RED HEIFER CALF BORN LAST WEEK IN ISRAEL!!

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Shamah

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The Jews claim to have every piece representing the TEMPLE already made. They claim they can have it assembled within 2 weeks time. So, if they do follow their scripture and sacrifice this RED HEIFER to rebuild their TEMPLE...that means the scene is being set for the antichrist and the rapture.

And if we use the time given:
1. 90 days if Red Heifer is spotless without blemish it will be sacrificed
2. The decision to rebuild the TEMPLE will be made.
3. Within 2 weeks time the TEMPLE can be assembled and daily sacrifices can take place again.

That basically puts us around January-February till the TEMPLE is in use.

And that opens the door for the antichrist!!
OK I got you, yeah this could be possible as far as them rebuilding a temple... I was unsure what you were saying before.
 

rlm68

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Yes I know it is not in the Law or prophets...

Amos 3:6-8, “If a trumpet is blown in a city, do the people not tremble? If there is calamity in a city, shall not יהוה have done it? For the Master יהוה does no matter unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets. A lion has roared! Who is not afraid? The Master יהוה has spoken! Who would not prophesy?”

With that said this may indeed be a catalyst that does lead to a temple being rebuilt in Jerusalem. However since none of YHWH’s prophets have spoken in this matter saying it is the righteous will and work of YHWH, it is not a part of His side of the plan. Also there is no need for nor any 3rd temple that would be acceptable to YHWH, as the next true and acceptable temple will be “YHWH Shammah” or the Kingdom of YHWH…


I completely agree!!

But Revelation chapter 12 is about the TEMPLE, people of Israel, the antichrist as their Messiah until he offers unholy sacrifice, then war is made and 2/3 die while 1/3 escape to Petra.

So, even if this has no significance to our understanding, the TEMPLE has to be rebuilt to fulfill Revelation chapter 12. And that is the plan of God since He revealed it unto John.

And the TEMPLE rebuilt does lead to the antichrist, which leads to the SECOND COMING of Christ!!

So, it could be God's plan if we see it, understand it, or not...
 

Shamah

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I completely agree!!

But Revelation chapter 12 is about the TEMPLE, people of Israel, the antichrist as their Messiah until he offers unholy sacrifice, then war is made and 2/3 die while 1/3 escape to Petra.

So, even if this has no significance to our understanding, the TEMPLE has to be rebuilt to fulfill Revelation chapter 12. And that is the plan of God since He revealed it unto John.

And the TEMPLE rebuilt does lead to the antichrist, which leads to the SECOND COMING of Christ!!

So, it could be God's plan if we see it, understand it, or not...
I didn't mean it had zero signifacance just none from the righteous plan of YHWH. Also just because they build it does not mean the anti-messiah will instantly appear...

Odd thing is many say this already happened, howeever if it did already happen then the Messiah would be ruling right now on earth.... This doctrine that it already happened is made so the "vicar of christ" (false prophet) can act like he is the messiah...

Matthew 24:15, “So when you see the ’abomination that lays waste,’ spoken of by Dani’ĕl the prophet, set up in the set-apart place” – he who reads, let him understand.”

Daniel 11:30-32, “For ships from Kittim shall come against him, and he shall lose heart, and shall return in rage against the set-apart covenant, and shall act, and shall return and consider those who forsake the set-apart covenant. And strong ones shall arise from him and profane the set-apart place, the stronghold, and shall take away that which is continual, and set up the abomination that lays waste. And by flattering he shall profane those who do wrong against the covenant, but the people who know their Mighty One shall be strong, and shall act.”

Daniel 8:13-14, “Then I heard a certain set-apart one speaking. And another set-apart one said to that certain one who was speaking, “Till when is the vision, concerning that which is continual, and the transgression that lays waste, to make both the set-apart place and the host to be trampled under foot?” And he said to me, “For two thousand three hundred nights, then that which is set-apart shall be made right.”

