. For at that point, he was not living under the law, but undergrace.
Now what does Paul mean exactly by theChristian not being under the law? Well he states in Romans 10:4, “For Christis the end of the law for righteousnessto every one that believeth.” (KJV, emphasis mine)
So we see, when Paul says we are not underthe law, he means the Christian is not under a law of righteousness before God.So Paul is not saying Christ is the end of the law full stop. No! He saysChrist is the end of the law forrighteousness. The law remains, therefore, but the penalty attached to itfor breaking the law (sin) is removed. Yousee, if you are not under a law of righteousness before God, you cannot be madeunrighteous in His sight for your imperfections concerning those laws, can you?It is not possible. You cannot be condemned, therefore, foryour imperfections where those laws are concerned. You are off the hook. Thisis what so many find so hard to reconcile, however. They find it so hard toaccept the Christian is not under a righteousness of obedience to the lawbefore God. They know that must mean you cannot be condemned for your sin, thepenalty, for it must have been removed, and to them, that gives a person alicence to sin. You see, however, it is much easier to understand Paul’scomments about us not being under the law if we accept the core terms of beingunder the New Covenant. I would place them before you again, if I may, inHebrews 10:16-17:
Thisis the covenant I will make with them after that time,says the Lord. ‘I will put my laws intheir hearts, and I will write them ontheir minds.’ Then he adds: ‘Their sins and lawless acts I willremember no more.’” (NIV, emphasis mine)
As I have previously mentioned, the NewCovenant hinges on not one, but two core points. At the point of conversion,the Holy Spirit writes the law on our minds and places it on our hearts. Wehave then been born again. We have been changed into people who want to obey inour hearts the law God desires us to keep. At the very moment this happens, weare not under law but under grace, for we have a Saviour from our sin. Our sinsand lawless acts will be remembered no more. You see, friend, Jesus cannot beyour Saviour from sin unless you are born again. For He will not be anyone’sSaviour from sin unless they desire in their heart to live as His Father wantsthem to. You see, God is not stupid. He didn’t make a covenant that would giveanyone a license to sin if the penalty for sin were removed. Born again peoplecannot view this covenant that way, for they want to obey from their hearts.That is the whole point of being born again. If you want to obey God from yourheart, as I have previously mentioned, it is impossible for you then towilfully − without conscience − seek to break God’s laws. It cannot happen,friend. Jesus said to Nicodemus, “Ye mustbe born again.” (emphasis mine) It is not an option; it is pivotal. Withoutthat happening, you cannot be saved.
Now what does Paul mean exactly by theChristian not being under the law? Well he states in Romans 10:4, “For Christis the end of the law for righteousnessto every one that believeth.” (KJV, emphasis mine)
So we see, when Paul says we are not underthe law, he means the Christian is not under a law of righteousness before God.So Paul is not saying Christ is the end of the law full stop. No! He saysChrist is the end of the law forrighteousness. The law remains, therefore, but the penalty attached to itfor breaking the law (sin) is removed. Yousee, if you are not under a law of righteousness before God, you cannot be madeunrighteous in His sight for your imperfections concerning those laws, can you?It is not possible. You cannot be condemned, therefore, foryour imperfections where those laws are concerned. You are off the hook. Thisis what so many find so hard to reconcile, however. They find it so hard toaccept the Christian is not under a righteousness of obedience to the lawbefore God. They know that must mean you cannot be condemned for your sin, thepenalty, for it must have been removed, and to them, that gives a person alicence to sin. You see, however, it is much easier to understand Paul’scomments about us not being under the law if we accept the core terms of beingunder the New Covenant. I would place them before you again, if I may, inHebrews 10:16-17:
Thisis the covenant I will make with them after that time,says the Lord. ‘I will put my laws intheir hearts, and I will write them ontheir minds.’ Then he adds: ‘Their sins and lawless acts I willremember no more.’” (NIV, emphasis mine)
As I have previously mentioned, the NewCovenant hinges on not one, but two core points. At the point of conversion,the Holy Spirit writes the law on our minds and places it on our hearts. Wehave then been born again. We have been changed into people who want to obey inour hearts the law God desires us to keep. At the very moment this happens, weare not under law but under grace, for we have a Saviour from our sin. Our sinsand lawless acts will be remembered no more. You see, friend, Jesus cannot beyour Saviour from sin unless you are born again. For He will not be anyone’sSaviour from sin unless they desire in their heart to live as His Father wantsthem to. You see, God is not stupid. He didn’t make a covenant that would giveanyone a license to sin if the penalty for sin were removed. Born again peoplecannot view this covenant that way, for they want to obey from their hearts.That is the whole point of being born again. If you want to obey God from yourheart, as I have previously mentioned, it is impossible for you then towilfully − without conscience − seek to break God’s laws. It cannot happen,friend. Jesus said to Nicodemus, “Ye mustbe born again.” (emphasis mine) It is not an option; it is pivotal. Withoutthat happening, you cannot be saved.
