Red Flags: Warning Warning you currently have gnostic wolves in your midst

[shroom2]

How many God's are there?

Is this a trick question?

One.

1 Cor 8:6)But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

 

[AnandaHya]

Ananda, I agree with most of your post. Jesus is God. The Sons of God were men. I do not know who all has rejoined with a new name but I will see if I notice. Mostly I wonder why you think #5. If someone is recieving knowledge from the Spirit it could be a gift of the Spirit. It sounds like the gift of "word of knowledge" which is one of the nine gifts of the Spirit. Many other gifts of the Spirit could apply. Do you not believe the gifts of the Spirit are in operation in today's Church?

Apologies Johnathon. I should have clarified. the Cult or Gnostic wolves I was identifying do not just believe ONE of those seven points but ALL of those seven points.

I do believe that the spiritual gifts are still in operation but they should NEVER contradict God's word.

when I say:


5. they believe they have secret knowledge through revelations from a spirit they claim is the God of the Bible


I should have continued to say that "spirit" tells them things contray to the Bible and tells them to believe its voice and leads them to passages in the gnostic text and claims that they are from God NOT the accepted Bible.

as you seen demonstrated by Ada, who believes the Bible (or more specifically our Old Testament) . we have is corrupted by condemned Jews who are racist against the rest of the world. That Jesus wanted to destroy them and I'm sort of agent because I tell people not to believe in the gnostic gospels and that they are lies.

 

[jonathanbchristian]

Thanks, Anandah. I like to stick to the books that Jesus and the apostles certified by quoting them or mentioning them. Luke 24:44 "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." Jesus certified the writings of Moses and the prophets and the book of psalms.

 

[systemdown101]

Amanda you must be jewish or a jew helping sayanim.

I did not say you are jewish but a jew helping maybe brainwashed person.

Yes i know why, cause you can't stand the truth!

No Jesus was not a Jew he was from Galilee.

I don't see this ending well. And that's ignoring that fact that there were Jews in Galilee. Or the fact that Mary was a Jew, and that Jesus was called "Rabbi".

So lets face the truth.
For example Exodus 21:7-11 NLT.

7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.

A little group self rejecting the bible and exaggerating it in a egocentric,rabbinical, talmudic form for supremacy
to abuse, rape,enslave,genocide and plunder the nations as a parasite, building an exclusive state in the state to buy and sell even the forces and proxies to do the dirty evil work for them masquerading in the background.
They all are doing this with the help of their father, the devil!

So, I'm not sure what this has to do with Exodus 21: 7-11.

 

[cronjecj]

Is this a trick question?

One.

1 Cor 8:6)But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

so there's one Lord and one God?

is the Lord God?

 

[shroom2]

so there's one Lord and one God?

That's what the bible says. See:
1 Cor 8:6)But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Eph 4:
4) There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6) One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.


Rom 1:7) To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Cor 1:3) Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Cor 1:2) Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Gal 1:3) Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,

Eph 1:2) Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

.....

I see a pattern. Do you?

is the Lord God?

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God. A man.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Ada your problem is you don't obey Jesus and His commandments and falsely accuse people because of your blind hatred and paranoia.

Give me one post where I am shaking "hands with the synagogue of Satan"?

You do not bear the fruits of a Christian because all you spew forth is hate and bitter water and false accusations.

Prove to me and the world that I am a "Jew"

and why you think that is an insult

which of the seven points I orginally posted do you agree with that makes you all defensive?

exchanges like this are why i try to warn against anti semitism and conspiracy theories...when anyone goes down that rabbit hole they are gone for good...

sometimes they will make valid biblical points against false teachings...but eventually they always end up going off the rails...

anti semitism is a sin and conspiracy theories are false doctrines...and they are both pretty self destructive too...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Thanks, Anandah. I like to stick to the books that Jesus and the apostles certified by quoting them or mentioning them. Luke 24:44 "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." Jesus certified the writings of Moses and the prophets and the book of psalms.

when jesus says 'the psalms' he is probably referring to more than just the 150 psalms of the book of psalms...

all forms of ancient hebrew poetry could be considered 'psalms'...so jesus' reference probably includes all the poetic literature of the old testament...psalms and proverbs and ecclesiastes and the song of songs and lamentations...

