Question about the Lord's Supper
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I believe that Jesus was deliberate and intentional. He used unleavened bread because He was celebrating the Passover with the disciples.
Unleavened bread is a picture of sinlessness - our Savior being without spot or blemish. He also said, "Take, eat, this is My body broken for you.
The wine is symbolic of His blood. I believe it's necessary to use unleavened bread and wine.
I am not so positive because in the N.T. we look back...He was sinless, yet BECAME SIN for us and TOOK our SIN upon him.....there is a change in the verbiage for a REASON....and the words are not the same....God makes no mistakes and has a reason for everything......just saying...Azumos is not tied to the bread that Jesus broke for a reason as it is the other places the Passover is celebrated.....
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On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, when it was customary to sacrifice the Passover lamb, Jesus’ disciples asked him, “Where do you want us to go and make preparations for you to eat the Passover?”
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While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take it; this is my body.”
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The greek word artos can be used for any bread, even unleavened. It's just a general term for bread. It's also used for the word loaf. It could be that Jesus broke the loaf (artos).
It might help to look at the context of what's happening.
Matthew 26
17 On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?”
18 He replied, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house.’” 19 So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover.
20 When evening came, Jesus was reclining at the table with the Twelve. 21 And while they were eating, he said, “Truly I tell you, one of you will betray me.”
22 They were very sad and began to say to him one after the other, “Surely you don’t mean me, Lord?”
23 Jesus replied, “The one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. 24 The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”
25 Then Judas, the one who would betray him, said, “Surely you don’t mean me, Rabbi?”
Jesus answered, “You have said so.”
26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.”
27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”
It's the first day of unleavened bread. All leaven would have been thrown away and for the next 7 days they only ate unleavened bread.
The three Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke show that on the night Jesus Christ
was betrayed, He and His disciples prepared and kept the Passover[the start 14th]
(Matthew 26:18,Mark 14:12, 16; Luke 22:15)
the Lords Passover begins at sunset, at the beginning of the 14th.
The current Jewish community observes their Passover on the 15th,
Is Christ correct [14th] or the current Jews[15th] observation today?
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“This feast began on the fourteenth day of the first moon, in the first month, Nisan,
and it lasted only one day; but it was immediately followed by the days of unleavened
bread, which were seven, so that the whole lasted eight days, and all the eight days
are sometimes called the feast of the passover, and sometimes the feast or days of unleavened bread.”
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these days were generally called the Passover or the feast of Unleavened Bread, meaning the
whole eight days, including the Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread. Matthew says,
“after two days is the feast of the passover.” In Mark 14:1 it says, “After two days was the
feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread.” And in Luke 22:1 it says, “Now the feast of
unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.”
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All three use slightly different terminologies, but the meaning is the same.
was betrayed, He and His disciples prepared and kept the Passover[the start 14th]
(Matthew 26:18,Mark 14:12, 16; Luke 22:15)
the Lords Passover begins at sunset, at the beginning of the 14th.
The current Jewish community observes their Passover on the 15th,
Is Christ correct [14th] or the current Jews[15th] observation today?
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“This feast began on the fourteenth day of the first moon, in the first month, Nisan,
and it lasted only one day; but it was immediately followed by the days of unleavened
bread, which were seven, so that the whole lasted eight days, and all the eight days
are sometimes called the feast of the passover, and sometimes the feast or days of unleavened bread.”
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these days were generally called the Passover or the feast of Unleavened Bread, meaning the
whole eight days, including the Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread. Matthew says,
“after two days is the feast of the passover.” In Mark 14:1 it says, “After two days was the
feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread.” And in Luke 22:1 it says, “Now the feast of
unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.”
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All three use slightly different terminologies, but the meaning is the same.
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The Passover only pictures the death of Christ for the remission of sins
that are past (Romans 3:25).
The accepting of His blood does not forgive sins we may later commit;
it does not give license to continue in sin. Therefore when we accept it,
our sins are forgiven only up to that time—past sins.
To what extent shall we put away sin? Not partially, but completely!
And, as leaven is also a type of sin (1 Corinthians 5:8)— leaven puffs up,
and so does sin—and, as seven is God’s number symbolizing completeness,
we are to follow the Passover with seven Days of Unleavened Bread!
The seven Days of Unleavened Bread following Passover picture to us
the complete putting away of sin, the keeping of the commandments—
after past sins are forgiven.
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that are past (Romans 3:25).
The accepting of His blood does not forgive sins we may later commit;
it does not give license to continue in sin. Therefore when we accept it,
our sins are forgiven only up to that time—past sins.
To what extent shall we put away sin? Not partially, but completely!
And, as leaven is also a type of sin (1 Corinthians 5:8)— leaven puffs up,
and so does sin—and, as seven is God’s number symbolizing completeness,
we are to follow the Passover with seven Days of Unleavened Bread!
The seven Days of Unleavened Bread following Passover picture to us
the complete putting away of sin, the keeping of the commandments—
after past sins are forgiven.
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I'm afraid that won't do. Actually believing you serve a God who is just waiting to strike people dead for not using the proper type of bread is a far cry from happening to see someone get sick while in the church building.
I've been using a variety of very different food items and various drinks for communion, off and on, for at least four or more DECADES..... and I am still alive at 71 years of age. I do not serve that God who is out to kill His people.
I've been using a variety of very different food items and various drinks for communion, off and on, for at least four or more DECADES..... and I am still alive at 71 years of age. I do not serve that God who is out to kill His people.
No my dear sister. Nothing in the Bible is "just because"... that is where we make the mistake. Everything (and the Bible says everything) points to our Saviour and is there for a reason. We should take the journey and discover Jesus in it.
So I can tell you without a shadow of doubt Jesus would not have used Budweiser and Coke if it happened in modern day America
So I can tell you without a shadow of doubt Jesus would not have used Budweiser and Coke if it happened in modern day America