Paul says, shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound? The writer of Hebrews says, without holiness no man shall see the Lord. Jesus says, be ye perfect as my Heaveny Father is perfect. Why would Jesus tell His people to do something that they could never possibly do? Galatians 5:24 says they that are Christ's have crucified the affections and lusts. So it comes down to what are you going to believe? Your own personal belief or the Bible on this matter?
No. Actually the Bible teaches the exact opposite. Ephesians 2 and Colossians 3, Paul says we as believers used to sin in the past but we are not that way anymore.
Romans 8 says, they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
That doesn't make any sense. You are defending sin and yet saying I am sinning for defending my belief?
I am not claiming to be better than anyone. I am nothing. I am just a clay jar to be smashed or used for the Master's use. Any good that works within my life is not my own doing but it is God working thru me. He deserves the glory and it is not myself.
As for sinning: No, I do not habitually sin every single day. If I do, I confess that sin and forsake it. I don't throw my arms up in defeat and give into sin. That would make me evil.
No. Actually the Bible teaches the exact opposite. Ephesians 2 and Colossians 3, Paul says we as believers used to sin in the past but we are not that way anymore.
Romans 8 says, they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
That doesn't make any sense. You are defending sin and yet saying I am sinning for defending my belief?
I am not claiming to be better than anyone. I am nothing. I am just a clay jar to be smashed or used for the Master's use. Any good that works within my life is not my own doing but it is God working thru me. He deserves the glory and it is not myself.
As for sinning: No, I do not habitually sin every single day. If I do, I confess that sin and forsake it. I don't throw my arms up in defeat and give into sin. That would make me evil.
"Be perfect , therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Matt. 5:48. How do you dismiss this scripture?
I think you haven't got the difference yet between the old man repaired and the New Man in christ....Having put to death the old Nature and living now in the New Nature of Christ .....thing...I pray for that light switch to go off for you, because If I didn't understand that point I too would defend your point. Yet I cannot-- for scripture is clear on that....Victory over sin is all-inclusive and if christ is the authority over all things and I am in His History and union with Him in Spirit, I too, am more than conquering Sin...
Yes, there are those of us that reject that final victory from time to time, but we return to center thru Gods grace and forgiveness...This is not the NORMAL life cycle tho..for God says, "what shall we say, shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase.?..scipture is as plain as day ...in it's response here, and these are Christs words to you...By no Means! Or don't you know the death He died He died once for all...and the life we now live is in Christ Jesus...
Too many scripture you are overlooking here.I know you to be a man of reason, let God reason this with you..
I think you haven't got the difference yet between the old man repaired and the New Man in christ....Having put to death the old Nature and living now in the New Nature of Christ .....thing...I pray for that light switch to go off for you, because If I didn't understand that point I too would defend your point. Yet I cannot-- for scripture is clear on that....Victory over sin is all-inclusive and if christ is the authority over all things and I am in His History and union with Him in Spirit, I too, am more than conquering Sin...
Yes, there are those of us that reject that final victory from time to time, but we return to center thru Gods grace and forgiveness...This is not the NORMAL life cycle tho..for God says, "what shall we say, shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase.?..scipture is as plain as day ...in it's response here, and these are Christs words to you...By no Means! Or don't you know the death He died He died once for all...and the life we now live is in Christ Jesus...
Too many scripture you are overlooking here.I know you to be a man of reason, let God reason this with you..