 

[Bloodwashed]

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God. A man. [ This is a Quote from shroom ]
I don't have a problem with this statement. As a man, The Lord Jesus Christ, was the Son of God, born into Adams family. Right?
Do you believe He preexsisted with The Father prior to His incarnation as Mary's child? Blessings Mark!

 

[shroom2]

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God. A man. [ This is a Quote from shroom ]
I don't have a problem with this statement. As a man, The Lord Jesus Christ, was the Son of God, born into Adams family. Right?
Do you believe He preexsisted with The Father prior to His incarnation as Mary's child? Blessings Mark!

Hi, BW,
No, I do not. He was not "incarnated". "Incarnation" is not a biblical term, it is a religious term. Christ was born like every other man. I believe the bible teaches that Jesus Christ was, and still is, a 100% human being fathered by God. The difference between him and any other man is that God is his father, which means he was not born with a sin nature like every other man. Adam did not have sin in his blood either, until he sinned. Jesus Christ is the second Adam. (see Romans 5) The first Adam chose to sin and blew it for everyone. The second Adam chose to obey, and is fixing everything (for those who believe on him).

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

jesus is 100% human and 100% God

 

[shroom2]

jesus is 100% human and 100% God

That, Rachel, is impossible.

Nothing can be 100% one thing and 100% another. For that matter, nothing can be 100% one thing and 1% another.

Jesus is 100% human, the only begotten Son of God.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

No Jesus was not a Jew he was from Galilee.

jesus was jewish...the gospels of matthew and luke clearly document his jewish lineage...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

That, Rachel, is impossible.

Nothing can be 100% one thing and 100% another. For that matter, nothing can be 100% one thing and 1% another.

Jesus is 100% human, the only begotten Son of God.

"With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

 

[shroom2]

"With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

God cannot contradict His Word, and His word does not say "jesus is 100% human and 100% God". It DOES say:
1 Cor 8:6) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

1 Tim 2:5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Rom 5:15) But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

 

[systemdown101]

jesus was jewish...the gospels of matthew and luke clearly document his jewish lineage...

I'm on my cell right now so I can't fully document this but when I get home i'll post the Biblical proofs of that. It'll be awesome.

 

[Bloodwashed]

shroom2, Just wondering if you stand alone in this view of Jesus Christ, or are you with a group of people who hold this doctrine? If so, what group would that be? I am Trinitarian, but I do have a few friends who hold views closer to yours. They are not part of any group, but one use to be with The Way International. I'm just curious, I'm not here to bite anyones head off! Blessings Mark!

 

[tribesman]

...Jesus is 100% human, the only begotten Son of God.

Denying that God determines who will be saved seems not a far cry from also denying the deity of Christ.

Whatever is behind that I think it's not angelic tongues who spawned these notions.

John.1

[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

1Tim.3

[16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

 

[shroom2]

shroom2, Just wondering if you stand alone in this view of Jesus Christ, or are you with a group of people who hold this doctrine? If so, what group would that be? I am Trinitarian, but I do have a few friends who hold views closer to yours. They are not part of any group, but one use to be with The Way International. I'm just curious, I'm not here to bite anyones head off! Blessings Mark!

I have a group of people I fellowship with. Non-denominational. I used to be involved with TWI, but left 25 years ago before things fell apart. I believe

Truth Or Tradition,
The Living Truth Fellowship, and
BiblicalUnitarian.com | A website about God and His son, Jesus Christ

are teaching truth.

Thanks for not biting my head off. I have a feeling others will.

God bless.

 

[shroom2]

Denying that God determines who will be saved seems not a far cry from also denying the deity of Christ.

God wants all men to be saved, and made salvation available through Christ to anyone who will choose to believe. Man has free will, even concerning his own salvation. I'm sorry you cannot see that.

Whatever is behind that I think it's not angelic tongues who spawned these notions.

Respectfully, you don't know the first thing about tongues.