Daniel 9:24-27, “Seventy weeks are decreed for your people and for your set-apart city, to put an end to the transgression, and to seal up sins, and to cover crookedness, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and prophet, and to anoint the Most Set-apart. Know, then, and understand: from the going forth of the command to restore and build Yerushalayim until Messiah the Prince is seven weeks and sixty-two weeks. It shall be built again, with streets and a trench, but in times of affliction. And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off and have naught. And the people of a coming prince shall destroy the city and the set-apart place. And the end of it is with a flood. And wastes are decreed, and fighting until the end. And he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week. And in the middle of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and meal offering. And on the wing of abominations he shall lay waste, even until the complete end and that which is decreed is poured out on the one who lays waste.”

Matthew 24:15, “So when you see the ’abomination that lays waste,’ spoken of by Dani’ĕl the prophet, set up in the set-apart place” – he who reads, let him understand.”
 

rlm68

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I didn't mean it had zero signifacance just none from the righteous plan of YHWH. Also just because they build it does not mean the anti-messiah will instantly appear...

Odd thing is many say this already happened, howeever if it did already happen then the Messiah would be ruling right now on earth.... This doctrine that it already happened is made so the "vicar of christ" (false prophet) can act like he is the messiah...

Matthew 24:15, “So when you see the ’abomination that lays waste,’ spoken of by Dani’ĕl the prophet, set up in the set-apart place” – he who reads, let him understand.”

Daniel 11:30-32, “For ships from Kittim shall come against him, and he shall lose heart, and shall return in rage against the set-apart covenant, and shall act, and shall return and consider those who forsake the set-apart covenant. And strong ones shall arise from him and profane the set-apart place, the stronghold, and shall take away that which is continual, and set up the abomination that lays waste. And by flattering he shall profane those who do wrong against the covenant, but the people who know their Mighty One shall be strong, and shall act.”

Daniel 8:13-14, “Then I heard a certain set-apart one speaking. And another set-apart one said to that certain one who was speaking, “Till when is the vision, concerning that which is continual, and the transgression that lays waste, to make both the set-apart place and the host to be trampled under foot?” And he said to me, “For two thousand three hundred nights, then that which is set-apart shall be made right.”

Daniel 9:24-27, “Seventy weeks are decreed for your people and for your set-apart city, to put an end to the transgression, and to seal up sins, and to cover crookedness, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and prophet, and to anoint the Most Set-apart. Know, then, and understand: from the going forth of the command to restore and build Yerushalayim until Messiah the Prince is seven weeks and sixty-two weeks. It shall be built again, with streets and a trench, but in times of affliction. And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off and have naught. And the people of a coming prince shall destroy the city and the set-apart place. And the end of it is with a flood. And wastes are decreed, and fighting until the end. And he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week. And in the middle of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and meal offering. And on the wing of abominations he shall lay waste, even until the complete end and that which is decreed is poured out on the one who lays waste.”

Matthew 24:15, “So when you see the ’abomination that lays waste,’ spoken of by Dani’ĕl the prophet, set up in the set-apart place” – he who reads, let him understand.”


And once again, I completely agree!!

But, having the TEMPLE rebuilt and in place with daily sacrifice does set the scene for when the antichrist does make his appearance. And, the Second Coming of Christ is on the same cusp as when the antichrist is becoming ruler of this world. So, this fulfillment opens many doors to fulfill several prophesies like the antichrist, Second Coming, and Revelation chapter 12 being fulfilled.
 

Angela53510

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I don’t know if I should deign to address this hermeneutical nightmare, and completely inaccurate eschatology, so I’ll dispense with most of the Scriptures, and just post a few that are relevant.

1. No rapture! And harpazio in 1 Thess 4:17 doesn’t count.

2. What was the point of sacrifices in the OT? It was to appease God for the sin of the people. (It could have also been a thank offering or other offerings.)

“For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. 2 Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins? 3 But in these sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.” Hebrews 10:1-4

So, in fact, goats, bulls, and by extension red heifers do NOT take away sins.

“And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.” Hebrews 10:11-14

So, Christ came, the once for all offering. No need for any temples or sacrifices. Especially a third temple, based on Ezekiel, that was never built because of the unrighteousness of the Jews. That prophecy was never fulfilled. The Jews are a lost people who rejected Christ. They can hear the gospel and be saved, for sure!

But nothing they do will ever affect the message of salvation or the timing of Christ’s return.