Being born again is a basic Christian teaching. It is the teaching that once a person repents of their sins and accepts Jesus, then the Spirit will transform a person's heart and life and God will then live within them (Which will result in good fruit that comes from God).
Being under Law vs. Grace:
An example of being under the Law would be trying to do something so as to be saved. Which would be Works Salvationism. Once a person is saved, then God has changed their heart to so what is right. If they sin again. They have God's grace to fall back upon so as to allow God to work within their lives.
You cannot be immoral or get away with not even one sin with the thinking you are saved. Paul says, shall we continue in sin? He says, God forbid. Meaning you can't sin. That's what it means.
Being under Law vs. Grace:
An example of being under the Law would be trying to do something so as to be saved. Which would be Works Salvationism. Once a person is saved, then God has changed their heart to so what is right. If they sin again. They have God's grace to fall back upon so as to allow God to work within their lives.
You cannot be immoral or get away with not even one sin with the thinking you are saved. Paul says, shall we continue in sin? He says, God forbid. Meaning you can't sin. That's what it means.
I read the whole post, I just didn't paste the whole thing.
[EXCERPT]"Grace extends to everyone, even those Christian Chatters that annoy us to no end.....we tend to separate those chatters from ourselves, looking at them as "unclean" while we are in the "clean" camp."
Now you misquoted them and then misinterpreted...a perfect strawman. They only summed up the Pharisee/Publican story.
Here is a point many miss about LOVE including yourself. LOVE cannot be turned into a law...(Aww, do I have to love that jerk?) Love is a gift included and is part of our new nature which we exercise as we grasp by faith the great love by which God loved us.
And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. We love him, because he first loved us.
(1Jn 4:16-19)
[EXCERPT]"Grace extends to everyone, even those Christian Chatters that annoy us to no end.....we tend to separate those chatters from ourselves, looking at them as "unclean" while we are in the "clean" camp."
Now you misquoted them and then misinterpreted...a perfect strawman. They only summed up the Pharisee/Publican story.
Here is a point many miss about LOVE including yourself. LOVE cannot be turned into a law...(Aww, do I have to love that jerk?) Love is a gift included and is part of our new nature which we exercise as we grasp by faith the great love by which God loved us.
And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. We love him, because he first loved us.
(1Jn 4:16-19)
Think of the person you love the most in this world. If you killed them, you would have to pay the penalty for your actions the law demands in your country wouldn't you? What if your government came to you and told you if you did harm/kill them you would not pay the penalty required by the law for doing so, the penalty had been removed from you. Would that knowledge immediatley make you go and kill the person-break that particular law?
But reason must end with commitment. Or you will never see the possibility of a sinless life. God releases to His children the truths of His Word and the understanding of God is thru the ministry of the the Holy Spirit,producing in you that New Man...sinless from the outset thru the blood of Jesus, as you stay In Christ. Understanding comes from the all in commitment.Power comes from understanding faithful living and claiming His promises thru scripture.
I agree with you completely, except one point...You are underestimating the power of Grace in the formula you speak of. Yes we are free from sin...yes God wants us to follow that in our lives...yes anything not done in faith is a sin...yes sin should be called what it is and we are not to sin even once....yet God knows that some will slip and fall, he knows some will do this slightly in error and some will leave completely, as the prodigal son did in the story mentioned in scripture... yet when God goes and gets Him, leaving the flock to do so, we see Gods love for us and His character, He does it with a fervent heart for His lost sheep or child.
As we Read that passage on the prodigal and we see Christ running to the returning sinner. He even doesn't let him finish his confession before He puts on the best robe and fixes him a joyful party of return...to the dismay of some in the flock, but thats another story... smile.
So- Yes, I agree but the grace and the power of Gods grace needs to be inline in our balanced thinking...... "Father help me and my brother look into scripture to paint the full picture of Christ and His grace accurately, let your Spirit fill our hearts and let the Holy Spirit nurture us to the completion in your conclusions on this issue..Let us both open our hearts and minds to your teachings and not subjectively enter into the room of prayer, but be a clean slate as we let you speak to us.
I pray for this in your precious name ...Amen!"
