By "I don't see that in Romans 14" I mean I don't see that interpretation. I read Romans 14, I see verses about dealing with eating, but I don't think the point of the scripture is to say it is alright to eat pagan food, and frankly I don't think that is what Paul was trying to say. God does not change. If He was offended by pagan stuff in the OT, He would still be offended by it in the NT. God isn't going to change His mind and suddenly say "Oh, it's okay for you to eat food that was sacrificed to pagan gods now."
I wasn't trying to destroy a point of view. I was simply ignoring it, because I didn't see the correlation between your example and Romans 14.
I really only brought up James 3:18, because the peacemakers vs peacekeepers example was used while I was at a James bible study a while back. Whether it was the right use of the word "peace" in that exact context, I don't know. We didn't exactly stay on topic at the Bible study, but I don't see anything wrong with getting sidetrack at a Bible study as long as it's still the Bible you're studying.
The thing is, I think the type of peace I was talking about and the type of peace mentioned in this verse can co-exist.
Matthew 5:38-42 doesn't really fit when it comes to being a peacemaker, because it's not the same thing. A peacemaker is someone who sees a problem, and instead of ignoring it, goes out to fix it. Jesus was a peacemaker. He saw things were horribly wrong, so He came down to earth and fixed things. Being a peacemaker can cause a stir, but this does not mean a person is fitting or anything of the sort.
When it comes to Matthew 5:38-42, Jesus is not asking us to accept all the wrong in the world. This scripture is not a call for Christians to turn a blind eye to wrong, sin, injustice, etc. This is telling us that we do not need to look for vengeance. Jesus is saying that instead of fighting someone back when they do us wrong, be forgiving instead, be merciful.
I am not talking about this sort of thing when I say we should be peacemakers. I am not saying that when someone sues you, to turn around and counter-sue them. I am not saying when someone slaps you on the cheek to slap them back. I am saying that to have peace you must make peace. When I argue with my sister, we don't make peace by ignoring eachother and pretending the argument never happened. That is keeping the peace, sure. When I stay silent after an argument, I keep the peace by not bringing it back up, but I'm not making peace. Inside I am still in turmoil over the argument. I am still feeling wronged, and confused, and I am not at peace with myself or my sister. Ignoring a problem does not make it go away.
Likewise, by ignoring people on chat, we are not making peace. We are simply keeping it. By confronting these people, we are not trying to start a fight. I am not asking that we slap a person who uses racist language. I am asking that peace is made by people addressing the problem, and looking for a solution.
Are you seeing the difference?
I wasn't trying to destroy a point of view. I was simply ignoring it, because I didn't see the correlation between your example and Romans 14.
I really only brought up James 3:18, because the peacemakers vs peacekeepers example was used while I was at a James bible study a while back. Whether it was the right use of the word "peace" in that exact context, I don't know. We didn't exactly stay on topic at the Bible study, but I don't see anything wrong with getting sidetrack at a Bible study as long as it's still the Bible you're studying.
The thing is, I think the type of peace I was talking about and the type of peace mentioned in this verse can co-exist.
Matthew 5:38-42 doesn't really fit when it comes to being a peacemaker, because it's not the same thing. A peacemaker is someone who sees a problem, and instead of ignoring it, goes out to fix it. Jesus was a peacemaker. He saw things were horribly wrong, so He came down to earth and fixed things. Being a peacemaker can cause a stir, but this does not mean a person is fitting or anything of the sort.
When it comes to Matthew 5:38-42, Jesus is not asking us to accept all the wrong in the world. This scripture is not a call for Christians to turn a blind eye to wrong, sin, injustice, etc. This is telling us that we do not need to look for vengeance. Jesus is saying that instead of fighting someone back when they do us wrong, be forgiving instead, be merciful.
I am not talking about this sort of thing when I say we should be peacemakers. I am not saying that when someone sues you, to turn around and counter-sue them. I am not saying when someone slaps you on the cheek to slap them back. I am saying that to have peace you must make peace. When I argue with my sister, we don't make peace by ignoring eachother and pretending the argument never happened. That is keeping the peace, sure. When I stay silent after an argument, I keep the peace by not bringing it back up, but I'm not making peace. Inside I am still in turmoil over the argument. I am still feeling wronged, and confused, and I am not at peace with myself or my sister. Ignoring a problem does not make it go away.
Likewise, by ignoring people on chat, we are not making peace. We are simply keeping it. By confronting these people, we are not trying to start a fight. I am not asking that we slap a person who uses racist language. I am asking that peace is made by people addressing the problem, and looking for a solution.
Are you seeing the difference?
Can I say that holiness is not an act? Think about that. We do not become holy by acting holy. We become holy by birth. For the man who is clean, all things are clean. It is not what goes into the man that makes him unclean, but what comes from his mouth that shows him to be unclean. Jesus was holy not because He never sinned, but because God is His Father. This is what upset the religious of His day, because they knew that they were not holy, and needed a covering to even have a chance of approaching God. (Only the high priest, and only once a year, and only with the shedding of blood.) And here is a man claiming to be born of God. In other words, holy.
This is the essence of salvation in Christ Jesus.