Read the book of Hebrews, in the NT, instead of speculating on internet nonsense from Ezekiel, one of the most difficult books in the Bible.
 

posthuman

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JaumeJ

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The Israel of God is all who believe, no red heifer, no Israel peopled by Judaic Denominations, it is inhabited in God. PS, in all fairness, no denominations period.
 

posthuman

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It actually does not connect to anything we claim to be scriptural. But today's Jews have it written within their Torah and will use it to rebuild their TEMPLE.
nothing in Numbers 19 looks to me to indicate that this is either used for building a temple nor necessary for one. the ashes were used to purify anyone who touched a dead human body. how many dead human bodies do you have to touch to build a temple?

seems to me, when Israel unilaterally takes over the temple mount and starts demolition of the dome of the rock, that's when they are about to build a temple. not when someone has a cow.
 

JaumeJ

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I do not understand this periodic fuss over a red heifer being born. God to US ranches that raise cattle, and there are many red heifers.......If this be so in the US it would be the same anywhere where cattle are bred..
 

Hevosmies

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The Jews claim to have every piece representing the TEMPLE already made. They claim they can have it assembled within 2 weeks time. So, if they do follow their scripture and sacrifice this RED HEIFER to rebuild their TEMPLE...that means the scene is being set for the antichrist and the rapture.

And if we use the time given:
1. 90 days if Red Heifer is spotless without blemish it will be sacrificed
2. The decision to rebuild the TEMPLE will be made.
3. Within 2 weeks time the TEMPLE can be assembled and daily sacrifices can take place again.

That basically puts us around January-February till the TEMPLE is in use.

And that opens the door for the antichrist!!
Oh I see. Another false prophecy and fake prediction. Will you apologize for this false prediction once it does not play out? It amazes me how many times you guys are proven wrong and you just keep it moving and make up another fake prediction, we will probably see this nonsense until the end of time.
 

Noblemen

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The Jews claim to have every piece representing the TEMPLE already made. They claim they can have it assembled within 2 weeks time. So, if they do follow their scripture and sacrifice this RED HEIFER to rebuild their TEMPLE...that means the scene is being set for the antichrist and the rapture.

And if we use the time given:
1. 90 days if Red Heifer is spotless without blemish it will be sacrificed
2. The decision to rebuild the TEMPLE will be made.
3. Within 2 weeks time the TEMPLE can be assembled and daily sacrifices can take place again.

That basically puts us around January-February till the TEMPLE is in use.

And that opens the door for the antichrist!!
You understand that means nothing in this age correct. The jews are saved in this age just like any other race of people, by the cross. It doesn't matter what they believe or any other race believes in their religion, salvation is the same for all groups
 

Hevosmies

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Well, it does appear most of you follow the bastardized KJV Bible (which is 5th hand translation and hearsay knowledge) vs the actual Hebrew scripture the Jews follow. For the most part, even the New Testament has been proven to be bastardized by the RCC including changing Matthew 28:19 from in JESUS NAME to the unholy trinity [Peter and Paul baptized in Jesus NAME in the Book of Acts and they represent the first church example and the TRUTH by which we should follow]...plus add ins like the Lazarus/rich man in a hell story [which is absolutely false since Christ and the Jews never believed in a literal hell for sinners]...to many other nonsense's throughout the New Testament.

So, it would be hard pressed to assume anyone of you would accept this prophecy written in the Jewish Torah.

It is what it is and you believe the bastardized version because you have no sense of what the TRUTH should be!!
Okay now your false predictions make more sense. You dont even believe the Bible.
Pray tell, how come the RCC didnt change the name of Jesus from the book of Acts to the trinity formula, like they did in matthew 28:19 supposedly? Sloppy work from those catholics!

The facts are:

- You are making a false claim about New Testament been proven to be "bastardized", provide no evidence because there is none.
- ALL the manuscripts we have include the story of Rich man and Lazarus and the trinitarian baptismal formula in Matthew 28:19
- Jews in the first century DID believe in hell, including the Pharisees, you are yet again proving your ignorance on the subject
 

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SOMETHING INCREDIBLE HAS HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST WEEK!!