God bless brother. Very powerful writing, I look forward to reading more of your stuff thanks for the things God has put on your heart, and I mean that sincerely.
As we Read that passage on the prodigal and we see Christ running to the returning sinner. He even doesn't let him finish his confession before He puts on the best robe and fixes him a joyful party of return...to the dismay of some in the flock, but thats another story... smile.
So- Yes, I agree but the grace and the power of Gods grace needs to be inline in our balanced thinking...... "Father help me and my brother look into scripture to paint the full picture of Christ and His grace accurately, let your Spirit fill our hearts and let the Holy Spirit nurture us to the completion in your conclusions on this issue..Let us both open our hearts and minds to your teachings and not subjectively enter into the room of prayer, but be a clean slate as we let you speak to us.
I pray for this in your precious name ...Amen!"
God bless brother. Very powerful writing, I look forward to reading more of your stuff thanks for the things God has put on your heart, and I mean that sincerely.
No I disagree, we are totally dependent on Christ--yes, but His blood, grace is very powerful and a part of our lives , but is not the loophole to victory, that becomes the foundation of my victory with Christ. My victory is complete and whole perfect in every way...I am not perfect in my Old man but , as has been stated many times, , I am called, "by Christ ,to be perfect as Christ is perfect.". Matt. 5:48 ..Not the boast of this wretched man, but the boast of Christ that lives within me.
I am just speaking the facts of my walk in the Lord.
I am just speaking the facts of my walk in the Lord.
Your point, I see was to make a point reflecting the difference of another persons stand. You did include grace in it, accurately. Your point was to show the totality of the change and expectations of Christ based on the expectations of Christ's merits not our own and the sin conclusion was biblically accurate, I think we are on the same page actually, more than it appeared to me the first time. so my agreement with you would be the conclusion of my re-reading your input...
By keeping the Law (of love in this case) it means you love God with ALL your heart, mind, soul, and strength 100% of the time. Do you do this? Do you even come close? Please don't lie to us.
To be judged by the Law requires 100% perfection...this is why we are robed in His righteousness, so even where we fall short we are covered by His grace.
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
(Jas 2:10)
To be judged by the Law requires 100% perfection...this is why we are robed in His righteousness, so even where we fall short we are covered by His grace.
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
(Jas 2:10)
The term "Transgressions" come to mind read the difference between that and sin, and I see How Satan can use that.. Foundations that are just off are faulty none the less. ...thus having what seems like a tight hold on the conclusion.... I see someone looking at the Old Man and judging it as The new christian, only repaired, or offered a benefit package from God...to HELP US get the job done. Not My New Man ...At all..
That is not the picture here....It is The New Man that now is who those of us that surrender to Him prevail to be.
Look at it this way, my New me Is, my will, connecting to Gods Spirit, making this new combination GOD/ME : Now God says in that relationship that he wants me to surrender my battle to Him so He is a larger share holder in the union. And as time passes He becomes the ruler completely of the orders being lived out day by day .
So here I am with me having sat in things already accomplished in Christ so long It is He who I have all my records attached to..
Can You then challenge God in His character and authority over every little thing here on earth and in the heavens.? Your questions to me are questions, now, you are asking Him directly ......How do your questions hold up to Him?
I am not my own. I am bought at a price, and I am a slave to righteousness. How can anything robe God of my righteousness ,if My battles are his?
Can you rob God if He he doesn't let you?
He talks about us robbing Him in our money, but, in even that, He is the one who made the money, what does God really need with 100 extra bucks a week given to a church? He could blink an eye and make whatever it was the church was going to spend the money on. It is about the heart, and God is a jealous God. He wants all of us... then he blesses.
God is my judge is the meaning of my name. He will make the call on the performance. And this is the testimony, God has given us eternal life; and this life is in His son, whoever has the son has life, whoever does not have the son does not have life..1 John 5:11-12.
And in the performance area, this is the promise I claim just after I wipe the snot out of my eyes in the morning and pray with God and start my day.
Until now you have not asked anything in my name, ask and you will receive and your joy will be complete. John 16:24.
As I leave the house get my coffee and flee the property.:...No temptation has ceased you except what is common to man, and God is faithful He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear, But when you are tempted He will also provide a way out, so you can stand up under it. 1 cor. 10:13.