ANYONE WHO IS FOLLOWING SCRIPTURE AND PREPARING FOR THE END OF TIME SHOULD KNOW WHAT AMAZING PROPHECY THAT HAS JUST OCCURED.

READ THE ((ENTIRE)) BOOK OF NUMBERS CHAPTER 19 TO GET MORE EDUCATED!!

BUT, JUST LAST WEEK IN ISRAEL A PURE RED HEIFER CALF WAS BORN. THE JEWISH HIGH PRIEST AND THE REST OF THE RABBIS HAVE ALREADY EXAMINED IT. IT IS COMPLETELY RED WITHOUT SPOT OR BLEMISH. THE NEXT STEP IS WAITING 3 MONTHS AND THEN RECHECKING THE CALF TO SEE IF IT IS STILL 100% RED OR SOMETHING HAS CHANGED.
IF
IF
IF
NOTHING HAS CHANGED, THEY WILL TAKE THIS CALF AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS WRITTEN WITHIN CHAPTER 19 OF THE BOOK OF NUMBERS AND SACRIFICE IT UNTO YAHWEH!!
ACCORDING TO OUR BIBLE AND PROPHECY ALONG WITH JEWISH BIBLICAL PROPHECY, THE RED HEIFER CALF REPRESENTS THE END OF TIMES.
THE SACRIFICE WILL INITIATE ISRAEL TO RESUME BUILDING THEIR TEMPLE.
THE ENTIRE NATION OF ISRAEL IS ON HIGH ALERT EXPECTING THE COMING MESSIAH NOW AT ANY MOMENT DUE TO THIS CALF.
THIS IS PROPHECY!!
THIS IS SIGNIFICANT!!
THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN LIFE!!
THIS IS A ((SIGN)) FROM GOD!!
THIS TRULY REVEALS WE ARE IN THE VERY LAST DAYS!!
THIS IS A WARNING FROM GOD TO ALL OF US CONCERNING OUR SALVATION AND PREPAREDNESS TO BE READY FOR HIS RETURN!!
IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD AND LOVE HIM, THIS WILL LITERALLY TICKLE YOU PINK!!
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!
I agree completely with your estimation. The pure red heifer is of critical importance pertaining to Israel and end-time events. The temple has to be built on the current site of the Muslim mosque but that problem can readily be resolved with a few pieces of heavy equipment to clear the site. With modern construction techniques and materials the temple could easily be built in less than a year.
 

Grandpa

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I agree completely with your estimation. The pure red heifer is of critical importance pertaining to Israel and end-time events. The temple has to be built on the current site of the Muslim mosque but that problem can readily be resolved with a few pieces of heavy equipment to clear the site. With modern construction techniques and materials the temple could easily be built in less than a year.
I think the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ would atone for that sin, too.

But I definitely wouldn't push it that far...

On the one hand I would like to see everything that is Anti-Christ be swept away.

On the other hand I wonder, would anything or anyone be left?

Thank God for Jesus!
 

posthuman

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I agree completely with your estimation. The pure red heifer is of critical importance pertaining to Israel and end-time events. The temple has to be built on the current site of the Muslim mosque but that problem can readily be resolved with a few pieces of heavy equipment to clear the site. With modern construction techniques and materials the temple could easily be built in less than a year.
seeing as red heifers have been reported as having even found every few years for the last two decades, it doesn't seem like the thing that's preventing anyone from rebuilding the temple is lack of the proper cow. in that respect i don't agree with OP's estimation.
 

Locutus

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I think the whole premise is heifalutin.

Are they still considered part of the red meat food group?

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tourist

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seeing as red heifers have been reported as having even found every few years for the last two decades, it doesn't seem like the thing that's preventing anyone from rebuilding the temple is lack of the proper cow. in that respect i don't agree with OP's estimation.
I don't doubt the veracity of you estimation if it is indeed true that pure red heifers are a relatively common occurrence then the temple could be rebuilt at any time. Based on what I have read the temple must be built on the exact spot that the Muslim mosque is sitting on. I suppose it is just a matter for Israel to secure that spot before proceeding with construction. Perhaps the Israeli government wants to avoid a full-blown Mideast war for the time being so the temple plans are on an indefinite hold. I will reassess my estimation but now leaning towards your perception on this end-time event.