Then when I make a mistake even tho I am giving my Lord my all, He continues in this graceful RELATIONSHIP, and He forgives as I get up and keep going in His guidance. Do I have to use this provision -no, does he wish I didn't use this much =Yes. Will he still love me if it happens-yes thats why he wrote it...smile....! John 1:9. : Proverbs 3: 5-6. : If we confess our sins He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness.
Trust in the Lord with with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding, but in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths.
God speaks to me at lunch as I sit and He says to me I tell you the truth whoever hears my word and believes in the one who sent me Has eternal life and will not be condemned. He has passed over from death into life. John 5:24
Bam! ... reaffirmed until i go home, after a hard day, I think of: 2 Cor. 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ he is a new creation, the old has gone the new has come.
, I then get on CC and remember Gods promise: And let us consider how we can spur each other on in love and good deeds , let us not give up meeting together , as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another, and all the more, as we see the day approaching.
And in private chat God whispers...come follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. Matt 4:19
I am tired but my point is this is the normal life and victory is possible in the every detail , and to the measure of my faith I tread on.... If you want to know I am Human? Yes! A human In Christ.....My question to you is how much do you doubt that life in its power and authority in your everyday life? Do you trust God?..smile>
That is not the picture here....It is The New Man that now is who those of us that surrender to Him prevail to be.
Look at it this way, my New me Is, my will, connecting to Gods Spirit, making this new combination GOD/ME : Now God says in that relationship that he wants me to surrender my battle to Him so He is a larger share holder in the union. And as time passes He becomes the ruler completely of the orders being lived out day by day .
So here I am with me having sat in things already accomplished in Christ so long It is He who I have all my records attached to..
Can You then challenge God in His character and authority over every little thing here on earth and in the heavens.? Your questions to me are questions, now, you are asking Him directly ......How do your questions hold up to Him?
I am not my own. I am bought at a price, and I am a slave to righteousness. How can anything robe God of my righteousness ,if My battles are his?
Can you rob God if He he doesn't let you?
He talks about us robbing Him in our money, but, in even that, He is the one who made the money, what does God really need with 100 extra bucks a week given to a church? He could blink an eye and make whatever it was the church was going to spend the money on. It is about the heart, and God is a jealous God. He wants all of us... then he blesses.
God is my judge is the meaning of my name. He will make the call on the performance. And this is the testimony, God has given us eternal life; and this life is in His son, whoever has the son has life, whoever does not have the son does not have life..1 John 5:11-12.
And in the performance area, this is the promise I claim just after I wipe the snot out of my eyes in the morning and pray with God and start my day.
Until now you have not asked anything in my name, ask and you will receive and your joy will be complete. John 16:24.
As I leave the house get my coffee and flee the property.:...No temptation has ceased you except what is common to man, and God is faithful He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear, But when you are tempted He will also provide a way out, so you can stand up under it. 1 cor. 10:13.
Then when I make a mistake even tho I am giving my Lord my all, He continues in this graceful RELATIONSHIP, and He forgives as I get up and keep going in His guidance. Do I have to use this provision -no, does he wish I didn't use this much =Yes. Will he still love me if it happens-yes thats why he wrote it...smile....! John 1:9. : Proverbs 3: 5-6. : If we confess our sins He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness.
Trust in the Lord with with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding, but in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths.
God speaks to me at lunch as I sit and He says to me I tell you the truth whoever hears my word and believes in the one who sent me Has eternal life and will not be condemned. He has passed over from death into life. John 5:24
Bam! ... reaffirmed until i go home, after a hard day, I think of: 2 Cor. 5:17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ he is a new creation, the old has gone the new has come.
, I then get on CC and remember Gods promise: And let us consider how we can spur each other on in love and good deeds , let us not give up meeting together , as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another, and all the more, as we see the day approaching.
And in private chat God whispers...come follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. Matt 4:19
I am tired but my point is this is the normal life and victory is possible in the every detail , and to the measure of my faith I tread on.... If you want to know I am Human? Yes! A human In Christ.....My question to you is how much do you doubt that life in its power and authority in your everyday life? Do you trust God?..smile>